Effects of Male Masturbation on Attracting Women

by Matt Savage

It’s been four days of abstaining from masturbation and I feel like I’m going to explode. The first day is always the hardest, days two and three usually aren’t bad, but once you get to day four the buildup of sexual tension begins to bear down so much that the slightest breeze is cause enough for an erection. Why put myself through this torture? Simple, to understand the effects that male masturbation has on his ability to attract women.

It’s a self experiment, let me explain. There is an idea floating around that basically says that if a man abstains from ejaculating he will be more likely to pursue and attract females. There are a few different thoughts on why people might believe this, ranging from fluctuating testosterone levels to general horniness. Lets explore further, shall we.

Personal Masturbation Experiment

During the last year, I’ve been attempting to go on and off in my personal masturbation habits. Some weeks, I try to abstain from wanking and some weeks I treat my body like my own personal amusement park. Obviously, abstaining from masturbation is the more difficult of the two tasks, however, with a little will power I managed to pull off a week of no ejaculating here and there, enough to make some general observations about my behavior as it relates to the dating world.

The first noticeable observation when abstaining from masturbation was that I was definitely more horny. No big surprise there. However, I believe that having that feeling of pent up sexual tension helped me to approach and talk to more women, as well as be more sexual around them. For instance, as opposed to approaching and having a casual friendly conversation, I was likely to use more sexual innuendos and be more direct about my intentions.

The second big observation from abstinence was my level of motivation. Not just motivation to go out and meet women, but my motivation to do other productive things in life, like exercising or writing for example. This was the complete opposite of weeks where I masturbated on a frequent basis. I’d just sit around the house all day watching TV, surfing the web and…uhh masturbating.

Effects of Ejaculation on Testosterone and Sexual Activity

What is testosterone?

a potent androgenic hormone produced chiefly by the testes; responsible for the development of male secondary sex characteristics

Essentially, testosterone is what helps make a man a man. It’s responsible for developing muscle and overall body fitness, not an unusual trait in an alpha male. Also, it helps to charge the male libido and sex drive.

So what’s testosterone have to do with masturbation?  Testosterone is produced in the testicles and when you ejaculate you are releasing or using up some of that testosterone. This is fine when you are having intercourse with your desired partner, that is the whole point after all, but not fine when a chronic masturbation habit is leaving you drained of testosterone and limiting you from your true sexual potential.

In 2003, there was a research study done on the testosterone levels in males during certain periods of abstaining from ejaculation. It found that there was a gradual increase in testosterone levels during the first five days but on days six and seven there was a huge spike, up to a 147% increase in testosterone on day seven. After day seven, testosterone levels returned to normal, thus indicating that seven days is the effective number of days to abstain from ejaculating in order to hit peak levels of testosterone.

Male Masturbation and Testosterone Levels

In another paper published in the Scandinavian Journal of Psychology, a group of male rats was studied during post-ejaculation and sexual exhaustion phases. One of their findings was that, after 4 days, only 63% of the males were able to show sexual behavior while after 7 days all males were getting it on in a giant rodent orgy. Again, this indicating that seven days is the optimal time between male ejaculation periods.

From my personal experience, I’ve noticed that usually between days five and seven of abstinence, are also the days when I’m able to get more make-outs or bring women home, usually as a result of being more motivated to sexually escalate those interactions.

The Loaded Gun Hypothesis

If you’ve ever watched the movie, “Something About Mary”, you may remember the following infamous scene:

The Loaded Gun Hypothesis states that by masturbating before going out to meet women will leave you calm and relaxed as opposed to nervous. Supposedly, this calm and relaxed state will keep you from doing something stupid and hence aid in the attraction process.

In my opinion, this is the wrong way to look at this. You want to have a loaded gun! You are an alpha male, you are a hunter in search of your prey. The nervousness only comes from the stereotypical Ben Stiller character and not the extra baby batter. If anything, the pent up sexual demand seems like it would make you more confident and motivated in your female interactions.

The Seinfeld Abstinence Hypothesis

In one episode of Seinfeld, George quits having sex because his girlfriend has mono. This now lack of sex causes George to become motivated to learn and turns into a genius. The idea being that without the distraction of sex on a man’s brain, he’s able to focus his thoughts on other more productive pursuits.

I think this hypothesis only has it half right. I don’t agree that abstinence will relieve the distraction of sex, but will actually amplify it, at least in the short term. As someone who has gone for more than seven days without ejaculating, I know that it’s almost impossible not to think about sex. However, despite that sex will likely always be a distraction for any red blooded male, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t an underlying psychological self improvement motivation factor involved in abstinence. I’ll talk more about this next.

Effects of Ejaculation on Dopamine Levels

What is dopamine?

a monoamine neurotransmitter found in the brain and essential for the normal functioning of the central nervous system

Dopamine has many functions in the brain, including important roles in behavior and cognition, motor activity, motivation and reward, inhibition ofprolactin production, sleep, mood, attention, and learning.

Essentially dopamine, manufactured in the brain, has a whole bunch roles in how our nervous system works. It’s also particularly important in orgasms. When we ejaculate our brain releases a bunch of dopamine acting like a euphoric drug producing an orgasm. However, as the above definition states it also effects the function of other areas of the nervous system which are vital to our daily living like sleep, mood, learning, motivation etc.

Dopamine as stated above, is used by our bodies as a reward mechanism. For instance, when we eat something that tastes good, our brain rewards us by releasing a small amount of dopamine, thus helping to create and reinforce behavior which the body believes is good for you. The same is true of sex, as human beings we are hard wired to procreate. And the only way to procreate is to pursue sex with the opposite gender, which we will be rewarded by a huge release of dopamine (an orgasm) when successful.

It’s also important to note that when dopamine levels are low and depleted, it will have an adverse effect on other areas of the central nervous system which rely on dopamine to function properly. For example, in one study published in the American Journal of Psychology, it showed the effects of male volunteers who had their dopamine levels deliberately depleted over a 42 hour period of time. During that 42 hours, the normally healthy social males experienced negative symptoms like obsessive-compulsiveness, thought disorders, social anxiety and depression.

So, one could say that too much ejaculation, to the point of depleting your dopamine levels on a regular basis, is going to have an adverse effect on your daily lifestyle.

Savage Hypothesis of Behavioral Ejaculation Reinforcement

If a man is motivated and pursues the act of becoming an alpha male, he will attract desirable females. This eventually leads to sexual intercourse with those desirable females and is rewarded with orgasms. This reward reinforces the alpha male behavior that was needed to attract a desirable female in the first place, prompting the male to continue the traits that helped him become alpha, thus perpetuating the cycle and continuing the supply of desirable mates.

If a man is lazy, unmotivated and relies on masturbation as his main form of sexual activity, he is unnaturally creating a false reward for traits that are undesirable in potential female mates. This false reward tricks the body into thinking that it is pursuing alpha male qualities when in reality it is pursuing beta male qualities. This cycle also perpetuates itself by continually being satisfied with the act of masturbation rather than the pursuit of desirable females.

Conclusions on Male Masturbation

If you are still with me, you probably might think I am completely against male masturbation, but I’m not. For one, this is a very debatable topic and I’m sure many readers will offer up evidence supporting masturbation as perfectly natural and acceptable, and please by all means add to this conversation, as I am very much in pursuit of truth like any one else.

For now though, I’m sticking to my hypothesis that regular masturbation on a daily basis will have an adverse effect on my ability to attract women.  So, I’m personally sticking to the “7 day cycle.” The concept is that I abstain from masturbating and if I haven’t had sexual intercourse within seven days, then I’m allowed to masturbate and relieve myself. This allows for the testosterone and sexual motivation to increase throughout the week and hopefully peak around the weekend when I’m more likely to be out on the prowl.

Has anyone else experimented or noticed any personal changes when abstaining from masturbation for a long period of time?  Any other thoughts, opinions, criticisms, verbal lashings?  Leave ‘em below in the comments.  And if nothing else, please think of the kittens:)

Update May 1st, 2009 – I have written a follow-up to this post here: Misconceptions of Male Abstinence and Ejaculation Hypothesis

Update April 22nd, 2012 – Here’s a great Ted Talk by Gary Wilson who runs the very informative Your Brain on Porn blog. I highly recommend watching it as it gives a better overview of the problems with porn addiction better than I have.

{ 938 comments }

Dan | Ask Dan and Jennifer February 4, 2009 at 12:28 pm

Nice! But man, a whole week, seriously? Dude…

A friend of ours went to a spiritual retreat in India a year ago and was telling us about it… and he said there were no phones, no email, and no sex allowed. Then he turns to me and me and says… ” and no masturbation either!” Darn it. He and Jennifer both agree I’d get booted pretty fast. ;-)

I just want to add this… for all the guys masturbating without lubricant, do yourself a giant favor and get some lube. seriousl, you’ll be glad you did.

If you’re not sure what lubes are for or which to go with, check out our recent video on this: The Lube Review (What Everyone Ought to Know About Sexual Lubricants).

Have an awesome day!
– Dan

Infinity February 4, 2009 at 12:46 pm

Masturbation is a natural thing yes. Just like, releasing stress through other activities, this is just as comparable. Although, I do agree with the fact that the more you masturbate, the more you become complacent.

That in turn will lead to being naturally less attractive. If you hold out, like Savage is saying, it will increase your motivation, and (reading this somewhere) will release more pheromones on your body when you go out and meet women – and women will instinctively pick this up.

I say the odds are in your favor when you masturbate less. But in the end, if it doesn’t work out for you that weekend or night, you should release yourself and try it again.

Eventually, it’ll become a cycle and it won’t hinder your general lifestyle. I’m hoping all of this made some sense…

Dan | Ask Dan and Jennifer February 4, 2009 at 12:49 pm

A side note here… If you want to attract women, you have to believe down to your core that you’ve got something worth buying so to speak – you have to accept yourself and nurture – and radiate – a true inner confidence.

THAT is absolutely magnetic. Any good salesman will tell you that you can’t sell something you don’t believe in, at least not well.

And be aware of how you make people feel, that’s what they remember most about you, how they felt at the time. If they’re happy, laugh, and have a great time, guess who’s going on a second date. :-)

– Dan

Dream February 4, 2009 at 5:02 pm

About 2 years ago I wasn’t getting laid. I had lost my virginity a year prior, so I had the taste, but couldnt close the deal in the new enviroment (college).

I went over 3 months, yes 3 months, without busting a nut (I had maybe 3 or 4 make outs during that time, nothing beyond that with women).

After the first week, I was more motivated to go out, and did so accordingly. After the first 3 weeks, motivation amped up even higher, including in the gym.

After about 5 weeks…well it was all downhill from there.

That motivation turned to eagerness, and in turn I became nervous and jerky (and walked around with a woody every time I saw a hot chick).

So ya, a short story I thought Id share! (note-began getting laid about 3 months after this little abstinence).

-Dream

Chuck February 5, 2009 at 12:30 pm

Some boxers try to abstain from sex or masterbation in the months and weeks leading up to their fights. This increases testosterone and pisses them off b/c they aren’t getting any pussy.

Athletes have long tried to abstain from sexual activities before games perhaps because of the dopamine levels.

There was another episode of Seinfeld, or perhaps the same one, where Elaine was dating a musician. She witheld sex from him for a while, and when she finally gave in he started sucking it up on stage.

Matt Savage February 9, 2009 at 2:11 pm

@ Dan,
Yea dude, 7 days is tough, but I think once you get used to it, it’s not soo bad. I don’t know what you have to worry about, don’t you have the lovely Jennifer to take care of your needs:)

@ Infinity,
I do think it’s a natural instinct to masturbate, but doing so on such a frequent basis, as in once or twice a day doesn’t seem natural to me especially if one is masturbating to porn or other such visuals that lets say a caveman wouldn’t have had access to.

@ Dream,
Wow, three months is crazy! It’s interesting to note that you said after 5 weeks it all went downhill. I suspect that there is definitely some sort of interval period where a guy just has to ejaculate.

@ Chuck,
Yes, this is another topic that has been widely debated specifically by top end athletes. I know that Mohamed Ali used to abstain from any kind of sex or masturbation for a month before any of his fights.

I believe the Seinfeld you are talking about was the same episode, but it was an unlicensed doctor who she withheld sex until he passed to doctor exam. As a result she had the opposite symptoms as George, becoming really stupid because the bags of trash were piling up in her head.

know1 February 9, 2009 at 8:37 pm

I can say that I do not have too much trouble not masterbating. There have been periods where I have gone longer that 7 days, mainly because my mind is focused on other things.

Although I do wonder if having an hot girlfriend makes me calmer and looking for the next day to unload.

Boradio February 10, 2009 at 11:20 am

This site has a number of articles that describe the so-called “neurochemical hangover” after orgasm, and the interplay between dopamine and prolactin, a hormone related to feelings of stress and irritability, and the likely culprit behind post-coital male laziness and female bitchiness.

These guys quote a hangover period of two weeks for recovering addicts, which I guess are guys who want to swear off orgasm forever… (?) This is apparently how long it takes for prolactin levels to return to normal. After that, the authors of the site recommend something called karezza, which seems to be a technique for delaying orgasm, wrapped in a bunch of new-age and Hindu spirituality jargon.

I’ve personally found that my most “on” nights in recent memory have occurred after between 7 and 10 days of will-powered abstinence. It’s a tough hill to climb, but the view from the top and the subsequent tumble down are pretty awesome.

Sinn February 15, 2009 at 12:03 pm

Hey man,

Interesting theory, it may be that I have much higher levels of testosterone than most guys, but I’ve tried the abstain from jerking thing for about a month at a time and saw REALLY bad results similar to what Dream experienced, I was so nervous around girls, and horny it was EXTREMELY physically uncomfortable.

There’s also a decent amount of medical literature that suggest daily ejaculation protects the prostate from cancer.

My 2C.

Good to see some real research into something most guys just blindly follow.

Best,

S

Jsquared February 16, 2009 at 4:14 am

If I am understanding this correctly you lose your built of testosterone when you ejaculate. With that being said, men don’t have to actually ejaculate to orgasm; you could masturbate without actually “blowing a load”.

I remembered back to the concept of being a male and stacking orgasms. A friend of mine not to long ago showed me a book that he had found about being better in bed (I can’t remember the title of the book to save my life). One of the sections was about increasing stamina and being able to have multiple orgasms. The basis of the technique is to be able to reach climax and then halt your bodily reaction by flexing your PC muscle.

The PC muscle is a thin strip of muscle in your falice. The muscle is used to push the flow of sperm through and out. A secondary use of this muscle (which the technique is derived from) is when you stop yourself from peeing. For instance, you have a great urge to pee but you aren’t by a bathroom and you flex your lower torso and you feel constriction on your penis. You are flexing you PC muscle and stopping the flow of urine. The entire technique is based off the flexing of the PC muscle. The process was you use is based off a scale of pleasure from 1-5 (now these stages are general feelings that you decide for yourself). I vaguely remember the steps but they were as follow:

1. Erection
2. Begining of sex/masturbation
3. Starting to feel pleasure.
4. Mid-range pleasure.
5. Climax

This technique takes practice to “perfect” so you are recommended to start at a lower level to strengthen your PC muscle. The recommended starting point of the technique is Stage 3. Once you achieve stage 3 you are supposed to flex your PC muscle. Now this can be achieved by either by flexing your muscle as you were to stop yourself from peeing or to firmly grasp for penis under the head and squeeze. If you do the latter of the two practices you will need to add enough pressure that you experience a receding feeling. After doing this you may be less erect and will need to work it back up. Now you repeat this process a few times and then move on and do it at stage 4 a few times. After you get a hang of slowing the flood flow and build up you procede to the final phase. You continue sex/masturbation until you are almost at the tip of climax and then repeat the step above. If done properly you will actually have a slight orgasm. You may excrete a small amount of semen, but you will not completely ejaculate. After this is done you can procede to have sex for theoretically as long as you want, because it will take a fair amount of work for your body to build up another ejaculation.

This technique given, I believe it would be possible to masturbate and not lose your testoterone because you aren’t fully ejaculating. If everytime you masturbated you did this you should retain your testoterone. If that is the case its a win-win situation, you can still masturbate have an orgasm and keep your manly chemicals.

Atilla The Nun February 20, 2009 at 9:29 am

Great article. What I think deserves kudos is the attention to personal, empirical observations. I’ll throw a few of mine own personal observations out there just to add to the discussion:
- After abstaining from 4-5 days, I’m definitely hornier and feel greater incentive to go out and meet girls
- Like someone else mentioned, I think I perform less well around girls when having abstained (Loaded Gun Theory) because I’m much more anxious. The lack of masturbation makes me want to go out, but I lose my social finesse; if I whack it before a first date, I’m MUCH calmer and things always go smoothly. (And I wait until Date #2 to physically assert myself with the girl anyway.)
— Although a lack of masturbation causes me to do worse around women when I’m out, a higher frequency of real sex causes me to do much better; there is an added element of confidence that is missing from the former and present with the latter
— To further my point, there must be a further physical difference between masturbation and real sex. My own observation is that after masturbation I feel tired and empty; after real sex I feel tired and emotionally very happy. Obviously some chemical is causing this difference
- Masturbation, esp daily, leaves me feel tired, washed out, and unmotivated. Though it’s fun at the moment, I lose both my productive momentum and my initiative to pursue other pastimes. I think, if I remember right, there was a chapter on this phenomenon in “Think and Grow Rich.” During periods of abstinence, I feel a drive and creativity that, when applied to a project or pursuit, leads to both a sense of accomplishment and real accomplishment
- Too much internet porn over time has actually become boring to me. There is so much pussy on the tube that I literally started getting bored looking at pretty, naked girls – this alarming fact is what ultimately led me to try to reduce my masturbation frequency
- Also alarming is that it seems over a long period of time, I sort of psychologically duped myself into pursuing less attractive girls in the real world because I knew I could see hot girls on the net
- After 5 or so days of abstaining, I noticed that sex became less important to me (seemingly following the 7 day graph above). After about 5 days, I felt almost asexual

The Notorious T. O Double D! February 23, 2009 at 6:05 pm

Actually, the more I do it the more apt I’m am to be horny for more. When I haven’t been laid in a while, it’s not a big deal. But once I get it, gotta have more.

Hammer February 27, 2009 at 4:28 pm

I don’t know if I’ve ever really done your experiment justice, but in my experience with masturbation, I’ve had very different results.

There were a couple of stretches in college where I had temporary long distance situations or I was on campus during a break when most other people weren’t where I was pretty much cooped up in my room all day by myself bored. As a result I had stretches of multiple days in a row where I would crank it literally 5-8 times a day. I found that i would actually become horny more easily after a point, like my testosterone levels were elevated to a sexually aroused state and never really went down, or maybe my body was depleting testosterone too quickly and as a result it started overproducing testosterone. I’ve had similar experiences when I have been in relationships and done like a weekend by ourselves etc. I suppose it could also be due to some kind of addiction biology. Just theories, I obviously wasn’t measuring test levels in the blood, but that was definitely my experience.

Avalona March 11, 2009 at 6:04 am

Fascinating stuff….TMI though ;)

boogie April 5, 2009 at 11:52 am

Whats your opinion on masturbating to porn?

Ive gone under the believe that it creates a mind attachment to the future and keeps you out of your body. So when you hit the field your body is in the future predicting sex and in the past guilty of masturbating all at the site of the beautiful woman(women) simultaneously. Get back to on that.

Plus ive noticed i stopped masturbating for months at a time and my body was insanely silly and powerful and i was so sexual id feel like a sexual chocolate strawberry while in class. But ay thats just me.

dni April 13, 2009 at 5:23 pm

My experience goes according to the diagram of testosterone levels. Without realising it, after I got broadband internet, I developed a porn addiction and I would masturbate daily, or every other day. Once I realised it actually made me feel bad and “drained out” I decided to go on abstinence for as long as I could. The first days were like hell, but after 6-7 days, I stopped having the urge to masturbate and got more energetic with everyday activities.

What was surprising to me was that after the first peak, as the weeks went by, I never felt the strong sexual “urge” to masturbate nor was I really horny. I didn’t even have morning erections and that got me worried. Just before I hit the 2 months mark, I masturbated just to make sure I was still able to do it properly. And it went fine. From then on I kept for the most part a 1 per week schedule which seems to be working the best in terms of relieving me and letting me feel drained out.

Adonis April 22, 2009 at 3:19 pm

I was talking to Ron Jeremy once and had a crazy conversation with him…Anyway, he told me at one point that Peter North would be celibate for an entire month before doing a scene and this is one of the main reasons he is able to do his “epic” money shots…Don’t know if I could ever go a month without sex or jerkin’ it though…Luckily I haven’t really had to do that ;)

Johnny April 23, 2009 at 11:20 pm

This was a fantastic read that I can sincerely relate to.

I have already attempted my own abstinence regiment before reading this, and can honestly say that I am a much more out going guy a few days after my last ejaculation. A man can really feel good about himself if he doesn’t masturbate. Of course, I’m comparing the progress that I have made to what I used to be; which was a chronic masturbating teen.

Ever since I stopped masturbating every day, everything in my life has improved. My confidence, my body, and my overall enjoyment of life has increased ten fold from what it used to be. I still masturbate occasionally, and will try your routine— “The Seven Day Cycle”.

I really liked your article, and will be checking in to see what else you write. :)

sandros May 8, 2009 at 5:15 pm

Great stuff DUDE!
I will try a report back..I remember after awhile i couldnt do it cause my parents house and psycologically drained that I wasnt thinking about it.my verbals and swagger was more calibrated with my interaction…women have radars on their fucking heads

William May 13, 2009 at 8:38 pm

I totally agree with the theories presented at the very top. I had notice some time ago the effects of masturbating and not masturbating, and true as it is on the fourth day it becomes really hard not to masturbate. All those testosteroens are building-up and it must be releases however I have notice in m own body the changes that occur while I abstain from masturbating. I become more active, I exercise more, I also concentrate more and emotionally I feel better although I do go up in flames if I see a hot girl walk by, nonetheless my mood and stamina increase during the days of abstinence.

And I most certainly agree that as my testosterones accumulate so those my desire to sexually interact with the female gender, instead of being neutral and talk about usual daily things I flirt much more and feel more sexually excited meaning my confidence rises and so does the urge to hunt for “prey” lol

Germanico May 14, 2009 at 2:13 am

Funny enough, when you masturbate your testosterone levels go down, but when you have sex, they dont. Theres a study on this, but I couldnt find it to link it here.

Actually, when you are having regular frequent sex, your testosterone goes up.

So how can the body tell the difference between ejaculating during intercourse or doing it to porn?

William May 14, 2009 at 5:08 pm

Germanico, it could be psychological. But then again there could be some mechanism that identifies two type of ejaculation. As I mentioned before, I feel more energetic and my test go up during abstinence but all of this had occured long before I had any knowledge of it, it was until recent that
I had discovered what many others experienced and knew. However in my personal experience having sex and ejaculating result in the same “drainage” only difference is that physical interaction is psychologically more rewarding.

Gone Savage May 17, 2009 at 11:05 pm

In that “take the bullet out of the chamber” movie the guy was giving the protagonist BAD ADVICE because he was also after the same girl.

Yes, it is better to go out with a loaded gun.

And speak to women! Make approaches, accept social risks, escalate, and let her hold that gun. Let her start imagining firing that big loaded gun.

And do not eject without rejection.

Jerking off should be the embarrassing consolation prize that you give yourself after going out and making 100 approaches.

Me May 27, 2009 at 6:39 am

Really a week without masturbating? That’s easy. Longest I’ve been without masturbating was 8 weeks. Yes, 8 weeks! Why you ask? Just to see could I beat my old record of 6 weeks.

Hero July 2, 2009 at 3:47 am

Listen up hunks! Act like a man and start developing self control. you know life without masturbation has much more interesting things to offer. Each and every person masturbates once in his lifetime. This takes place mostly due to peer pressure, stimulation and loss of self control. Discovering masturbation is completely normal and natural, but continuing or practicing it as a habit is totally abnormal and risky. We guys are always interested in girls! this is perfectly natural and cannot be abstained from. but listen up guys, only those boys are preferred by girls who abstain from masturbation. the consequences of masturbation are numerous and benefits are NONE!

Benedict M. Smith July 4, 2009 at 1:15 am

i have to concur that after a couple of days of fighting the urge to jerk off, i am far more direct and willing to make sexual innuendo with the women I meet. I also, however, find myself more willing to eject when logistics and/or her feedback does not seem like SNL noise on my radar.

modest July 7, 2009 at 11:23 am

I have experience. Masturbating is very dangerous. I was masturbating for more than 20 years and i regret it. Now i have health problem ,headach,chronic fatigue,chronic bachach, flu,cough,problem witheyes, memory problems, impotence, …all kind of disorder.

In the beginning you can not notice it. in beginning(one year,two,three,four,five…) at end of the day ,you will regret.
modest

Mark Williams July 10, 2009 at 8:50 am

I keep experimenting with this idea and I find that the advantages of not masturbating outweigh masturbating even though occasionally you can be a little too high energy.

Claude July 10, 2009 at 1:00 pm

For me i want to know one thing .How to stop with this humiliating and bad habit of mastabating? I have mastubated for years , But i assure ,you come to know about the consequenses of the habit when it is too late
Now how to stop? How to stop?
claude

A July 14, 2009 at 4:21 pm

I have a feeling modest and claude are the same person…

Anyway great article dude I’m gonna try this cycle starting… tomorrow :D

Tony July 15, 2009 at 9:39 pm

Is there any difference if your GF jerks you off? I’m either screwing her or shes jerking me off or blowing me on a daily basis. Is the testosterone effect the same?

BFG July 17, 2009 at 6:15 pm

I’m a doctor and although I prefer not to provide such private information on a site such as this for better reasons that to do so still, it seems that its better to explain about this topic once and for all. Have you ever hear of the two sayings one by the church and the other by non veteran doctors that; age of consent for sexual … is 16 years of age for boy and girls and that, masturbation is good for people since blah blah since why its is not important when it is not important to do so at all. The thing is that, the church wants you not love people men and woman too much since if you did you actually is loving god less and this is it all what the Bible (A pointless book with better alternatives for it) is saying about this but christianity is a bad religion to start with. Secondly, if you did obey the age of consent law then the only way to although badly mimic the conditions where you have broken that law is to masturbate. Here is the point though, if you have had done so brocken that particular law then, you will today stand up as a winner living at the top (not lonely at the top since there are woman for you at the top for example) as a natural player who have had the proper one of the keys turned for a person to bring that great inner player inside almost all men which, depend only on how mensa you are.

Noname July 20, 2009 at 2:59 pm

This writing is an absolute gem. Everything I have experienced personally… I tried to abstain 8-9 days regularly. And I had (no kidding) a lot of indicators of interest from women. They do approach and talk to me, even though I do not approach them at all. About the end of the week, I sometimes feel like I can run 100 meters in 10 seconds, like a kung-fu fighther, a boxer or whatever… Too much tension sometimes brings loss of concentration. Beware though, if you already produce too much testosterone like me, younger than 30, when you abstain it peaks and some guys become hostile to you. No kidding. I am absolutely serious.

Kambe July 23, 2009 at 5:04 am

Forget about the church. It seems like you did not understand what is happening to me. Masturbating has created problems to my health. I started since i was 17 and today i am 40. The damage is really huge. And i regret why i learned from a friend this bad habit. It is not about the church but about my health. Some problems i face due to this very stupid habit:
a) chronic fatigue
b)headach
c)flou
d)cough
e)kidney problems
f)weak erection(caused twice to divorce with my partners)
g)Eyes problems
i) Memory problems and lack of concentration
q) infertility(when i was 17years i produced children with two of my gils friends but when i get maried at 28 could not .)
I talk to some doctors online who know the effects of masturbating. I have to spent regulary 50$ to buy herbal products to correct the problems i have created for years. But it can be possible only if i stop also masturbating ,a habit in which i have becam as addicted to. I know many other people who have the same problems like me .
kambe. Thanks

The Man March 8, 2010 at 7:47 pm

I love the part “you should have a loaded gun” that made me laugh so hard man, you have no idea! Good advice!! :)

INTP March 21, 2010 at 5:35 pm

McDonalds = Junk Food
Masturbation = Junk Sex

PUA April 4, 2010 at 6:24 am

This is such a deep post on this topic.
Nobody really talks abou this and yet
it’s super important too.

I’ve jacked off every day since I was
10 or so.

I’ve been mulling this over for a while
now too. This gives me even more to
think about.

JRSun76 April 27, 2010 at 5:13 am

I agree that this is a topic worth exploring in relation to PUA. I have been experimenting with abstinence from orgasm and I have noticed personal benefits. Although I have experienced some of the nervousness mentioned after about a month, I have also noticed periods of clarity. It seems like a lot of guys trying this experiment experience this anxiety and it might have some explanations.
It could be the result of repression, which is never healthy. A possible solution would be to have another outlet like physical exercise, creative or mental endeavors, or close bonding with others. There is nothing new in this suggestion as many observers in past traditions point out this occurrence and the possible dangers of mismanaged sexual energy on the nervous system. However, it has also been the experience of other guys that have abstained to move through this discomfort.

I have been using this technique of abstaining from orgasm to help in my personal development and I have noticed an improvement in my emotional life. The dopamine cycle that accompanies orgasm is naturally addictive and thus states and input associated with it are particularly powerful. Having started to unravel this cycle, I have noticed that there is a difference in my mood depending on the circumstances surrounding the orgasm. The orgasm itself is associated with a dopamine spike, but over time and with frequent occurrence, there is more of a need to achieve the same dopamine rush. There is a building of tolerance. Naturally, the mind will grab dopamine spiking circumstances to compensate for the need for more dopamine. After years of doing this, a web of emotions, habits, and mental imagery can accompany orgasm and at this point, the orgasm is a different animal and depending on the severity, can cause hindrance on emotional health. When a person masturbates to porn, they are lighting up different pathways to achieve orgasm than they are while sleeping with a partner and the effects could be different. However, it is possible to masturbate without the dopamine-spiking rituals of mental fantasy (porn is a form of fantasy). This is considered healthy masturbation and is suggested by some psychologists involved in male empowerment. The idea of this technique is to free the mind of an internal compulsion that we have previously used to manage a deeper anxiety or unresolved issue. This anxiety that we experience while abstaining for over a month could possibly be the result of us actually coming into contact with this anxiety and we are not used to it, so it feels disturbing.

What does this have to do with PUA? Everything! As you know, its deep feelings of anxiety and shame that interfere with our success with women. Good PUA work is not mechanical techniques, but unraveling the outdated mental habits that prevent us from being our genuine attractive and relaxed selves.

Do the experiments for yourself and observe how you feel, that is the best way to tell.

My experience with practicing this has been more motivation for everything, more of a social life, better performance in school, better management of moods, I know Ive become more attractive to women because Ive been able to talk to them with greater ease. Ive broken out of my shell a lot more, Im more muscular than Ive ever been because Im motivated to change, and I carry myself a lot better. I was a worm about two years ago too. It feels like this has helped to put the fire under my ass and really get serious and clear about things.

My game is still a work in progress. I pick up PUA, have some limited success, and am driven back to do inner game because I encounter something uncomfortable that needs attention. The drive for reproduction is the most powerful force and motivator in organisms (even more than food), it can do a lot for us in our personal development if we learn to work with it and manage it well. I think our management of our own sexuality is a cornerstone in future lasting success with PUA, whether its for one night stands or eventual long term relationships.

namae nanka April 30, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Josh R. May 14, 2010 at 1:17 pm

Excellent post bro !!!! Very informative !!

Rdy4ragnarok May 22, 2010 at 4:16 pm

dude thanks im on 4 day of abstinence…

Adam May 26, 2010 at 10:59 pm

Where does sex come into this? Like what If I am abstaining from masturbation, and get laid on the 3rd or 4th day?

Matt Savage May 27, 2010 at 9:44 am

@Adam,
The point of the article was to abstain from masturbation so that you can have actual real sex. So, if you have sex after 3 or 4 days of abstinence then congratulations, you win!

Stoner with a Boner June 5, 2010 at 1:46 pm

If you are interested in increasing your testosterone levels-working out is a great way to go… Just hitting the gym a few times a week isn’t gonna turn you into a body builder but you will probably see a respectable increase in strength, stamina and energy levels. Also, if you are fat, that increases estrogene and lowers testosterone. So getting in shape and staying lean is the thing to do.

As far as masturbation, that is a really personal thing. If you are attempting “mastery over your cock” then that might be of some benefit… E.G.-I will not let the little head determine how I spend my time….looking at porn on the internet is a waste….etc.

However, another arguement can be made that rubbing one out can help one relax and get a better night’;s sleep, thus ensuring a more productive day.

Stonner with a Boner June 5, 2010 at 1:48 pm

Oh, and for premature ejaculators, rubbing one out before a date might be the best thing to ensure that things don’t end too quickly.

It’s not a one-size-fits-all for every guy.

Daniel July 5, 2010 at 1:29 am

i made myself a commitment.. if i have to ejaculate it means i dont have enough women and my routine is shit.
so i will not ejaculate and work on that…
hows that for motivation :-)

Tom July 23, 2010 at 1:09 am

I’ve never masturbated in my 18 years of life so this whole article did seem a little hard to relate to.

I ‘wet dream’ every few months or so I’d say, hard to tell but there aren’t many in a year. This has interested me greatly though, I’d love to help these findings in whatever way I can!

anonymous July 26, 2010 at 10:33 am

genial man
i completely agree with you.

Especially the trick reward opened my eyes.

i tell you – for me it s very hard to control it. pass 2 days it becomes a critical need. i presume it s just because i get bored and this is providing quick good feeling.

Now i m fighting against masturbation, putting out TV, VCR and PC from my home.
i want to lock my pc in my office not to have the possibility to take it after 2 days and do my stuff home..

It s amazing by the way how creative i can be after some days.
the drawback for me is that after 3/4 days i get on one hand strong desire but i don t want make effort to start with girls.
also more perverted sexuality come to my mind.
i get afraid and release all like a human bomb diffusing his load…

Well anyway i m happy to hear you and see that we re not alone..

THKS

martin August 31, 2010 at 4:10 pm

Im currently trying the 7 day cycle as u stated in the article, im on my second week so far and have found to be more sociable, more motivated and surprisngly less eager to open up porn and jerk off, its like u break out off a destructive habit and u take control off your sex life. also found that after just coming back from leeds festival yesterday that despite not eating or drinking as well as i usually do water/ good food, I came back looking really good and feeling in a better place in life. Something about them 4 days seems to off made me actually stronger physically, maybe constant being on your feet dancing barging etc, and being out doors and not watching tele, pc screen etc seems to do wonders for general skin glow and a clear head. I drank plenty of alchohol whilst there and i feel drinking alcohol only seems to benifit me, note not to much all the time obviously bad 4 u, but the odd few cans here and there and odd night out getting smashed on double vodkas i tend to feel more manly if thats best to describe it. I also think that less masturbation doing the 7 day cycle will do the following:

Easier to put on weight, as it should slower your metabolism gradually, i always find after wanking regulary for 7 days i feel slim and weak.

easier to build strength at gym, and also feel stronger already only been 2 weeks, barely been gym, and randomly leeds festival seems to off made me more stocky :s

More energy

More motivated

Improved concentration levels, example just statrting to learn the guitar again been useless in past but tried today and actually made progress.

More confident, i tended to look at porn for long periods and jerk off once per day hence brain focused on porn and wanking all the time, seems make me less confident

more sociable

Mature in a better way

be better looking better skin glow, i reckon id be less hairy on cheast if hadnt masturbated so much up to now

overall i would recommend the 7 day as cycle as anything longer that i think it starts gradually been badder 4 u. Im gonna do the 7 day cyle for a few more weeks and hopefully know for certain if its doing anything.

Jordan September 6, 2010 at 2:21 am

Thanks=) I know that I have a problem and you have given me the courage to take a loaded gun to battle=) I shouldve known this all along

Kill Bill September 6, 2010 at 5:01 am

Cold showers in the morning help.. not only do they help to abtain from masterbating, but they also have a lot of benefits, like antiaging, no dried out skin as hot water does that, thicker hair. google benefits of cold shower.

guy x September 18, 2010 at 9:20 pm

I thought you were just talking bull

Then i really thought about my life. Since i had discovered masterbation, had i ever gone even 2-3 days at most. So i was able to 5 whole days

The first three days, a bit hornier, but little difference. Fourth day i became motivated, and like confident, and there was this strange manliness about me. Like i am not a huge guy, but it was different. I felt more terrotorial. I looked at every women sexually, and things that would get me anxious, i did things that scared me, and i was able to get throug. The 5th day was awesome! unfourtonately i couldnt sleep late 5th day, and got weak. I am starting again, i cant wait for the sixth and seventh day, if the 4th and 5th are any indications,

Something happens, like you unconciously become more attractive, your body language changes. You look at women lustfully and they respond to that! I guess i will find out what i would have been with more Testesterone. Your more motivated to go out and find sex. Ill blog about the sixth and seventh day, hopefully i will make it.

Thank you, i realize now that i keep eating rice at home, i will never find the stake

guy x September 18, 2010 at 9:42 pm

I also want to add this

I have thought about this, and come to the conclusion that masterbation is an unnatural act. Here is my logic.

When jerking off we are sending false signals to the rest of the brain and the body that we are the ones having sex and passing our seed on.

You will agree with me when i say that life has two purposes, Survive and procreate. The fact that we have evolved to the point where sex is such a big deal is unnatural. In the prehistoric times sex was routine. You had sex with your female equivalent. Parts of our brain, especially some parts are still in those times. So masterbation is a big lie to the brain. we are not procreating!

As to why the testerone levels decline in the days after, i thought about this too. In nature, maybe it means that if you didnt have sex for a week or two, then you had adopted a different role in life. Such as that of raising children, gatherer. Think about what people who abstain, especially in the army etc. for like a year. They lose all interest in it. I have read this many times. Soldiers report of having lost the urge to have sex.

In nature, true nature, if you didnt have sex for a week then that would be odd, since you have an erection every morning. Now nature didnt think that maybe you wouldnt want to impregnate a girl every time you had sex, but in nature all women would be pregnant year round. Thus one woman would produce one child every year.

The lives we live now have become a joke. For all these useless things, we have sacrificed the right to eat what we want, drink what we want, and have sex without having fear, shame, dates, all this garbage we have now.

Survive and procreate

Have we really evolved.

bobby100 September 19, 2010 at 9:17 am

i am married since 20 years have kids as well. now i am 40. i consider myself very fit . but i am unable to get the habbit of masturbating now since i am typing this its been three days now. the reason is not very much enjoying sex with my spouse as she is very conservative .
and i am always feeling hot so i masturbate a lot and the problem i have face is prmature ejaculation. how to get rid of it and is it reall true that if u stop masturbating you really get women to get laid or how, need a good answer to my post .

joe September 21, 2010 at 7:04 am

Interesting post, i have masturbated only once a week for a few years now. To be honest it hasn’t made much of a difference in my life. What i have realized thought is that masturbation really is a HABIT it is not something that you HAVE TO DO.

Personally i have far better things to do than play with my dick.

Master Sargent September 24, 2010 at 5:09 pm

Fact is, 2-4 ejaculations per week from sex or wanking heavily reduces the risk of prostate cancer.

Fact is, orgasms help you fall asleep quickly.

Solution = get 2-4 bangs per week, not masturbations. lol

“Cold showers in the morning help.. not only do they help to abtain from masterbating, but they also have a lot of benefits, like antiaging, no dried out skin as hot water does that, thicker hair. google benefits of cold shower.”
Good point.

Neuromonger September 28, 2010 at 1:38 am

Wow, I’ve always sort of had a suspicion that I may feel better after abstaining from masterbation for a while, but been skeptical about making any conclusions involving correlation of abstinence to the way I’ve felt during abstinence. After exerting quite a bit of effort to find some confirmation to my suspicions, google searches prompted very little but answers to ridiculous to seem worth my time.

First of all thank you for the article. The combination of cultural reference, surmises from personal experience, with a dash of science made it the most interesting read I’ve found so far, and after reading about the correlation of testosterone levels and abstinence, I’d like to share the experience that prompted me to once again search for this subject(which lead to me finding this article). I have an quite a bit of free time which I spend on the computer, and there are no less than two universities in my town. The combination of these two things makes it very rare for me to go for even a day without ejaculating.

It has been two days though, and similarly to how one can feel a sense of nostalgia triggered by a smell which forces them to recall some distant memory, I recently was taken aback by the realization that the way I felt during my recent abstinence reminded me so strongly of the feelings I had in middle school and early high school(in 22 now).

In your article, it seems a fantastic coincidence to my situation that you’ve included this correlation between testosterone levels and abstinence, because the day before my two day abstinence I began taking DHEA, a precursor to testosterone, as well as human growth hormones, epinephrine, and quite a few other neurotransmitters and hormones(And for those unfamiliar with biochemistry, ingestion of a precursor to a neurotransmitter or hormone generally results in an increase in the amount that exists in the body). On top of that coincidence, I had begun tanking tyrosine, a precursor to dopamine and epinephrine. I stopped taking the DHEA today, as frequent use of it at my age can be detrimental to liver and other biological functions. I will recreate the factors of my situation some time soon, and if the same result takes place, I think I will have actually found for myself a very significant modification to my routine, as far as making myself happy. I feel fucking amazing. If anyone has ever masterbated at a specific frequency to maximize chemical well being, please email me with the results you seem to find, especially if you’ve done so in conjunction with the use of DHEA.

almost 40 year old virgin September 28, 2010 at 6:11 am

Very interesting article.
High testosterone level is also beneficial in building muscle mass and burning fat, so sports in general.
Trying to “achieve” the one week mark will be an interesting observation exercise (or rather non-exercise). :)

Matt Savage September 28, 2010 at 9:30 am

Neuromonger,
You seem to have a better grasp of how all the hormones work along with the other biochemistry knowledge. Your experiments in using DHEA is pretty interesting and will be curious to see if you can replicate your results. May I ask what you’re majoring in? I presume it’s something having to do with biochemistry?

Neuromonger September 30, 2010 at 4:16 pm

I’m glad to read that you enjoyed my input. I actually still have another semester left of basics, and my major will probably flop back and forth between many things(One of my parents teaches at the university, which grants me a large scholarship by default, so I can afford a lot of experimentation).
I will probably end up moving more towards information technology, though there are avenues to merge that with neurology. It’s actually possible to replace a hippocampus now with something that is kind of like a hard drive, for people who have conditions comparable to what is depicting in in the movie “Memento”, and there has actually been a toy released this year, which is the first attempt to use a brain to computer interface device to replace controllers for gaming. One company that makes these is emotiv systems, and hackers work pretty diligently to make open source versions of any software that they make, so I would deffinately say that information technology could lead into neurology by the time I would have a degree.
While I do have some credit hours dedicated to nutrition and pharmacy, most of my knowledge of biochemistry comes from reading about something called the “hedonistic imperative”, which is sort of the drug-related, more realistic side of Transhumanism(but I can all ready see I’m getting too off-topic to explain those things here), and having lived in a town with two universities, I’ve had my fair share of dabble in Psychonautics, which involved just as much reading as recreational drug use.
One thing that I’d like to conclude with(because I would feel a bit guilty if I didn’t), after realizing it should have been in my article, for anyone who caught interest in DHEA, internet searches about it will expose you to many readings about how amazing DHEA is for your health. Most of these sources neglect to mention that these health benefits are exclusively correlated to DHEA use in old people, because it causes their growth hormone to be at levels similar to what they had when they were young. If your all ready young, regular use of DHEA in high doses can have similar effects as steroids, including the possibility of causing liver failure.

Abstaining October 24, 2010 at 4:49 am

I have been going the once a week route now for a few weeks and have noticed increased energy, drive and confidence. It definitely helps me creatively when playing my guitar and helps me socially when talking to people in general. I did try going 30 days the longest, but was pretty stressed out even though I did feel very sharp mentally. Too compensate you need to meditate and exercise to relieve stress for the days you don’t masturbate and I’ve been doing this and it has helped. I wonder though if it is possible to quit completely and rely on wet dreams though…

Gabriel October 26, 2010 at 12:26 pm

The interesting thing is, whenever I come back from the gym, even though I worked out a sweat and should be exhausted, I feel a strong sexual urge, but no surprise considering how the testosterone has built up. Usually I like to work-out before I head-out.

Corey November 5, 2010 at 3:48 pm

I once went on a trip out east with a bunch of friends, one of them being a girl I really liked but she had absolutely no interest in me. Since we were so busy traveling and sightseeing, I had no time to masturbate for the entire week . Low and behold, throughout the week her and I grew closer and closer, to the point of almost spending the night together on the final night (day 7). However, one of the other women became jealous and kept purposely (and literally) getting in the way, so it never happened. There was a fair mix of guys and girls on the trip (10 all together), and I’m sure the other guys probably continued to masturbate regularly. So it is in my opinion that it helped make me the alpha. It was an odd experience, I honestly think it had much to do with the spike in testosterone by day 6 and 7 (I definitely felt different). But the time we returned, and regular sex (and masturbation) continued in normal life with my actual girlfriend (who I was having problems with at the time, because I liked the other girl), that really deep connection I felt with her (and from the jealous girl) has totally seized.

Got Skills? November 24, 2010 at 5:49 pm

I think masturbation is a good think when you’re not depending only on it. It releases the stress and whatever problems you might thing you have – they are all in your head.

mogword November 28, 2010 at 2:34 am

Due to over masturbation. Once a day for 10 years, I was left with soft erections and had a very hard time getting it up with the hottest of woman.

Western medicine did not have a solution except for take more of these pills or those pills and see if it works.

Eastern medicine which has developed over thousands of years looks at a holistic approach. I eventually came across some forum boards about sexual exhaustion.

Its true. Sexual exhaustion (The lack of essential male essence. Dopamine, Testosterone and etc) will occur in your life if you masturbate too much for too long. Once a week is probably fine, but every day is over kill.

After 10 days you will level out and your urge to find the woman of your dreams starts happening. You will start to feel confident, cool, calm and collected.

I have been with some very beautiful woman all due to my abstinence and only jerking it every so ooften. Its not only because I am horny and they realize it. It is because I have more overall energy, spiritually, mentally and physically.

Its hard abstaining from sexual thoughts when you live in a world where sex is marketed at all times. One of the biggest problems in the western world is the lack of meditation or clearing of the mind. We live for decades thinking, thinking and thinking. Primarily selfish thoughts. The moment we learn to protect our essence is the moment we find a peace of mind.

Thats my own personal opinion, most will disagree. Ask your self, why is it that our American culture has so many prostate and erection issues? Why don’t we see these issues in third world countries were men are more focused on surviving and not thinking about sex or masturbating often.

mufu November 28, 2010 at 10:50 am

If you can go 7 days without blowing a load and then have sex, and NOT finish in less than 5 minutes I am jealous.

There is definitely a negative correlation between the number of days I go without and my endurance in bed, which forces me to “clean the pipes” before I might get some.

Anonymous December 8, 2010 at 2:21 pm

Please DON’T say that masturbation is healthy, this is all crap, take it form a 9 years addict to masturbation it’s terrible, it destroys you, you disrespect your self and you’ll end up a lonely bastard watching porn and having no relationships at all.

tuthmosis December 10, 2010 at 10:28 pm

Sorry for the long comment, but I stumbled on this website and had to chime in on the discussion.

I’ve definitely noticed serious shifts, in both directions, with changes in my masturbation cycle.

Until about two years ago, I used to have complete dominion over my ejaculation. I could bang a girl for as long as I needed/wanted to and could basically cum on command. I could literally bang a girl for forty minutes or 90 seconds, hard-fucking or sweet-love–up to me. I had a couple of girls credibly give me the “best ever” prize. I masturbated once in a great while, since I had a steady rotation of prospects to service the engine or a girlfriend that I could call over to fuck when needed.

Then a strange thing happened. I got a “serious” girlfriend and made the mistake of moving in with her. The problem is that this girl had a low drive and didn’t enjoy actual intercourse as much as previous chicks. Sometimes, after fucking her for 5 or 6 minutes, she’d basically ask me to wrap it up. A lot of the time she wasn’t even interested. I started having LESS actual sex and jerking it to porn a lot more. A lot. To make matters worse, our sex wasn’t that good, so I’d find myself jerking it right AFTER having sex with her.

That wreaked habit on my control. I started cumming in a minute or two, even when I didn’t want to. Then, when she started to actually enjoy fuckin’, I couldn’t last long enough. She basically created the problem, but now it was MY problem. I tried the kegel bullshit and trying to jerk it off slowly, but none of that worked.

So I decided to go cold turkey. No mo’ masturbation. I figured that if I couldn’t get laid at home, the drive would get me laid elsewhere. So far (and it’s been a month), I’m finding a lot of the same results guys have reported, with some twists:

1. Overall feeling:
I’m aiming for the seven-day cycle, but I find there’s a consistent arc, depending on the day. Day 1 is whatever. Days 2, 3, 4 are the best. I feel manly, strong, and motivated to exercise. Great concentration. Smooth in my approaches. Days 5 and 6 start getting difficult. I spend more time distracted by sex and plotting my moves. My glaring at chicks starts getting creepy and TOO lustful. But this may change with more practice.

2. Approaches:
I never had a problem with approaches, but I found myself getting too cutesy and “clownish”–focused on entertaining, rather than on an actual goal. Now I exude a masculine sexuality when I transact with girls, with the same amount of charm, and they respond differently. I went to a social dance last week (on Day 3) and I was fondling and touching and laughing with a group of three girls. I had the energy and drive to keep all those balls in the air. My target was all over me, despite learning later on that she had a boyfriend at home.

3. Lasting power:
This is a work in progress, but with some measurable results. I’m finding that if I get some action on days 3 or 4, I can already control things a lot more and last longer. By days 5 and 6, I’m so pent-up that I still cum rather quickly, but find that I recover a lot faster than before. Whereas before I needed a whole day to “reload,” I could go again in an hour.

Anyone have any thoughts on the lasting-power aspects of the 7-day cycle and these other issues?

Jeff B. December 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm

So, I’m getting my life together. Been going to the gym. Bout to go out more and more. I used to do it many times a day some where around 5 times on a good day.

I’m on day 2 and this is torture! I think I might have been someone who used it as a stress and anxiety reducer but damn I’m sorta going out of my mind knowing that its gonna be quite sometime before I can do it.

I suppose thats the whole point right? To increase the drive to actually find women?

How can I get through this? and is it really worth it?

Great site btw.

ThePickupArtist December 17, 2010 at 3:15 pm

I’ve tried to figure this out for some time, and I’m thankful you put this thoughtful post here. Actually sometimes watching some good porn gets me all horny and motivated to go out. Especially when I had a busy week at work and no time for social interactions. But I think it is as with the rest of pickup skills training – the field is better than being alone at home!

pappy mason January 26, 2011 at 4:01 pm

Prelude: Around New Years day I decided instead of making a bunch of resolutions which would eventually be broken and forgot about I would focus on one idea and experiment that I felt would be both a mental and spiritual challenge. I would remain abstinent for 40 days. Along this ambitious journey I will document and explain any mental and physical transformations that occur during this time. The inspirational voice behind this act has been my own. I feel that my extreme and overwhelming attraction to women in the physical has grown to impair both my creative energy and interactions with many women in general. My goal is not to rid my sex drive or amount of physical attraction to women but instead to channel that energy into music and physical health and well being. I have decided to use this same energy and direct it towards my creative process and developing a clearer mind and healthier body. Because I stay active with stretching, Pilates and weight training to begin with the biggest challenge obviously will be to remain abstinent. In order to assure this experiment is not interrupted I have deleted the numbers of females that I was active with or could potentially be active with. Yarch to the masses…

Day 1- Feeling fine. Nothing was truly difficult today at all worked on some music and excited for the album to come out!

Day 2- Woke up pretty pissed off…not sexual frustration but mainly because I realize I can’t turn back now. Went to the gym and worked on music as usual did 1 hour of gyro tonics and meditation.

Day 3- Felt very strong in the gym however after my workout i felt slightly dull. I am extremely hydrated and have been eating well but I feel a bit groggy. Could be from anything though..

Day 4- Had very intense dreams sleeping last night. One dream was being on stage with baba and soundcheck taking long..this delayed our show an hour and the crowd was restless and I jumped in and crowd surfed. The whole audience was excited..and as i was pushed back on stage I saw the face of a girl (i will not name) that i met at a RISD party weeks before( and yes would like to have sex with this girl). Woke up went about my business worked on music was kind of stumped but ended up getting it together and making a very good altered version of a song. Sent it to the label they loved it.

Day 5- Woke up extremely aggressive but relieved for being able to control myself for day five. Went to the gym felt surprisingly weak but fought through it. Came home helped around the house worked on music, then filmed the u-stream webisode with TED. Came home and went to bed.

Day 6- No morning wood lol…that’s about all i can say for this day

Day 7- Borderline Numb…basically my sex drive is all mental but thinking about certain women doesn’t necessarily make me physically tempted to engage in sex and i refuse to resort to pornography or whacking it.

Day 8- Woke up feeling proud of myself for making 8 days. Went to the gym had an amazing workout. Excited to go to work on a visual for a song off the album. Got some reviews back from blow up magazine italy. Was crazy to see an article written in Italian about my group. What set me off though was some bad press by Resident Advisor. For whatever reason while reading the article I became extremely irate. Usually this is not in my nature but I felt abnormally aggressive for about fifteen minutes. I then laughed it off and realized i may be going through some sort of hormonal changes. I’m not a scientist but I definitely feel different lol.

Day 9- Felt Amazing all day. High energy and feelings of ambition.

Day 10- Travelled to work on the music video. Day went great felt amazing and even more energetic from being around good people.

Day 11- Shot the video all day. Excited to have the crew work so well together and very happy with the footage we got. After shot the scene and hung out I was very excited to possibly party and see some women. One woman in particular did not show up and for some reason i was slightly bothered by it. Out of nowhere i started feeling extreme feelings of curiosity and attraction towards this particular girl and she wasn’t even there.LOl my minds playing tricks on me and im not even drunk…Then I realize that it’s day 11 and i think my testosterone is significantly high today

Day 12- Got back to nyc to kick it with the A&R then went home to nj. I picked up food for my family and was not given the proper amount of money. I put the bill on my credit card and came home and realized i could have paid half with cash and half on my card. My mother told my sisters what i did and i grew extremely irate. I never usually let things like that upset me. For 20 minutes i felt very upset and depressed. I then laughed at myself and then worked on some music and felt calm. I can honestly say that changes have been felt and it has been 12 days. I am very conscious of placebo but i definitely feel like the past three days have had the biggest impact on my emotions.

Day 13- Ran some errands in NYC …went to soho and as I like to put it the SWAN capital of the world..i will explain SWAN later…I literally found something attractive about every single woman i walked past.. I was able to hold eye contact and smile at any woman but then I felt creepy and chilled out. Things seemed more vivid to me..the skin tone, clarity, bone structure and pheromones of every woman were pulsating all around me. I wouldn’t say I feel straight up horny but instead i feel spiritually inclined with the presence of women as creatures that put life into the world. It was one of the most amazing and bizarre days since boarding the ship.YARCH!

Day 14- I am literally convinced I can give any woman the best sex of her life at this point. It’s been two weeks I feel pure and more in charge of my self and my actions. I truly feel like a full being and have been inspired greatly to write songs for the next album.

Day 15- Writing a bunch of new songs. I feel great I think that the biggest challenge was the first ten days. I now feel balanced no feelings of anxiety or depression and extremely creative. Although I have been working on music every day post the first day of abstaining i have felt a spike in creativity after the first week. I don’t think it is placebo because crazy ideas have came to me and i’ve not been stumped at all. The nicolas Jaar album has inspired me to go even more left. I think the feelings of loneliness have gone away after the first seven to ten days..I now feel more comfortable in this state then reverting back. I think the main reason im not tweaking and eager to go meet new women other than this snow storm is that im in a creative zone musically. We will see if this remains, but it feels good so far. Yarch on!

another_follower January 27, 2011 at 5:45 pm

hi,

i know this post is kind of old now, but i couldn’t google-out an answer to my question:
if my body is used and has formed with low testosterone levels (many years of playing with my pal…) , so will this once_a_week T level get me to my ACTUAL, genetically determined, physical appearance? I mean all the secondary sexual dimorphism features.
Cuz as a mid-twenties guy i’d really like to look more masculine… Or even have bigger “package”, and for god’s sake- a non-patchy growing beard!! =]

Can’t wait for replies!

Matt Savage January 28, 2011 at 12:36 am

@Pappy Mason,

Wow, great recap of your abstinence experiment! If only more guys would simply give it shot like you and see the results for themselves rather than going into endless speculation and denial.

@another_follower,

I’m not exactly sure what your saying, but it seems like you are implying that while in your mid twenties you don’t believe that you have fully developed your genetically pre-determined masculine features because of excessive masturbation? If that is what you are implying, then I think you might be stretching, considering that between puberty and the height of your development at around 18-19 years old, your body is constantly producing Testosterone and replenishing as to get your body to it’s desired developed state even if you are masturbating a lot. In fact, if there was ever a time in a guys life where my 7 day hypothesis doesn’t apply it’s during the late teens to early twenties, simply because the replenishment cycle of testosterone is much quicker than someone older. So, in my opinion, you’ve probably already peaked in terms of growth development, however that doesn’t mean that abstaining won’t help you, it does still increase masculine traits but in a more subtle way such as deeper voice, more release of attractive pheromones, confidence, motivation and general well-being.

Hopefully that made sense. If not, stay tuned, as I’ll be delving deeper into my own personal research on this topic.

another_follower January 28, 2011 at 8:28 am

ahh darn it =] well at least i get more aggressive and get into mindset “sex sex sex sex other_stuff sex sex sex sex…” =]
can’t wait for that new topic You mentioned, hopefully i won’t miss it.

this whole blog is awesome, Matt!

Steve January 31, 2011 at 11:48 am

Hey guys, I’m 20 years old, have been masturbating since I was 11 pretty much every day so I think I’ve also been addicted for the past 9 years and I suspect this could be a contribution to my low levels of motivation, energy, confidence, etc.

However I do want to try this theory because I’ve also had suspicions that it may work.

But that’s the thing, if I’ve been addicted to masturbation, am I doomed for the rest of my life or can this experiment really restore my testosterone levels and my penis back to good form?

Thanks!

Steve C January 31, 2011 at 2:38 pm

Well guys I’ve tried this and all I can say is that it’s changed my life!

All of a sudden I’m a babe magnet, the girls all pay me way more attention than they ever did before (I have two dates in a week with girls at work), my energy levels have gone through the roof, I can concentrate more on the goals in my life / including work…… wow just wow… sure it was hard for the first few days…

Limit the masturabtion to maybe just once a week like stated, and if you do need to relieve yourself don’t masturbate to porn or you may slip back into the cycle.

I’m on my 8th day no and still going strong… not sure if I should even masturbate now or wait longer??

DUMP the porn boys!!

kambe February 1, 2011 at 3:07 am

Masturbation is very dangerous. I have experience of 25 years. The science has never found the danger of this vice but with experience i came to notice that really masturbating is dangerous to the body. Some people will tell you that it is just a myth . yOU COME TO REALISE the danger after mmany years after the body has become sick and very weak.some symptoms due to masturbation:
1)blurry vision and a lof pain on eyes.
2)CHRONIC FATIGUES up to the extend of failing take your shower using your hand.you have the feeling that your own hands are very havy for you.
3) Constipation. You do not have good digestion.
4) Very weak erection and your sperm can be leaking.
5)Chronic headack
6) Very low immune system like in a HIV+ person.
7)Feeeling of burning even when it is very cold
8) dry month
9) thining of the hair and hair loss
10) groomed faceand less attraction to women…
When you stop masturbating for several weeks some of the symptoms disappear.
Kambe

Matt Savage February 1, 2011 at 11:51 am

@Kambe,

I think you went a little overboard here and don’t believe masturbation will cause that amount of side effects you are claiming. Granted, I do believe that excessive masturbation causes decreases in certain male hormones and can have effects on libido and mental state, but you go to far with your claims with little evidence to back them up, whether anecdotal or otherwise.

Paul February 8, 2011 at 2:32 pm

Here’s a link to to a lengthy list of people’s experiences quitting porn and masturbation for as much as several months. It’s quite a compelling read.

http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/0.BENEFITS.pdf

kambe February 9, 2011 at 8:58 am

Symptoms i described last time will be experienced only when:
1) you have over masturbated
2) you have overmasturbated for longtime.

In the beginning when one starts masturbating it seems to be good as i also thought .
Some doctors and cultures(westerners especially) encouge this bad practice. But with time you come to realise that the body has been used in a irreparable manner because of so called experts who claim that masturbating is good.
After you have over masturbated for a long period you will notice two major health problems which i describe as first symtoms:
1) Excessive fatigue.
2) Very weack erection
N.B: What do i describe as over masturbation? Do you know that some people can masturbate up to more than 15 time in a single day? personnaly i went throught this experience and some of my collegues .In this case you feel like the kidneys are going to burst and with time the brain will be affected(difficulty of cocentration) and many more health complication.
The effect of over masturbation will not only affect your health but also your social life will suffer with time.

Some of you said that i did not support this with evidence.
You should know that i came to this conclusion after i have personnaly experienced it for years and after many other youth have complained of similar symptoms. But i did also research for many yearsin this field.
Kambe

Joe February 10, 2011 at 6:27 pm

I am 14 years old almost 15 i looked this up because i finally realized masterbaiting was not the answer. I have masterbaited since i was 11 everyday till i realized it was not okay anymore(no joke 4 years masterbaiting everyday, only one time per day) and ever since i quit i have noticed major changes in my attitude towards women. I can aproach them way better and I litterly know everything to say to them but i only did it for a week… Then i couldnt handle it and busted a load. I made it around 6 days longest i have ever done in 4 years. But on Monday (2 days after i busted) i noticed i was not as good at talking to women. But by the middle of the week i was back on top of my game.. In conclusion i think that the 7 day cycle is possibly the way to go!

Steve C February 11, 2011 at 3:20 am

Yes you have to watch that, I waited 8 days before busting and then I hit the floor then next day.. I was all over the place emotionally. So when you bust you want it to be on a quiet day, so bust Sat night and then recover sunday maybe…

Nate February 22, 2011 at 7:55 pm

Great Article!

One of the things I noticed was that I had more energy for working out and I was more productive (overall) if I delayed from doing it. If I proceeded to do it daily, it made me lethargic all week.

I’m actually going to put this to the test and go with the seven day method!

Girlx February 26, 2011 at 2:53 am

I like watching my boyfriend jerking off but you are right if I want a really good hard fuck I like him to stop wanking for a few days so that when I see him a the weekends he has a massive hardon the minute we touch his erections are much harder and he can go at it for much longer before he does ejaculate he cums harder and faster and his cum is much more potent and seems thicker and more mobile and I enjoy sex much more with him and love the idea that he has saved his cum for me for the whole week to give me and deep hard fuck and lots of hot creamy spunk.

keshaw March 4, 2011 at 11:43 pm

Firstly I’m gonna thank you for such a brilliant article. Indeed it helped me because I abstained from masturbation for like 4-5 days and i must admit, it feels great. Before i was like an uncontrollable psycho and there was this intense urge of relieving myself and this interfered in my personal life. But now this is no longer the case and talking to girls is much more easier. Such articles should be reinforced by giving steps and advice. Again thanks a lot!!

G Man March 22, 2011 at 1:27 pm

I started masturbating 10 years back when I was 15 (with varying frequencies , from every day to once a week etc), and dint think much about it til now when I felt that it was holding me back from getting it on with women .. things were different when I was young and would constantly approach girls and got a lot of action besides masturbation, but feel now my sex drive has reduced and wanking off takes care of my sexual needs, hence the reduced urge to go and flirt with women .. so I decided to stop masturbating for a while and see what happens, its been 9 days now and i dont have any urge to do it whatsover ..

These are my observations :

First few days, I felt like I have more energy and time to do things .. but what was dramatic was the change in reaction of women around me .. i used to get stares before as well, but it has increased (some sort of hidden force i guess) .. i talk to a lot more random women now, and they seem overtly giggly and suggestive .. I am more aggressive in talking to them, and they seem to like it ..

However, there is a downfall to this .. during a presentation that I had to give (on the 8 th day of abstaining) , i was over excited and could not control my voice (usually quite confident with these sort of things) I was really aggressive in defending my ideas when someone asked questions .. I guess it has to do with all the hormones that are stored up due to abstinence.. maybe next time i wil wank off before such a thing, but otherwise it feels great socially .. kind of reminds me of my childhood days when i wanted to make more and more friends .. and women they seem so much more beautiful now , and I want them more and more :)

its like women just know you are saving up your ‘love’ for someone like them

fuck porn .. that shit kills your soul !

John March 28, 2011 at 8:53 am

This is so true. I always thought it, good to see facts backing it up. My rule is that if you have to do it, do it before you get 7+ hours of solid sleep.

John March 31, 2011 at 10:06 am

It’s been like 4 days since I’ve been abstaining and I feel much more confident, masculine and invigorated.

John March 31, 2011 at 10:07 am

abstaining from masturbation of course, I feel like fucking every woman I’m attracted to right there on the spot. lol

Mike April 11, 2011 at 2:45 am

Hey Matt,

Does having sex everyday have the same negative effects? Or are there positive effects that outweigh the negatives.

Mike

kambe April 11, 2011 at 7:50 am

According to the experiences masturbating and doing sex regulary are not the same. Masturbating is more damaging than doing real sex with a partner of the opposite sex.
People say that mastabating is good and natural and those who oppose it’s benefits are not informed or do not know any thing about it.
The truth is that mastabating is very dangerous. When you masterbate you are killing your own body. The body(the brain) will realise that you have cheated. And consequenses are really unbearable. And this do not happen in a single day. It take time before you notice that you have killed your body by overmastubating.
Overmastubating will affect your life in all aspects of life( It will affect your health, social life..)
kamb

Clinton April 14, 2011 at 4:11 pm

Wow. Ok first things first. About 10 years ago for the first time ever after about 12 years of jerking of, I decided to try and stop. I just felt it might be a good thing to do at the time because I was cleaning up areas of my life and thought I’ll confront this problem also. Anyway I managed 2 weeks and one thing I noticed is when I did get an erection, it was much bigger than normal. Lasted 2 weeks, then one night I had the window open in my flat and I heard the couple next door having sex. I was pissed of because this was torture. But had to give in and rubbed one out. Can’t remember much of how I felt for that 2 weeks now except for the irony of that incident. Seemed like a test from god. I’ve only ever heard someone having sex 3 tines in the many years I’ve been living there. Anyway back to present day. I decided to try again. Funny because I had alot of ideas that it would help in areas like you’ve all mentioned. Only on day 2 now but thought I’d google it and found this site. I’m so glad to gave alot of ideas confirmed. Had a realisation reading the last comment. I wonder if it’s natures way of keeping you with the girl your with. So that other women won’t be as interested. Want to write more but I
at work typing on my iPhone. I’ll keep you updated. Only day two. But as I’m a bit of a loner I’m very interested to see what happens.

Clinton April 14, 2011 at 4:14 pm

I was referring to mikes post. Second last one btw

strizer April 17, 2011 at 1:13 pm

- Check out what ayurveda, taoism says about the topic.
ie., preserving and converting it (see multi-orgasmic man)
- 100 drops of blood go to make 1 drop of semen
- One can masturbate & not come. Difficult but doable through practice.

kambe April 21, 2011 at 4:59 am

Dear clinton
am very happy that you have really brought all what i was
advising on masturbation. Masturbation has a very bad side effects and serious consequenses .However you suggested that one should seek help from homeotherapeth.You did not provide some of their adress in order to find them.
Kambe

Bogger April 23, 2011 at 4:03 am

I found that if I’m abstaining from masturbation I’ve got more energy, my voice is deeper, I’m more confident and sooo horny. Now, after 5 days non masturbating, I had very erotic dreams, and usual I don’t have them at all.
My energy levels are higher, to the point I have problem with falling asleep. But it’s only about week of such high, then it’s going to be normal.

Modern Monk April 27, 2011 at 12:32 am

Regarding sexual energy, build up, relaxation, etc, you might be interested in this;

http://www.reuniting.info/wisdom/is_sex_a_private_matter

Just an excerpt, Over 2000 years ago, Daoist Master Laozi is said to have advised that a person’s approach to sex is a sign of his level of spiritual evolution.1 For those who aspire to the higher realms of living, there is “angelic dual cultivation,” which allows every portion of the body, mind and spirit to meet its yearning for the integration of yin and yang.

Modern neuroscience is beginning to confirm Laozi’s claim that ordinary sex (with orgasm) disorders the subtle energies. Deep in a primitive part of the brain known as “the reward circuitry,” orgasm equates with a mighty surge of a neurochemical called dopamine. It’s the “I’ve got to have it” neurochemical that urges us to do things that furthered our ancestors’ material plane survival, and above all, pass on genes.

It makes us feel like Superman or Wonder Woman when it surges. Indeed a Dutch scientist reported that brain scans of people having orgasm resemble those of people shooting heroin.2

However, just like a drug high, it does not lead to lasting feelings of satisfaction. Dopamine drops immediately after orgasm, and other neurochemical shifts adversely affect dopamine levels for days.3

In some lovers this shift accounts for the “roll over and snore” phenomenon, often followed by days of emotional detachment. However, the neurochemical changes may show up as neediness, irritability, mood swings, feelings of scarcity and defensiveness, harsh judgments, hyper-activity, a “need for space,” cravings for (addictive) substances (or more orgasms) that temporarily raise dopamine in the reward circuitry, etc.
….

More here;
http://www.reuniting.info/wisdom/is_sex_a_private_matter

joker T.M. May 1, 2011 at 7:42 am

Maaaan, I always felt that something was wrong with me since I started masturbating heavily about 6,7 years ago. Although I had two girlfriend for the past full 5 years I still retained the habit, I felt lazy all the time. However, I rember a 6 month period in which I had a fight with my girlfriend so we separated, and in that 6 months I didnt masturbate that much….wow now that made me energetic more sociable and more productive….. funny how it all comes together if you think about it…

I’m starting the 7 day cycle abouuuuut: NOW! :D

jon bon van dame May 3, 2011 at 4:37 pm

I didn’t read all the comments, i will get around to that, but are there any other studies about when you peak? I know from experience (training 4-7 hrs a day before state in high school) where i had abstained from masturbation for a whole season 4-6+ months and i peaked for like 3 days with roid rage.. im very even tempered but i never experienced anything like this. I was literally GOD for like 3 or 4 days.

Unfortunately it went away 2 days before state. What i mean by roid rage is 1) I was literally invincible. I could feel like power radiating around my body like an invisible shield and was capable of killing anything with my bare hands and 2) I had a terrible temper for like 2 days. I snapped at people for taking too long and little annoyances. Eventually I apologized but I was excessively aggressive and mean for a few days.

Has anybody heard of this? It seems to be the same as the Raging Bull theory where you peak in aggressiveness however this was a 4-6ish month abstinence so i have no idea how to time it.

It may not take that 4-6 months, I only started training more than 5 hrs a day for about a month before state so it may be possible to hit this peak for a 2-4 day window after abstaining for 1 month and training 6+ hrs a day

Tdog May 4, 2011 at 4:48 pm

It’s hard ( no pun intended) for me to abstain from jacking off. I have figured out that I can man up and deal with my horny feelings or wimp out and jack off. People notice when I’m not masturbating. I take that extra effort to look attractive to girls. I of course don’t tell others of what I am doing but it makes me feel good to be in control of my desires. The seven day rule workss!

panagiotis May 5, 2011 at 5:52 pm

Hello matt, there is a question i’d like to ask. As im at the 6th day of abstaining ,i start feeling more confident on approaching women, but I think I’m coming across a problem. If I actually manage to get laid, wont I have a premature ejaculation because I didnt masturbate for that long?

JP May 7, 2011 at 7:13 pm

Is it okay to masturbate but not go to climax? ie no fluid coming out? Do you still think you’d get the same effects as giving up masturbation completely? Would it be better or worse? What about other factors like time? I mean there would have to be a difference between masturbating for 2 minutes and not cumming compared to 30 minutes and not cumming?

Also, there seems to be some worry about not orgasming over a long period of time. Is there any worries about this? I’m kind of guessing a wet dream would take care of this if one was going without sex and masturbation. That reminds me does anybody notice any energy/spirit effects after having a wet dream? I can’t remember my energy levels after having one when I was younger.
Finally, it seems like common sense that biology would prefer us procreating rather than masterbating. However, I’m kind of curious if anybody can think up of any biological reasons why man or woman would masturbate.
Thanks for any replies.

Matt Savage May 9, 2011 at 1:08 pm

@jon bon van dame,
I think your 4-6 months of abstinence was probably a bit much, especially combined with your training, which also boosts testosterone levels. With all that testosterone flowing through your body, I’m not surprised at how aggressive you became. This is why I believe that we have a natural cycle that tries to correct our hormonal balances, one of which is through ejaculation/masturbation and why a usually only abstain for not more than 7-14 days.

@panagiotis,
Yes, it’s quite probable that you will ejaculate sooner during sex, but I wouldn’t let that be an issue as you should hopefully be able to bounce back for round 2 with minutes and last much longer. In addition, as you have more and more sex (hopefully) then you will get better at controlling the timing of your ejaculation. If you’re pre-mature, just shrug it off and tell her that was a practice round and the next one will blow her mind :)

@JP,
Well the point of this whole thing is the connection between the actual ejaculation and release of dopamine as a reward system. Therefore, if you masturbated but didn’t ejaculate, then you’re not depleting those hormones. So, in theory your idea could work, but I highly doubt most men could masturbate on a regular basis without the urge to finish to completion, so I really don’t think this is viable strategy.

I do think that we do need to orgasm on a particular cycle which I infer could be anywhere between 7-14 days depending on your age, diet, physical fitness, etc. As you say, eventually, our bodies will take care of this through wet dreams if it has to.

Anon May 16, 2011 at 10:47 pm

Awesome article, and awesome advice.

For the badly addicted, who are reading this article in hopes to quit – KNOW that this information will change your life – IF you are DETERMINED to follow it completely.

you won’t need to read “how to be attractive to women” articles anymore… It will come naturally. just as you will… haha

JP May 16, 2011 at 11:12 pm

It is known that confidence is important in attracting women. Doing my reading on the matter, I have read people say that they found women were more attracted to them when they’re not masturbating. Like they can sense it.
Now of course, if you’re feeling better, more energetic, more manaly and confident you’re going to get more women interested in you but I’m wondering if a woman can subconciously/biologically tell if a guy is not masturbating and hence be more attracted to them. Kind of smilar to phermones thinking. It makes sense to me that a woman would want to be with a guy more who doesn’t masturbate compared to one that does all other things being equal and nature probably has a way of telling them that.

JP May 16, 2011 at 11:18 pm

Anon, I like how you seem pretty certain on this matter. Would you care to share your knowledge? Thanks.

kambe May 17, 2011 at 1:34 am

Women naturally have the tendancy of avoiding guys who overmasturbate. There is something natural in women which just take women away from you if you are overmasturbating.
Masturbation is very bad. its spoil your life.
Kambere

Woody May 17, 2011 at 2:55 am

I came across this detailing people’s experiences abstaining. Check it out. http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/0.BENEFITS.pdf

Parker May 27, 2011 at 5:17 pm

This is an article that pretty much validates something I felt like I’ve known along. Long time ago a friend of mine was worked up about talking to a girl he likes and planned to masturbate the day before going up to her. I instinctively said “don’t or you might lose your sex drive. Then you won’t be able to talk to her as effectively.”

It was a response that came out of nowhere and this article reminds me of that spontaneous wisdom I shared with him.

In my personal experience, I do notice how introverted I become for the next few days after I freshly fap. I wasn’t always shameful about it until it became an excessive habit, and I think it is only THEN when it affects your life. After fapping, I would require 2-4 days to recover while being stuck in an apathetic rut.

I almost went a month without masturbating one time and I found myself being more willing to engage in social situations. I even became comfortable talking to my family for long bursts of time without trying to find things to occupy myself with in between silences. Silence just felt natural. I also tend to slow down my speech the less I fap, I feel a lot less anxious to get from one moment to the next.

I’ve recently rebooted and I think I’m on my 10th day of abstinence. I hope to completely quit from this point on and see if I can regain the clarity that’s been missing the past few years.

Parker May 27, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Though I gotta ask…would abstinence help me regain lost size or at least help maintain stiffness? Also, does abstinence have anything to do with your endurance and how long you can go? Because overfapping over stimulizes your nerves and so gets used to earlier and earlier releases.

Kambe June 2, 2011 at 9:10 am

Scientists and westerners praise the habit of masturbating. They claim that its healthy and normal.
In the beginning masturbating looks good. But with time you will realize that you have spoiled your body and you will regret it.
it will affect negatively your life in all aspects;
a) Social life:
-You will avoid people including your family members.
-You will avoid to talk to the opposite sex
-You will be alone without friends
b) Memory problems
-You will have difficulty to concentrate intellectually and slow to learn
-Serious Loss of memory
C) In marriage
-You will not satisfy sexually your partner since you will not have a strong erection(Risk of divorce)
-Impotence
d) Health
Masturbation has a serious health implication:
-Blurry vision
-weak immune system( i suspect that it can even make some one to test HIV+) am still researching on this.
-Rushes…

-Y

JP June 2, 2011 at 9:58 am

How and why does masturbation effect memory? I’m not disagreeing as from what I read I think I heard that before but I don’t understand why there is a connection. Why would masturbation effect memory? What’s the reasoning behind the body doing that? That’s something that’s hard for me to personally tell since I had memory problems both before and after masturbation.
So I had quit masturbation for a couple of weeks? there. Well, I did masturbate some but made sure not to go to orgasm till one night I accidently went too far. It seemed to take me a little longer to get the effects than others did but yes there was more energy and more achievment power inside the body. Sex drive was stronger and I felt/knew like I would cum sooner and there were more than a few times where all I could think about was women.
I actually never masturbated till I was 18 or over, than masturbated too much for years and years afterwards. Part of me would always search for info because I was wondering if it truly effect my energy levels (I love to exercise) +I had a bad feeling and some logical thoughts that it might be bad for you but I could never find info that it was actually bad for you. I mean if you look around for info on masturbation and lazy you will find most people saying BS to that with the possible exception of extreme masturbation. There is a funny animation PSA series on youtube or there was I can’t find it anymore where it warns about how you’ll get lazy, won’t be interested in females etc if you masturbate and almost all comments are on the video being way off. Thanfully, I heard from a few knowlegeable people while researching that this stuff can hurt you. So it’s good to find some information on this that validated my thoughts. I’m now on another non masturbation journey.
Why does it effect memory though?

kambe June 6, 2011 at 6:06 am

How overmasturbation affect the brain:
As i always say. Masturbating is bad.very bad.consequenses are unbearable with time:
Frequent masturbation and ejaculation will stimulate the acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions. Excessive masturbation and ejaculation can, and often times will, result in over-production of sex hormones and neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin. An unnatural abundance of these hormones and neurotransmitters can cause the brain and adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion, in turn, making the brain and bodily functions perform at an extreme level. In other words, there is a huge change in body chemistry when one masturbates excessively. This leads into

Premature Ejaculation
and other frustrating sexual side effects.

While the normal physical “It takes at least 12
to 14 minutes for women to climax”
response for a man is to reach climax and ejaculate approximately 2 to 3 minutes after penetrating the vagina, the normal physical response for a woman is to build to a climax (orgasm) about 12 to 14 minutes after coitus (intercourse, sex) occurs. Some premature ejaculation cases are easy to diagnose, especially when the man ejaculates before he even enters a woman. In relationship terms, premature ejaculation can be diagnosed as ejaculating before the woman has an opportunity to orgasm. This is what over-masturbation can lead to – a disappointed woman and an unconfident man. but the man can also suffer from impotency,weak erection, chronic fatigue,blurry vision,weak immunity like that of HIV+ people,month dryness,…and many other serious side effects.
kambe

JP June 6, 2011 at 6:59 am

Ok, being shy around women I do not know if I have PE or not but it was always a concern of mine. Now one hears about how PE in a good percentage of men but I have always wondered what is the true amount of time a man should last with a woman? If someone’s body is in good shape all around, how long would they last on average? Is it supposed to be a shorter time as a way of nature making sure you impregnant and reproduce quickly? Or is it supposed to be hopefully longer because like as you mentioned in your post it takes longer for the woman to a climax. So shouldn’t we as guys be able to last approximately that long in order to satisfy our lady more? Looking at it from a biological standpoint, it would keep her more attracted to you which in turn would mean more chance for preganancy because hey it can take more than one time to get pregannt:) I wonder what the true amount of time a guy should last with women.
It’s interesting you mentioned PE because I was just recently reading that mercury when present in the system gives you PE. I’m also thinking back to a time I was taking something and if that helped me with staying power. I have ordered a herbal product and am curious to see the results of it.
So yeah, Kambe what do you say is the proper amount of time a guy should last with his lady? Also, what do yo think of the health effects of smaller amounts of masturbation? Thanks for your time.

Some dude June 17, 2011 at 2:10 am

I’ve heard a lot of things about the good effects of not masturbating for several weeks, but I’ve never gone more than a week without doing it. One thing I’ve heard is that your neuro-chemical state changes your pheromones and makes you more attractive like that.

I’m currently trying to go for 30 days. I’ll be able to do that because whenever I have the urge to masturbate, I watch videos of surgery and abscess drainage on Youtube instead. I’m currently on the third day.

I’ll report my findings when I’ve done that. In the mean time, I’ve found these things in the past:

Before an orgasm, without deodorant, I smell alright except for light musk. Right after an orgasm I smell fucking rancid.

The day after an orgasm, I’m far more likely to go into a “oh god everyone hates me and is only pretending to like me” state the next day. I’m also much less motivated to do something like working out.

Day two after an orgasm, those two things are much less likely.

Day three after an orgasm is basically more motivation and being more emotionally positive instead of emotionless or depressed. This increases in the following days.

Some dude June 18, 2011 at 2:13 am

Well, I masturbated yesterday from lack of willpower.
Today I’m completely depressed.
Par for the course.

Parker June 21, 2011 at 4:43 pm

To Some Dude: LOL watching videos of surgery. That’s genius! When “think unsexy thoughts” just doesn’t work :D

Joe Big June 29, 2011 at 5:34 am

I’ve gone an entire year without a single drop of seed spilled. My bf was 7 percent, instead of 14 percent, I was able to remember pages of information at a time, and I was able to run faster, and my vertical increased 4 inches. Not only that, but I could have my way with any woman, married or not, girlfriend, you name it, they would eat out the palm. Something to do with the etheric body, and a breathing secret I discovered. I would share it, but absolute power corrupts.

JP June 29, 2011 at 10:03 am

I assume if you didn’t drop any seed, you didn’t have sex either?
Share absolute power just with me! I want to corrupt absolutely!
“Think about what people who abstain, especially in the army etc. for like a year. They lose all interest in it. I have read this many times. Soldiers report of having lost the urge to have sex”

This was written earlier in this thread. That worries me but you had the oppisiste effect which is great to hear. Before I started masturbating too often I never masturbated at all. Probably never did untill I was 18 or so. I am trying to remember how I felt. I know I didn’t lose interest in sex but maybe that’s impossible when you’re a teenager.
A couple of questions for you. Before you went the whole year, without dropping you seed how much information could you remember? Also, could you have women eating out of your palm if you weren’t flirting with them? Just from your presence?

A couple more

Joe Big June 29, 2011 at 8:52 pm

I’ll tell you what. I was a straight A student in highschool. There came a time though, after smoking for some time, that my life started falling apart. The way i stopped smoking cigarettes was to stop masterbating. I was edgy and almost went to jail several times, but eventually i did lose interest so to speak, but rather than lose it, it was at my command.

The sex function and all addiction are intertwined. This is just the nature of man. The first chakra is about sex. When we eat, a few hours later, we feel like having sex….sex is there, but we have to bring the energy up. You may not get rich, but you will get better in whatever it is you want to do. You will feel like you have add at first, you may change radically, even occupations. But in the end, you will be able to feel your soul and know the spirit of a matter. This is where the power comes.

Joe Big June 29, 2011 at 8:55 pm

it improves memory but it also makes it hard to initially memorize because of fighting the urge, you have to do it without repressing, does that make sense?

“Say, I want it, but i don’t need it”

JP June 30, 2011 at 8:32 am

I never was normal growing up. I’m still not. I was an extremely shy nerd (am a lot better now as I have worked on that but still am pretty shy) but yet had alpha male traits that I wasn’t supposed to have.

For the last month, I’ve been keeping a small journal every day on how I feel and what was the circumstances leading to that. So when and I masturbated and when I haven’t is definitely part of the observations. Yes, there is a difference when you do and when you don’t masturbate. This time I have gone 5 days without so far without orgasming and now I plan to go a lot further. I am pretty energetic and determined this morning.
To contribute some energy life advice here, I highly, highly reccomend people eating more organic raw food and leaving out all the processed junk. All the man altered stuff. This makes all the difference in the world in how you feel. Trust me on this. It’s very important to do this if you want to be the best person you can be.

After my own observations and a lot of reading on what attracts/repels women, I find it fascinating how much of us actions as humans are rooted from the tree of reproduction. If one thinks of the roots and the base of the tree as the need to reproduce, you will find that the branches or actions of we humans are results of the roots/base of the tree. Reproduction is the foundation. That was one of the reasons I decided I had to cut down on masturbation.
Okay, off to the gym I go:)

JP June 30, 2011 at 10:06 am

Placebo or not I swear I can feel more power in my testicles today. I’m determined. I’m also feeling mentally alert (though I am tired from lack sleep and I can really feel that) in a different way.

I’ve had trouble with self sacrifice in the past. Anybody here ever beat this problem while not masturbating?

mentisafer June 30, 2011 at 7:58 pm

i’m still reading the real donnie darko site and though long and confusing at times, it’s been enlightening respecting the negative effects of orgasm; not only that, through this and other readings and personal experience, now in my thirties, i’ve come to the conclusion that celibacy is a plus. But real abstinence not for the sake of sex, and not thinking about it; that’s where real “not-masturbating”is. You will be really amazed when you realize how much more powerful you become from a day of not even thinking about sex (hence the role of meditation) as compared to two weeks without it but thinking of it. The deal is that that’s is mental masturbation, and it definitely affects the physical, you will produce those hormones, the organ will get flooded with blood, your chemistry will change and energy will sip away from your organs; not only orgasm is bad, also thinking of sex will release valuable chemicals and fluids from your body, for instance through the urine, without going into more complicated detail.
Just experiment a few days of total-abstinence, it begins and continues in the mind, fending off temptation after temptation like flies: don’t look at that ass, look about something else, do something else, make a difference, change…you’ll notice something…

Jimbo July 2, 2011 at 5:41 pm

Much like any other drug, the addiction to porn and chronic masturbation is a modification of brain chemistry.
One of the ways to control these urges to masterbate is limit the sexual stimuli that are so accessible through the internet. It is important to remove the easy access to pornography and images that trigger you.

What has worked for me is to use Picblock http://www.cinchworks.com/ . You must not only block the imagery but the sexual content words to block all of the porno websites that are videos only. Set long password to protect yourself that you can’t remember… write it down and store the paper at work or somewhere that is not easily accessible.

Green July 4, 2011 at 12:24 am

There is some validity to this hypothesis. I’m currently into day 4 without whacking it and I feel strong. I have hit on tons of women (usually I’m a tad shy or rely on jokes) but they are incredibly receptive and many (the attractive or confident ones) flirt back. In fact I’ve got a date with a really attractive and intelligent woman. That never used to happen. Intelligence used to intimidate me (and it turned me off) but currently it doesn’t bother me. In fact I find her incredibly desirable. Both physically and emotionally.
Women stare at me more often as well. I wonder if the extra testosterone biochemically attracts females (kind like pheromones in bees). There is more to it than physical attraction though. I run faster, bowl (cricket) a lot quicker, lift stronger and I picked up a language (Japanese, lol). I haven’t turned into an elite athlete in 4 days but I am noticing a significant improvement. In 4 days I’ve become more energetic and open to experience (life that is). In terms of health I think I have better posture, my hair seems healthier, my acne improved drastically and my tinea on my right foot has nearly disappeared.
Why though? Possibly the depletion of zinc during frequent masturbation led to the health issues. The addiction (self proclaimed) may have shot my self esteem as well. The reward systems in the brain are hijacked by porn which may have developed an unhappy attitude. Also, abstinence has given me extra energy which is directed into something positive. It can’t be masturbation alone that has had such an effect as I have also worked on my diet for months and for the past year I have been exercising frequently (as opposed to sporadically). Nevertheless it seems frequent masturbation is unhealthy.

Shy_and_Modest July 5, 2011 at 5:06 pm

Interesting article. So, I am a female, and I just broke up with someone (long-distance relationship), and I had not been physically touched in 7 months by a man and I had not masturbated in four weeks. I really missed the touch of a man. This past weekend I masturbated before I went out to the club, and guys were all over me. Safe to say…I got touched. I never do things like this at all. I am usually shy, reserved, and a very modest dresser and was not looking to get any action. I was kinda horny but not to the point where I usually am. I definitely stepped out of my comfort zone and all of the guys were really forward. I must have been on my A game, but I definitely think masturbating before hand really helped. I will have to try it again to see if there is a trend.

So I think this is interesting. I was looking for more of a scientific article about phermones and how scents from that area can attract members of the opposite sex.

JP July 5, 2011 at 9:36 pm

JoeBig, when you went a whole year without dropping your seed, did you notice any differences within you due to that like say at the 2 week mark, 1 month mark, 2 month mark and so on? Is going 11 months any better than say going 3 months? Did the positive effects plateau after a certain bit? Were they any negative effects? Was there any or much variance?

Since I never masturbated till I was 18 I myself went years without purposely extracting (unintentionally yes) my seed. But I never took notes on how I felt before and after I started masturbating because at the time I didn’t realise how much of a difference it could make. , I wish I did take notes. I never was normal. I was a strong nerd combined with alpha male traits. Two different people.
Now that I think about it, I think part of the reason girls liked me even though I could hardly mutter one word to them was because I didn’t masturbate. I also had an explosive temper at times which was different coming from such a quiet person. I still always felt in control though but I know I must have scared a few people. I had that after masturbation too but I think it might have lessened.

Currently 10 days without dropping my seed.

JP July 5, 2011 at 9:45 pm

Explosive temper but I never hurt anyone

David Moss July 17, 2011 at 4:20 pm

Really glad to have come across the 2003 study via this. Nevertheless, it’s worth noting that the increase isn’t 147%, it’s 47%, or an increase TO 147% of baseline, not an increase BY 147%. Namely, testosterone increases from around 374ng/dL to around 524ng/dL, not from 374 to over 1000.

Getting There July 18, 2011 at 12:07 am

I am on day 3 and I have to say I have been completely changed by this already. for years now I have certainly over indulged in masturbation and coming to this site made me immediately reconsider what I’ve been doing.
Sadly I’ve felt almost desperate to find a nice girl (or two) right now and I have not felt good about it recently. I got laid two months ago and kissed with a few hot girls since then, but I want more.
At work tonight I was on fire. I work with a lot of cute girls and tonight I was on cue, I was not anxious and basically pitiful mentally as I feel I can sometimes be. I could feel my energy orientating through everyone else. I was oozing postive energy. My energy level was through the roof. Earlier today when i sat down to read I felt much calmer and better able to comprehend the book
It really is interesting and invigorating. I am going to stick with this for a while and probably use the 7 day cycle.

Joe Blow July 18, 2011 at 11:47 pm

Great post, great comments.

I’ll add: if you must masturbate, use a sex toy, like the Fleshlight. I’m not sure why guys settle for their hands when their are toys out there now that actually come close to simulating a vagina. I guess it’s taboo, and that’s a shame.

Apply the 7-day cycle, but replace your hand with a sex toy (Fleshlight, pocket pussy, etc).

Philippe July 27, 2011 at 12:36 pm

Still a glitch in my precedent message, here the good one (I hope) :
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Good post indeed, I think it’s a good summary of many men experience. I would like to add something. (maybe it have already been noted, I did not read all comments)

Maybe their is a difference between masturbating to porn and masturbating using your imagination (in your mind). I have experienced with this and masturbating to porn is a very rapid and genital only experience while masturbating with your mind is a much longer, realistic and whole body experience. That would explain why some people say that masturbation make them to cum too rapidly when they have real sex, they develop the habit to have genital only and less complete sex.

The father of bioenergy, Alexander Lowen, wrote a great book about sexuality, Love and Orgasm. He speak about mature sexuality, love and also explain his view of homosexuality. He describe neurotic sexuality to be genital centered with a tense and hard body as opposed to mature sexuality to be whole. To me his view of neurotic sexuality resemble a lot to porn masturbation.

I also experience many thing you mention, especially motivation and social anxiety wise. Would be great to have best of both world.

Mr July 28, 2011 at 4:25 pm

Great post,
I went through that this whole week. No masturbation. I compared it to how my lifestyle was before : crazy change !!!
It really builds up gradually. But already after two days, you can feel the energy filling your whole body. I am much more productive and I feel much stronger mentally and physically. I felt like I could take anyone into a fight ! I managed to exercise with more strenght, it really feels like your muscles are stronger.
And with relating to people, it is so much easier to have this alpha male aura surrounding you. You don’t even have to do much, people can feel it.
It was definitely a good experience for me.
I’m changing to a 7 days cycle from now on for at least three months to see how things go.
testosterone increase wanted : “This is spartaaaaaa !!!”

Kristian August 3, 2011 at 5:16 am

This is intresting, I am trying to achieve 40 days no-mastrubation. But I still look at porn, how does porn damage you if you watch it without masturbating.

I will update my 40 days of no mastrubation

JP August 3, 2011 at 8:06 am

Good question. I’m at the computer a lot and I do take a look at porn once in awhile plus sometimes I’ll put an erotic picture up as motivation. I went about 21 days without orgasming until I went too far one night.
Now I’m at 15 or 16 and I’m feeling postive effects. I actually feel more horny this cycle than I did last time. I did masturbate 2 or 3 times but didn’t orgasm. Looking forward till yor 40 day update.

lover August 3, 2011 at 3:48 pm

hey there guys, im trying to abstinate for 30 days and im about at 10 days. when younger i used to masturbate way too much and i had all the side effects. I reduced a bit last year but i want to try abstaining and i also have PE.

Philippe Pomerleau August 3, 2011 at 8:21 pm

I don’t want to hijack this thread but I think that this is misleading. The whole point is not to stop to masturbate but to stop to masturbate to porn.

Sex is an oportunity to connect with our body, to experience deep breath, to feel present. This is what usually happen when you make love with a woman. When you do masturbate in front of porn, your experience is genital only, in fact you disconnect from your body. In lact of a partner, the best alternative is to make love to a woman in your mind. Your experience will be different, but this will be much closer to real sex than what porn can give you.

I do not have that much of experience with this, but my little experience show me that this is better like this. I feel more grounded and more present and I can do it everyday. To refrain from masturbating is not the way to go in my opinion. Sex is a wonderful tool if use rightly. Many people have experienced psychological side effects after long abstinence (those who followed Mantak Chia teaching on the subject for exemple).

After all, what can you make feel more men than to picture yourself making love to a women ?

Gregory B August 5, 2011 at 6:43 pm

The more you masturbate the less interest you have in going out and getting sex from a real girl. If you are fulfilling that need or at least part of it by yourself, you are less likely to go out and seek a girl. That has been my experience. If you take care of yourself one night you probably will not go out that night because the reason you were going out is to get sex, get that release. If you masturbate before going on a date you will act more beta, because you do not have that drive in you.

Philippe Pomerleau August 6, 2011 at 10:37 am

Does any men really need to stop to masturbate for one week to desire a women ? I think that inner well being is more important for us to easily approach women and that “healthy masturbation” help a lot with this.

I don’t do this to be right, only want to share something that is the result of a lot of struggle for me. Something that may not be at first appealing as porn or nor as easy but that pay in the long run. As it is with a lot of drug consumption.

I hope someone will try it and report back his experience (see my previous post). Everyone is different and experience may vary though.

Andy August 8, 2011 at 4:40 am

For me personally,. I noticed a huge increase in my agressive behavior in addition to the increased hornness. Irritability as a side effect was also pronounced. both of these were more intense after the first week of continued abstinence though.

Thanks for the article. I’m gonna give the 7 days thing a shot for as long as I can keep it up and see how it goes for me. In addition, I won’t watch any porn when I jerk it.

Woohoo! I won’t be masterbating to any girls on a computer screen getting fucked by other guys! n maybe I’ll *whisper* even get laid!

Lance August 16, 2011 at 12:51 pm

The longest I’ve gone without masturbation is nine months. The first two months in my opinion were the most challenging; the last seven months were fairly easy.

Masturbation and ejaculation is mentally and physically draining. Without masturbating for nine months, physically I felt good. My mind felt sharp but I also became more emotionally solid. There was a big difference in my emotional state, which doesn’t surprise me considering the hormonal impact masturbation has.

John August 18, 2011 at 11:37 am

This has been an intersting read. Since I spilt with my ex last September I have been knocking one out far too often to the point where I wasn’t really bothering to get laid. After a siz month drought I thought enough is enough and have managed to hookup with a very hot lady with a very open mind and healthy appetite. My problem has been that despite feeling horny as hell just at the thought of her I was having problems getting and maintaing the necessary equipment and I was taking an age to finish. The latter part wasn’t a problem for her but very frustrating for me so after reading this I’m going to give 7 days a try but the thought of seven days???, I can’t recall managing more than three………..

Chase August 22, 2011 at 9:15 pm

Last week I watched a re-run of Blue Mountain state, a comedy about a college football team, and one of the players had a vision and was told to abstain from any sort of pleasure for a week. He did and he became this amazing testosterone run machine and was just wrecking everyone else on the team. And was wondering if this has any truth to it or if they were just over exaggerating how it worked. So i guess what I’m asking is, does being celibate also increase your strength, anger or anything like that as well?

A L August 23, 2011 at 2:54 am

On day 8, and having trouble getting to sleep and staying asleep. I feel great during the day but as the day winds down I start to get uncomfortable, I get mild headaches and become restless through the night. Any ideas on how to get a good nights rest?

Viktor August 23, 2011 at 3:49 am

Just the post I was looking for. I have been searching for this kind of information but always wound up with information that masturbation is calming and whatnot and is recommended to be practiced. Recently I started to change my life in a big ways and after I decided to quit watching porn I felt motivated to find more information about masturbation and then I found this site.

It is now about 4th day of my abstaining and I am feeling great. No more timid, anxious, beta, at least a lot less then I used to feel like. I will probably abstain for about 10 days or bit more to see all the effects it can have on me.

While searching for the effects of porn on man I found very interesting article that has the similar quality as this post and will possibly be interesting read for someone out there:
Pornography’s Effects on Adults

Rashad August 25, 2011 at 2:07 pm

This was great. Personally, the reason I quit masturbating FOREVER was for the following two reasons:

1) It demotivated me from actually pursuing women, as you wrote about
2) The feeling of having sex is so much more satisfying than jerking off.

In regards to my first point, I love the feeling of having all this built up sexual goodness inside of me just waiting to explode and drench a woman. It makes me feel like Im doing them a service in saving myself for them. They should be thankful.

As for number two, after masturbating I think to myself, “I just sat here for about an hour with my d*ck in my hand looking at smut. I could have been doing so many other productive things.” Its always UNsatisfying those few moments of orgasm. With a woman is a different story. Its ALWAYS satisfying and Ive never thought I could be doing something better. Having an orgasm as a result of direct female contacts beats your hand ALL THE TIME!

Pedro August 30, 2011 at 1:59 pm

Well in fact I’ve had a semi – mandatory 7 day jerk off routine, because of bootcamp.
Since there wasn’t much privacy involved, and I didnt fancy jerking off while some other guy was on the wall next to me taking a shit or something, I would wait for the weekend to do it. I can’t explain why, but I think the fact i was doing so much physical exercise, trying new things and not masturbating, all this combined, gave me a sort of iron will that made me want to do things that were productive all the time even after bootcamp had long gone.

So I conclude now that, 7 day ( ish) routine for self love + regular sleeping patterns + regular exercise + hard work + proper diet = awesome feeling of motivation: In fact, im going to start doing all this again. Thank you for the article, it has given me some amazing insight on my life.

Ychromasome September 4, 2011 at 9:03 am

I am waking up to day six of no masterbation. I can vouch for the majority of these statements, I am obviously more horny, and in the past three days, I’ve had more women responsive/approach me than I have in the past two years combined. I am what you call a chronic masterbator, started when I was about fourteen years old. I am 31 now an I have NEVER made it to 6 days with out shooting my load out. The mental clarity is real (including visualization of my now empowered sexual imagination). Shits crazy. The pheramone thing must be legit, I feel like Fuckin Superman.

Getyourheadright September 5, 2011 at 4:06 am

I first read this post one week ago and on reading its title I thought it would be just another random blog that would have little relevance to my life. However on reading the various posts of contributors I was taken aback at firstly how frank people were and secondly how changing their masturbation habits affected them. This lead me to reflect on my own situation.
I never really thought too much about my own masturbation habits. I always considered it a private and normal thing but never something that ever really affected the way I thought, acted or behaved generally.
I no longer think that way and its only been about 4 days.
Looking back at my own habits I now have to say that I would have to categorize myself as a chronic masturbator. Ever since that first mind bending, life altering wank in the bathroom before school scarcely a day had passed when I didn’t ‘knock one out’ Scrap that. ‘Knock a few out’ . Save for several years in my teens I can honestly say that most of it has never been born out of a high sex drive. Boredom was probably the number one culprit but couple that with a baron sex life until I was in my early twenties and I ended up with a fruitless marriage of convenience between my dick and my hand. Also having read some other posts I’m now convinced my excesses are to blame for dull, limp sexual encounters.
Being 31 now and spent the last 2 years travelling the world I do feel myself at some sort of crossroads. Life for me has always been about ‘someday’ or ‘sure i’ll do that tomorrow’. when you reach 30 you do feel your time is more finite and that there is no ‘someday’. Only now. Masturbation perfectly accommodated this mindset allowing me crap sexual gratification which lead no where.

So how is the de-wanking experiment going? Currently not the life altering experience that taking it up was, but I dont think it ever will be. So far its been about not falling back on that fail-safe dopamine hit that always lead to inaction and trying to put my mind to better use. I’m not surprised that I think about sex alot, but what I am surprised about is the number of times my mind suggests an act of onanism.
I look forward to hopefully experiencing some of the effects I’ve read about. watch this space.
I know my post was long-winded but this is honestly the 1st time I’ve ever contributed to a blog.

Anonymous September 12, 2011 at 2:33 am

Posting with Anon and dummy e-mail for irrelevant stuff…

But, I think this article just solved all of my problems.

Vic September 15, 2011 at 2:21 pm

I completely agree with this 100%. I started masterbating at the very early age of 7 years old. I masterbated everyday, sometimes more than twice a day until I was 18. I never got laid in high school and I never had the desire to. I was never really ambitious about doing anything. I just stayed home all day and masterbated. I felt sort of akward around people, and I always wanted to be alone. Then one day I finaly got laid. I wanted more of that but didn’t really pursue it much, because I was still masterbating. Then I heard my friend talking to one of his family members. He said he felt bad because he couldn’t help himself from masterbating. Now, my friend wasn’t the most attractive guy in the world, but somehow he almost always got laid by attractive chicks. That’s when I thought to myself, “Is that the secret? To not masterbate”? So I gave it a shot. I quit coled turkey, and it was soooooo frustrating. I was always mad, and I couldn’t stand still. After a week, it became much easier. I noticed that I was more active and confident around not only attractive females, but all people. I would start making moves on females that I would never make moves on before. I eventually ended up being in a 2 year relationship with a super attractive chick, that I would never in a million years have the guts to even look at for to long during my masterbation days.

Yes masterbation is normal and everybody does it, but just stop for a while. Get over the frustation part of it, and witness how much more confidence you have in your everyday life.

jason stathom September 20, 2011 at 9:10 am

Everybody has a different set of genes. We are different. Some people have to marry lest they burn inside. Others are somehow able to abstain, even their whole lives without any problem. Some had to work at it all their lives. The sex thoughts for some completely dissapear. It is a conscious choice. Others are just that way. Masturbating is healthy in extreme moderation but it is not the purpose of our purpose. Love is. Over sex is eqaully unhealthy.
Stopping and holding thus abstaining from climax can if extended too often cause the developement of spermidicells which are small balls that develop right on your balls. They can cause pain or other complictions.

Rashad September 21, 2011 at 5:58 pm

Sadly, I relapsed last week but Im back on it again and its been about 4 or 5 days now. But it feels different now. When I initially started I felt the horny tingling in my balls when a good looking girl walked by but I dont have that now. I dont know what the deal is. I used to welcome that feeling because it made me more aggressive with the ladies but its gone. It seems as tho Im losing my sex drive this go around. The once positive aspects of masturbation (being more aggressive with women for one) is gone…

Pete September 26, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Holding off for a week is not going to do jack shit! You don’t start to reabsorb your semen making you strong, brave, heroic, and manly until after 3 months of semen retention.

I usually retain 21 days t0 90 days.

I’m currently on my 26th day and I feel incredible.

Jman October 1, 2011 at 5:55 am

Savage, I am absolutely impressed that I wasn’t the only one in the world thinking this. A couple years back I noticed that the common denominator in some of my short comings as a person was pretty much jacking off too much. So I stopped for a while. I went to parties, got some punani, and got amazingly fit. And so I freaking love you for making this public. On a side note, my dandruff reduced considerably when I stopped, so if anybody’s got chronic dandruff problems, try this!

Rashad October 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Damn, it feels good to be going strong on this one again. Its been about a week now and Im mentally committed to this FOREVER. My problem was that I would look at porn “just because” and told myself I had no intention of jerking off. That would happen several times without me actually masturbating then I would relapse and I would relapse hard. For me, if I dont have that visual online stimulus I dont care for masturbation. I only want to masturbate when I look at porn, never if Im blue balled or something. So for me the fix is easy, remember the reasons why I want to stop and find other things to do with my free online time. COLD TURKEY and I aint lookin back fellas.

Mhollerho Abimbola Enoch October 13, 2011 at 3:42 am

Masturbation is SELF ABUSE. it will undoubtedly reduce your self esteem and self worth, even if you do not agree, it is still the truth. it is in no way a substitute for good sex.. feeling sexy? find a beautiful chic, suck her out, give it to her hard and wild and feel great about yourself… rather than stroking urself out. MASTURBATION is for the BETA MALE, d weaklings. The ALPHA MALE needs sex and does it with a pretty chic that is worthy of his semen. Thank you

Jay October 14, 2011 at 10:34 am

This definitely makes a lot of sense. Thanks Matt for making this public. I’ve had a lot of free time so I’ve been “fapping” haha pretty much every day and I felt horrible. Although other factors in my life may have made it conducive for sadness and depression, I feel fapping made it much worse and allowed these feelings to perpetuate. I’m on day 3 and I’m committed.

Kind of like the movie 40 days and 40 nights where every girl starts to want Josh Hartnett (forgot the characters name) after he starts abstaining, I guess the pheromones really start to work on women.
Though I hate using examples in movies, this is applicable.

To answer some peoples concerns, I feel that jerking off is necessary at times. Anyone who can get some whenever they want a the snap of a finger is a GOD. Maybe some people can but most definitely not me.

I always look at girls in a sexual way but I suspect itll increase now. Has anyone noticed this happening a lot more after abstaining?

Hopefully my abstinence can carry over to other parts of my life and start to lift my spirits.

Yes October 17, 2011 at 7:37 pm

Yea your right Jay, it will increase now. I was able to do 6 days and I was just looking at everything. Since then I haven’t been able to stop. I want to go for 2 weeks – a month but its hard. I ve already broken it 3 times since I have last tried.

Going to start again and hopefully I can get whacking off out of my head.

Rashad October 19, 2011 at 11:35 pm

Jay,

It WILL carry over to other parts of your life. Firstly, you’ll just feel more complete and self satisfied by knowing you have control over your mind and your body. That in itself will translate positively into every aspect of your life.

I felt like you after masturbating, just worthless and sad sometimes and knowing that feeling will come is an extra motivator to not masturbate.

Keep strong fellas. Lets do this!! Were men, we aint children who fall at every sign of temptation.

Luis October 20, 2011 at 8:44 pm

Study: Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence.

“These effects were observed both before and after sexual abstinence. In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.”

Swema October 21, 2011 at 10:25 am

Positive aspects (after 7 days):
-Increase in motivation to whatever I focus my mind on
-Increase in happiness, finding random shit funny
-More social
-Social anxiety reduced
-Smiling more
-I feel more connected to people around me
-I feel calmer and I can focus alot better than before
-Easier to stick to routines and doing mundane stuff
-Increase in confidence

As for the negative, mood swingin’ is the only thing I can come up with right.

Abstinence fucking rocks. Seeev your seeemen fur the weeemen. *some random fucked english accent*

Swema October 21, 2011 at 10:26 am

Also, my memory is better!

I also get these strange nostalgia-memory feelings from nowhere!

This guy October 22, 2011 at 8:17 am

I’m also trying this after reading this article, just for the hell of it. I gotta say I haven’t felt so drastic changes as some other people here report. I’m on day six. But today I feel like I had a shitload of caffeine or something, I have this weird pent up energy that I can’t get rid of. It’s pretty uncomfortable actually, but I’ll try to ignore it, since I’m curious to see what (hopefully positive) effects this experiment will have if I continue a while longer.

Pete October 22, 2011 at 7:41 pm

I am on day 53 and I feel more manly, dominant, and aggressive. I also am more charismatic and outgoing. My voice has also gotten deeper. My memory has enhanced. I have skin that’s glowing; and my energy level is higher than ever person inside the room. (besides the kids). I just feel more powerful!

Rashad October 22, 2011 at 7:49 pm

DAMN PETE!!!! 53 days? Nice. Ive relapsed a few times but Im in the 2nd week of it and I will not relapse this time. I sort of had to have a moment of self-conversation to really see the reasons why I was doing this and Ive never felt better.

Rashad October 22, 2011 at 7:50 pm

“This guy”,

That “weird energy” is the initial effect of the lack of masturbating. I know exactly what you mean. Just use that energy and focus it somewhere else, like at the gym.

This guy October 23, 2011 at 4:10 am

>Rashad

Yeah, you’re probably right, and I did think about going to the gym, but decided against it since I had been to the gym the day before and I didn’t want to overtrain. I’m curious to see if I’m gonna have a permanent energy boost from this experiment.

On a side note, I was at a party last night where the host told me that one of girls (whom I had never met) fancied me. I ended up sleeping with another girl, but I was pretty wasted, so the sex was pretty meh for me and I didn’t finish (I can go forever when I’m drunk). I don’t know if my abstinence from masturbation had anything to do with attracting these girls, but I will be sure to look for a patterns in the coming weeks.

Rashad October 23, 2011 at 12:43 pm

This Guy,

There we go! I think not masturbating does help in attraction. I think its a pheromone thing, like these girls can sense that we have all this sexual energy some how. As far as it being a permanent energy, Ive noticed it has its peaks and valleys. You might go for stretches of days with the buzz of energy then one day it may not be as high. Thats how it is for me but it might be diff for you based on what your body chemistry is like.

I just wanted to check in. I have this page bookmarked, HAHA. Back to football. Go Packers!

Dave October 23, 2011 at 11:31 pm

This article is heaven-sent. The article and the comments all concur with my own experiences. I am now 28 years old and have struggled with chronic masturbation since I was around 16. Right around 22, I began losing my hair in the frontal area of my scalp. By age 26, my hair loss accelerated to the crown, and although I still have hair on my head, I have lost considerable amounts. Throughout this time, I masturbated between one and two times a day. Recently, I tried stopping for one week and noticed that less hair was in bathtub after showering. I also felt much more confident, less feelings of insecurity and more virile. I just felt electric. I can only imagine that these feelings get better throughout the months after abstaining. However, I am pretty confident that my hairloss is due to my excessive masturbation, since both of my parents did not lose hair at such a young age. This might be due to abnormal testosterone conversion into DHT, which is linked to hairloss in men.

I have been relapsing off and on throughout the years and hopefully after reading this article, I will have the motivation to stop for a longer period of time. Seeing all of these comments with similar symptoms is all the proof that I need. I will be using my laptop in public versus in private to avoid the temptation to look at porn. I will keep you posted.

Rashad October 24, 2011 at 2:10 pm

Dave,

In all honesty, its easy not to relapse and extremely difficult at the same time. Im sure everyone knows this. The best deterrent is to do what your doing (public vs. private internet use) or just discipline yourself to not go on those sites. The only time I wanna masturbate is when Im searching for it, never anytime else.

Dave October 24, 2011 at 4:34 pm

Rashad,

Thanks for responding. Your absolutely right. Abstaining from masturbation is tough. It really is a chemical addiction per se, not unlike those faced by certain drug users. I’ve had problems with concentration, maintaining erections, mild depression and mood swings. I never realized that far-reaching impact that testosterone and dopamine have on the body. I’m just hoping that these side-effects disappear after a few months.

Although I read articles on alternative medicine websites that discussed the dangers of chronic masturbation, I never took it too seriously, since Western medicine has yet to provide enough conclusive evidence to demonstrate this phenomenon. I should have been more open minded. Check out “sexual exhaustion” while running a Google search.

I’ve never been away from masturbation for more than a week and a half, so I’m not sure what I would experience after that period of time elapses. But I can say with certainty, that after four days of no masturbation, I feel like a different person. I’m far more sociable, creative and productive.

I would always tell myself, I’ll watch porn for 30 minutes or so and promise myself not to masturbate. You know the outcome. At this point, I’m done with porn. It’s not worth the risk now or in the long run. May we both overcome this habit.

Anon. October 25, 2011 at 12:09 pm

I wanted do thank you for posting this article up, this read has encouraged me into abstaining for 2 weeks now, despite being sick I can already tell that i have more energy and more motivation to do activities than I did when i was masturbating every day. not only that but its easier to talk to people and actually be able to carry on a conversation. I’m only 20 years old and I have a lot of patching up to do in my life, and this has definitely put me headed in the right direction, as I’ve been addicted to pornography since the age of 12, and by the age of 16 I barely had any motivation in school (depression) and hardly any motivation to have a girl friend.

My goal right now is to abstain for about 3 months total, and I hope to have gain huge improvements in my lifestyle from doing this. Good luck to everyone struggling with this as well, I wish you all the best.

Robert October 25, 2011 at 5:10 pm

I’ve really been enjoying the last 10+ days of not masturbating or watching porn at all and I feel like I could go on forever.

I, too, have had a lot more energy and motivation to do all kinds of things. I’ve actually found my long gone musical inspiration once again + music in itself has started to sound better and deeper.

Here are some encouraging stories that have really helped me a lot:
http://yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts

This guy October 29, 2011 at 11:06 pm

So I got to day 13 and I couldn’t take it anymore. I went to a party the same night and was pursued very persistently by a girl whom I’m not interested in. There was another girl there who I’ve hooked up with once before and wouldn’t mind hooking up with again, but that was thwarted by the other girl. Oh well. But it seems I was deemed attractive despite the fact that I’d masturbated earlier that day. But it is almost impossible to determine what impact abstinance has on your luck with women, at least when you don’t have more data than I have. I think I’ll start having 7- or 14-day cycles of masturbation abstinence from now on as I did notice some interesting effects on my testostorone, but I don’t wanna go completely “no fap”. Everything in moderation, masturbation and abstinance alike.

Rashad October 30, 2011 at 5:59 pm

This Guy,

Hey man, I understand. The cycling is a good idea also. Ima admit I relapsed last night after coming back from a Halloween party, there was just so much booty out it was insane. Female costume are just the sexy version of something: sexy nurse, teacher, dog etc. No imagination required at all. But Im getting off point. I was gonna post something on here but I felt like I talked myself up so much that posting my relapse (again) would be lame, HAHA. But it was around 12 days for me and I didnt feel any shame in relapsing, I just felt like it needed to be done. Your right, moderation is key and cycling is probably the best bet. The key is just dont let masturbation become your exclusive sexual release. When it becomes your only orgasm…thats when you have the problem.

This Guy October 31, 2011 at 7:08 am

Rashad,

I had the same feeling, I didn’t feel like I had failed when I relapsed either. Seems like we have the same outlook on this subject. It is important, as Modern Savage also writes somewhere, not to think that abstinence is some magic formula that automatically will get us girls. It is merely a tool which for some people can be helpful when used correctly.

JAY November 3, 2011 at 12:18 am

Alrite..

first of all, credit to who deserves it.. yes you Savage..

Now I never had a problem getting women.. I have had sex with over 300 women so far (Im 31 – lost virginity at 17)

Once in high school I stopped fapping for a WHOLE MONTH and to be honest I still remember a little how good and strong I felt..

I either fucked or fapped at least 5 times a week (some exceptions of course – where only had sex and let me tell you it was good now when I think back)

Long story short recently broke a girl’s heart and realized how I have been treating women and need to stop cheating, lying, manipulating women and use them for sex.. along with figuring out where I am in life and everything I wanted to tackle this fapping issue.. I always knew in my heart I shouldn’t..

Anyways, learned alot from this blog and I am stopping cold turkey.. Im bald and skinny but Ima charmer and a sweet talker and that gets me through every woman;s barrier.. Ima natural my friends think.. I am not gonna fap but Im still going to have sex.. still no strings attached but I’ll be honest instead of playing head games..

AND.. I will keep you guys updated.. Its been four days since I last masturbated but I did have sex last night with a cute mommy I picked up last week.. Im going on a work trip to toronto this weekend.. although I got 2 girls lined up there for me, Im NOT going to masturbate.. I usually jerk off EVERY SHOWER so once a day and sometimes twice :p

NoFapEnthusiast November 3, 2011 at 2:39 am

Hey guys, this was an awesome article that gave me some inspiration to abstain from masturbating to see what would happen.

I also suggest you guys check out:

http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap
and
http://www.yourbrainonporn.com

I know some guys are in it for the 7-day cycle, rather than completely no fap, but it’s really awesome to hear the experiences of guys who are already good with women and trying out No Fap. There are a lot of guys on r/NoFap that agree that even guys who are clueless with women, virgins, or forever-alone types are getting ridiculous improvements with their relations with women, myself included, with No Fap.

Thanks!

Rashad November 4, 2011 at 10:18 pm

NoFapEnthusiast,

Thanks for the links, some good info on there. Im now at the point where I want to get back into it full time, as in, no fapping ever (I’m using this word “fap” for the first time in history, never used it before today). I just want to rid my life of porn altogether. Im at the stage in my life where I dont want to be involved with anything that isnt progressing my life forward and I feel like searching for erotica and masturbating grinds my life to a halt for hours at a time. Yes, I relapsed recently and I felt no shame, but that feeling of having mastery over my mind and body is a thrill in its own. I had a high from it, knowing that I had willpower and self control and it translated positively into other aspects of my life. Im back on it fellas. Third times the charm, right? I know what mistakes I made last time and I wont make them again.

Rashad

This Guy November 6, 2011 at 7:40 am

I went to the yourbrainonporn-website and I gotta say it’s pretty convincing. So I’ll also stop watching porn, though it’s gonna be tough.

Blood Of The Wolf November 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm

@ Rashad – Ditto on the “fap” vernacular. I, too, have recently recognized the debilitating, adverse effects masturbation/pornography were having on my life. After over 15 year in slavery and bondage to both I am finally, through knowledge, understanding, wisdom, and the power and strength of Christ, breaking free from the shackles of iniquity and walking out from under the shadow of evil. I had been experimenting with the 7 – day cycle before I even stumble across this website and, after reading these testimonies and stories provided here by all of you, my own experiences have been all but confirmed. I am much, much, more socially adroit not only with women I fancy but with everybody. My axiety is a sprinkle of what it used to be and I can confidently look people in the eyes and carry on a more controlled, intelligent conversation. The boucne in my step has returned. The glow of my skin is luminous. My stuttering has stopped! And the black bags under my eyes have disappeared altogether! I’m more dominant, assertive, and level headed. I attract the attention of women wherever I go and my erections have been bigger and stronger. Women absolutely have some sort of innate ability to sense wether of not a man is already in a relationship with Mary Palm and her five sisters. The pheremone revelation is an interesting one. I should have to look more into it.
Please, if there is anybody reading this who wishes to escape from pornography for good, I am going to recommend you do two (2) things:

1) Repent. Ask God to forgive you and then ask for His help.
2) On youtube.com, watch:
a. “Pornography -Through Jesus’ Eyes-” by fotm1 (Doug Perry)
b. “Porn -Soul Ties- Danger!” by fotm1 (Doug Perry)
c. “Impartation -Transference-” by fotm1 (Doug Perry)

This is not a chastisement of masturbation. I still partake in it, just, not on a 2-5 times per day basis anymore. It is my ardent prayer that these videos will awaken you to the spiritual, mental, physical, and emotional oppression that pornography perpetrates. Go as long as you can without masturbation but do your best to keep it between 14 and 21 days. I myself have never gone beyond 17, but, praise God, what a difference! Next goal: 21 days!

@ Mhollerho Abimbola Enoch – Masturbation really is for the beta male. Don’t settle for second best, men. Be an Alpha Wolf!

Blood Of The Wolf November 6, 2011 at 9:46 pm

@ This Guy – I knwo how you feel. I felt the same way. This is what I found. Porn addiction is just like any other addiction be it drugs, cigarettes, or alcohol. Yes, it is tough to quit on your on sheer will power and strength, but, through the power and might of Jesus Christ which strengthens you, you can do anything. After some weeks of abstaining from pornography, just the mere thought of it turned me off. My attitude towards it did a complete 180. Years of porn abuse was making it difficult for me to get an erection when I was with a REAL women. It’s really not a matter of should you stop. It’s a matter of you MUST stop. For your own overall health and dignity as a man. Check out those videos I suggested above. They really helped me! This, the beginninig, is going to be the hardest for you. An old chinese proverb states “A journy of 1000 miles starts with a single step.” You already took yours. If one man can recover any man can recover! I’m proud of you and will keep you and everyone struggling with this evil at the very center of my prayers.

This Guy November 7, 2011 at 5:30 am

@Blood of the Wolf – I’m not religious, so I’ll have to rely on my own willpower, but thanks anyway:). First time I lasted 12 days. Second time I only lasted four days because I simply couldn’t fall asleep one night and I had to get up early the next day, so in the end I gave in. But this has only strengthened my resolve not to give in this time. This time I’m gonna begin with being fap (and porn) free for the rest of November and see what happens.

Dave November 10, 2011 at 6:21 pm

Hello everyone. This is just an update since my last post. I am on my eighth day of no PMO, and I can say for a fact, it has been incredibly difficult.

Day 1: Mild depression but otherwise no noticeable effects.
Day 2: I felt a gradual spike in my overall mood. I had a difficult time falling and staying asleep.
Day 3: I felt noticeably more horny throughout the day. I still had difficulties falling asleep and staying asleep. I attribute this to withholding from masturbation, which has caused me to be more aroused.
Day 4: I had the day off of work, so I didn’t have an opportunity to gauge my interactions with people. Overall, I did feel more complete and energetic.
Day 5: I had more energy although lack of sleep was noticeable. I was on fire at work. My increase in energy and concentration was definitely felt by the customers at work. A lot of them smiled during conversations and I felt a strange magnetism to girls that I found attractive. There was greater eye contact and a sense of warmth and strength in the pelvic region.
Day 6: I still had trouble getting a good nights rest. My energy levels seem to have plateaued.
Day 7-8: I am hoping that I get back in to my normal sleep cycle, as my sleep deprivation seems to be overriding the increase in energy from no PMO. My level of horniness seems to have subsided just a little. I don’t have the strong urge to masturbate nor do I feel a need to look at porn. It is difficult having to go to work with no sleep and I am proud of myself for not giving in and PMO’ing to put myself to sleep.

I’ve lost a good amount of hair in the frontal region of my scalp as well as lost the strong “clenching”erections of my teenage years. I miss looking at an attractive woman and getting a “full” spontaneous erection. These reasons are enough to motivate me to press forward. As of now, my erections have improved somewhat but no were near the quality during my youth. I still have a long way to go. This is a challenging process for me since I am venturing into unknown territory. There have times when I wanted to succumb to temptation, but I have managed to struggle through it. I envision myself with improved confidence, dating a beautiful woman. That keeps me going. I will keep you posted.

Dave November 13, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Mattias November 21, 2011 at 10:26 am

My teenage years were more about depression, lack of self-confidence, and lots of masturbation than anything else. In my 16th year I pretty much gave up on girls my age and fantasized about underage girls and fantasies escalated to depravity. And it all goes back to my early childhood. Who would’ve guessed, huh? Had to do with shame over being caught playing doctor with a neighborhood girl. Anyway, I wasted my 20′s on sexual fantasy, as an escape, as an easy way out, and instant gratification and suspense. 34 years old now and more or less a virgin. I have had my chances and bed encounters but I have equated sexual settings with social settings and turned off the passion by instinct. Complacent also as to how to actually carry out an intercourse. What’s expected, and what the limits are. Also, the bar for what makes me excited is set high, and I currently need perverted stuff to get a hard-on. Been a Christian for 7 years. Doesn’t really go hand in hand with an unyielding consumption of porn.

Well, I’m on day 3 now. No porn, no masturbation. Yesterday, a little naughty banter with an online girl I know. Didn’t get much of an erection. Voice is getting deep again. Moody. Aggressive, even towards my cat unfortunately. Not noticing an energy surge yet. Hands feel stronger, firmer. Voice increasingly deeper.

I will report back in a few days.

Mattias November 21, 2011 at 10:31 am

Noticed that I used the wrong word in my previous post. I didn’t mean “complacent” but “confused”. English in not my native tongue.

Rashad November 21, 2011 at 1:26 pm

Mattias,

This will definitely help you. Youve said youre already experiencing the effects? Well, put those effects to good use. Join a gym if your more aggressive. Seriously, from your post you dont seem like the gym type, but getting your body in shape will only double, or triple, the effects of giving up masturbation. Once you know how to channel the positive aspects of this thats when you win. Dont relapse for nothing man, its not worth it. Good luck, partner.

Louie November 26, 2011 at 8:02 pm

Alright…after reading ALL the comments on here…I REALLY want to try this. I’m 16 years old, been masturbating since I turned 13. I masturbate everyday. I plan to do the 7 day cycle since I am in powerlifting:P I’m pretty muscular (I got big biceps, triceps and abs) and I weigh 125. I want to be able to do more pounds and look more buffer…so I want to stop because it’s a complete waste of time…and not only that, my left arm is weaker than my right hand? (I’m a lefty…therefore shouldn’t it be stronger??)

Anyway, should I try the 7 day cycle? (Masturbate every Saturday…so since I weight lift and I’m going to start taking whey protein again…Double the testosterone…double the muscle gain? :D)
Or should I stop masturbating completely?

Dave November 28, 2011 at 5:43 pm

Hi everyone,

Unfortunately, I relapsed after 15 days of no PMO. I saw an attractive girl at work today and came home with the desire to look at pictures. The pictures soon turned into pornographic images and it was all downhill from there. It’s a vicious cycle. From now on, I’m going to stay away from images of any kind (short skirts, etc.). In my opinion, even these seemingly tame images can be just as bad as pornography. It’s better to stay away from them all together. It was a foolish mistake on my part, but I am not going to beat myself up over it. I’ll start again today.

Needless to say, those two weeks brought with them an increase in energy levels (overall and in the pelvic region), somewhat harder erections (although not quite where I would like them to be) and more social. There were days however when I felt irritable and wanted to stay away from social encounters. Overall though, during that time, I felt more personable and flirtatious. I can imagine how I would feel if I go beyond a mere two weeks. Wish me luck as I pick up the pieces and continue on this arduous journey. It’s harder than it first appears to be.

TO RASHAD, how long has it been since you last relapsed?

JP November 29, 2011 at 11:13 am

Guys, after abstaining from orgasm but still masturbating for various lengths of time I decided to quit it. I accidently orgasmed a couple of time plus there were a couple of times where I just wanted to orgasm and did.

So now I’ve gone 44+ days without any masturbation at all whatsoever and it’s going to stay that way. I have even watched really limited porn as a test and listened to moaning videos . I enjoy the harder erections over masturbating now. The advantages outweigh the disadvantages abd there is a difference imo between masturbating and no orgasm vs no masturbating at all. The latter being the better.
And yes as DAVE said, everything can be a temptation. I was looking at motivational videos and somebody posted this incredible video of these gorgeous twins. Immediatly favoured!! I have no fear though that I will masturbate again. I’ve given up masturbation forever.

JP November 29, 2011 at 11:20 am

Just don’t start. It’s easier that way because once you start it becomes much more tempting to keep on going.

Mattias November 29, 2011 at 11:34 am

Rashad,

Actually I am an avid gym goer, just not as consistent with it as I should be. I build muscle fast, lift heavy, and feel really good about myself afterwords. I’m kind of going back and forth between the physical and highly sexual mode, and the more contemplative almost asexual mode. Really, the feeling of being in love often override my sexual desires. Which is bad if the girl is borderline oversexed (which most girls are, hehe).

At any rate, I messed up my abstinence routine and fell back after 4 days. Then followed a masturbation spree of 3 days, at the end of which my balls reduced in size some. But actually…I think I’m more geared towards ejaculating 1-2 times a week, because my voice got even deeper the day after my first masturbation. My body seems to produce semen rapidly, but this time around I will wait until my testicles feel rock hard, and then a couple of days more to really max out the testosteron production. So, from today, another abstinence period of at least 4, at the most 7 days. If it works well I might try 14 days for my next period. Wish me good luck.

Mattias November 29, 2011 at 11:54 am

Note to self: Don’t try to resist getting an erection when seeing hot girls or when thinking a naughty thought. If I do resist, this will teach my mind that getting an erection is bad. It’s the frequent masturbating and specifically the ejaculation that’s the problem to combat. So…keep myself busy, look for distractions and…use sheer will power!!!

Rashad November 29, 2011 at 9:49 pm

Dave,

Its been about 3+ weeks since my last relapse. Ive gotten to the point where I have no interest in looking at porn. I really dont. Its weird because the last time I did this my sex drive was through the roof and I ended up relapsing out of frustration, but now it seems to have disappeared. Im still interested in women but porn and beating off isnt my thing anymore.

Rashad November 29, 2011 at 9:57 pm

To Mattias,

Oh ok. Didnt meant or diss you or anything but I just didnt get the gym vibe from your post for some reason. Honestly, you’ll do so much better in the gym now. Whenever I go to the gym and see all those phat booties in those yoga pants it just motivates me to lift harder and fster, HAHA. And since you’ll have that added aggression, testosterone and energy from not jerking off you’ll make even better gains.

To JP,

I feel you man. Ive given it up forever too. Masturbation is the refuge of the lonely man and Im done with it.

Exc November 29, 2011 at 10:11 pm

If you’ve already been masterbating frequently, I strongly recommend to not drop it completely all of a sudden, unless you are getting sexual pleasure from women.
I had abstained for a whole month and a half after I had previously masterbated frequently – usually around 5-10 times a week. Then I felt like challenging myself to 2 weeks abstinence from masterbation. Of course the first few days were difficult, and after the first week it started to become easier to resist. And I completed 2 weeks, and I barely had the urge to masterbate from then on, so I didn’t.
1 and a half months later… n I decide to follow the tips on this page where you reach your peak after about 7 days abstaining, so I masterbated to begin this phase, and it was quite honestly the least pleasurable wank I have ever had in my entire life!
So if you are going to abstain for long periods of time, I recommend cutting down slowly…. So one week, followed by 2, then 3 if u really want to.
However I only did masterbate again to try and reach the peak as it suggested on here, because hopefully I’ll be quite sensitive by the weekend… Which I need to be

hossam December 1, 2011 at 3:57 pm

dude , ive never heard such a powerful article before , god bless you , i ve spent years looking for someone , just anybody that shares the same experience and same thoughts about this habbit and its dangerous effects that is some how not shown directly to the minds of people even doctors , people cant really understand how bad this habbit may lead them to through their lives , destroying social life and sexual life and health , semen is the brains food , not only the brain but also the soul , i am really impressed by the chart you shown us , never heard about it before but its reveals a good secret that motivate people to abstain masturbation and try this out to let them know the secret.

J December 4, 2011 at 4:05 pm

Porn used to be cocaine for me. I had 3 subscriptions going on sites, and just kept feeding into it until one day I’d had enough. I felt sick.

When my last girl found out I’d quit masturbating, she put a lot more into our encounters. She would also blatant about having sex several times a night instead of just once like we used to. At a happy hour her coworker joked “Can I borrow him sometime?”

Jason December 5, 2011 at 1:19 pm

Re: some dude … Haha well done on the surgery videos! One trick for me is I have a folder full of images of cockroaches and cockroach infestations right before my porn folder. Nothing like a vile, disgusting spiny legged cockroach to kill your urge to relapse!

I also make it a point to google “cockroach” every time I have the urge to surf porn on the net. Works like a charm!

Louie December 5, 2011 at 9:31 pm

Guys…does ‘blowing’ a little bit count as a relapse? For example, I have fun with myself then I stop…but I keep on going because I don’t want to have “blue balls” so I just let out a little bit. Not to the point where the whole load comes out and I feel sleepy/exhausted…no. Just a little bit. Does that ruin my 8 days of abstaining? Does it affect the benefits of not masturbating?

Jason December 6, 2011 at 8:22 pm

Louie, I believe that does ruin it. Not sure exactly what you mean by “let out a little bit” but if you feel a little bit of “relief” after, means you’ve probably ruined it. The whole point is to let that energy and testosterone circulate within your bloodstream and to channel that all that power through your muscles, mind and confidence. Letting even a “little bit” out seems to defeat the purpose.

Louie December 6, 2011 at 10:03 pm

I didnt feel relief :o by a little bit, I mean a little bit of “juice” came out instead of the whole load :p But alright I’ll try it once more without relapsing a bit:)

awker December 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm

I started masturbatin wen i was 15, but i cud remember dt d 1st time i did it was blood which came out. I felt it was so bcos of d presure of my hand. I av had it since dt time everytime in d bath and i wouldnt sleep at nite witout it. I dont av any girl frnd cos i dont even no how 2 engage in a talk wt dem. At a time i tried nt to masturbate but dat eventually resorted into porn movies, which has also always ended with mastyrbation. I decided not to ejaculate wen i tot i was loosing to much of semen by holdin my dick at d time i was feelin to really come.. Does,dat also have effect?…what do i do?

Tomas December 23, 2011 at 5:00 pm

I find the problem is ot masturbation per se but being stimulated by pornographic images rather a tease from your girlfriend or your imagination. It is like I feel I was being cheated b/c my effort was wasted.Whereas with your girlfriend or imagination you can interact ,experiment and learn things rather than being in a zombie mode like when watching porn
Regards

Tomas December 23, 2011 at 5:01 pm

I find the problem is not masturbation per se but being stimulated by pornographic images rather a tease from your girlfriend or your imagination. It is like I feel I was being cheated b/c my effort was wasted.Whereas with your girlfriend or imagination you can interact ,experiment and learn things rather than being in a zombie mode like when watching porn
Regards

nonThink January 1, 2012 at 2:31 pm

There is a lot of documented evidence that excessive masturbation is harmful in many ways and I personally agree. You are more likely to get depressed if you masturbate a lot. The one thing that is not mentioned here is that having sex with a woman and masturbating creates very different results. For me masturbation is primarily a stress reliever. I have found that your body knows when you ejaculate in a woman and there is a sense of contentment that you get from that that is not possible to get from anything else. Even using a condom reduces the effect.

I am in completely agreement with your assessment. A 5-7 days cycle is a good balance.

Dare January 2, 2012 at 7:43 am

Personally I have experienced that if I go without wanking for more than 5-7 days, I will relieve myself in a wet dream. May be that was one of the original reasons that after 7 days the testosterone levels fall back.

himynameis January 5, 2012 at 8:32 pm

Oh my god. All of your research is exactly what I thought would happen if I attempted to resist masturbation.

Ramma January 5, 2012 at 9:26 pm

I completely am with you and I have evidences to support this theory. I will give a link later….

bansal January 6, 2012 at 1:15 pm

in my personal experience, abstaining does help a lot. i abstained from masturbation for 8 days and found that my energy levels have boosted up. i used to be a lousy player in every game. lack of confidence, no performance, stupid moves n all. but beleive me, abstaining has made me better in every game, i run longer, bat good and my bowling is almost perfect. believe me guys abstaining helps.
i am now determined to never masturbate again….

seth (@toetyper) January 7, 2012 at 3:30 pm

so where do i fit into all of this?.

i am 39 years old; i have cerebral palsy; i’m a virgin;

i masturbate 2 or 3x a week, i dont go out; meet women or any of that; porn helps but im not addicted

Shawn January 8, 2012 at 1:19 am

Hi guys,
I wanna explain my own experiences,
Actually I don’t have lots of info in medical science but i experienced something which is very amazing.
a few years ago i abstained for more that 3 weeks. in the 3th week i felt that whenever i go the girls are attracted to me and it was very easy to pickup one. even i tried this abstain for my exams and really got good grades. You know, I’m sure that this phenomena gives me more inner energy, so by that I’m more lucky. I’m not sure if I could tell what i want, but i wanna say that in my opinion and according to my experiences keeping away from masturbation gives us more inner energy. in contrast when i masturbate i easily loos my connections with girls. it happened to me several times. As I’m handsome sometimes the girls attracted to me but after making the relationship and as soon as i start masturbating they disappear. I’m sure that there is a relationship between masturbation and Inner energy (Metaphysics).
Does anyone has the same experience?

guys i know the truth January 8, 2012 at 5:25 am

i still masterbate, wank, jerk but not off! ever since i learned about tantriatic or tantra i can beat my meat reach pleassure without depleting protein which is what semen consist of. at least you learn more than self controlll and will have a very interesting sex life with your partners…..so read up!

some observations January 11, 2012 at 9:57 pm

19 days so far so some observations:
-less sleep, down from 7.5 to 6 hours a night
-lots more energy/drive. Will get shit done efficiently
-more time and focus, I’ve read more in these last few weeks than in months
-First week was difficult, 2nd week was easy, 3rd week was a bit more difficult than the last
-Morning periods the most difficult in the 2nd-3rd weeks. However, the urge during the day is essentially gone

FromBrasil January 14, 2012 at 10:27 am

I have suffered from PE since I started having sex. I think this has had to do with my early experience masturbating. The PE has lead to a lack of confidence in my sex life, lack of sexual drive and overall dissatisfaction with sex and relationships.

I started abstaining last week when I started reading The Enlightened Sex Manual by David Deida. I started reading the book because I decided to do something about the PE. In the book David preaches about achieving orgasm without ejaculation. This is the ultimate goal for me.

After successfully abstaining for 4 days I was feeling really good, full of energy and confident. I would have no problem holding off for a few more days as I was channeling my energy into self improvement specially around the areas of meditation and working out (I am currently doing the Insanity program which is super challenging and takes care of all that extra energy). The problem is that last night I had a wet dream. I woke up feeling bad about it because I really wanted to hold out longer.

So my question is, if you have a wet dream does that count as ejaculating through masturbation? Does that mean that I need to reset the day count and start over at day one?

Jake January 14, 2012 at 10:04 pm

I’m relying completely on wet dreams, now. I’ve never had one before, since I’ve been masturbating since I was 11. I’m nearly16 now. i usually masturbate 2-3 times a day. I work out fairly rigorously every day. I do have a question. During puberty I have heard that how sexually attractive you are is determined by how much testosterone or estrogen at puberty for males and females, respectively. So if I jerked off three times a day every day during puberty I probably had low testosterone, right? FUCK ME.

Mattias January 17, 2012 at 5:36 pm

To Jake: I masturbated a lot during puberty, and have always felt like a kid that never grew up. I think I have had low testosterone levels due to the fact that I didn’t let my testicles fill up before I ejaculated. As a result my testicles became relatively small. Been using a light testicle stretching program for the last year to make them hang lower (in combination with abstinence 4-7 days at a time) and…well…my beard growth has increased, voice is deeper, and I’m aggressive (in a good way, not afraid of anyone these days no matter their size). I was an idiot to masturbate so much during youth (34 now) and thus deplete my semen. I didn’t have much guidance, was depressed, and didn’t know how to handle girls, so I gave in to the hand.

Tom January 18, 2012 at 5:43 pm

When I was in school, I once went half a semester without masturbating. I didn’t do much of ANYTHING, actually, because I was REALLY focused trying to maintain a 4.0 GPA. One morning, I looked up from my papers and books and thought I had magical sexual powers like you described. Really, though, it was just my imagination. I was interpreting everything everyone said as a sexual advance. I went around for a few days like this, sweating profusely, flirting with EVERYONE, and on the last day I got an erection that WOULDN’T GO AWAY. I was shaking I was so horny, my clothes were sopping wet with sweat. My pants couldn’t hide it. ALL DAY. I had to go home early. I realized that I hadn’t masturbated since I could remember, so I had a marathon session that night, and my problems went away. This article on Wikipedia describes the psychological symptoms/”sexual powers” I was feeling during those few days very well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy

Mattias January 19, 2012 at 4:29 am

Well Tom, I wish I had erections that wouldn’t go away. It’s been years and years since I could get a full erection from just looking at a sexy girl. My mind understands the sexual attraction but my penis doesn’t get the signal unless I look at really wild porn or fantasize about pretty off-the-wall stuff AND stroke. Anyway, I’m on day 4 now (again) and very moody. Woke up with a medium hard-on this morning. Gonna blow off some steam at the gym.

johnny cool guy January 21, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Great post,

30 y/o male here…I have been struggling with wanking since I was introduced to it from the tender age of 8 by a friend. I look back, I spent most of my high school years awkward and shy, even though I was good looking and one of the best athletes around. I went bald very early… although I am genetically predisposed but noone went bald that early in either side. I did manage to get laid a few times here and there after high school, but nothing was satisfactory and i couldn’t cum from sex and would lose erections frequently. I always have been into “esoteric” knowledge, and I came across something that said men should not waste their semen (jing) and it all made sense to me. I quit for a while, met a nice hot girl and we had great sex…. during this time i was magnetic, i evolved from a guy chicks liked as a friend to a stud… much to the dismay of my ex because i did cheat from time to time. I was just reveling in my new found sexual energy that i never allowed to build up.

Unfortunately, I ended up going back to my old ways, and in sync with that, our sex life decreased and eventually we broke up after 4 years. I was crushed… And instead of giving up this habit I just went head on into porn consumption, and with high speed internet, along with a bad coke habit… spiraled out of control with this. My sexual tastes started getting much more specific and “kinky”. Eventually, I got to the point where I get barely an erection even while masterbating… sex was totally out of the question unless i had some viagra or something… then i was a stud but it still didn’t feel right.

Well, 4 years later, here I am depressed, anti social, nothing going for me and living in moms basement. I have decided once in for all to kick this habit, I know it locks me in a negative state. Anytime I’ve ever given up this habit, good things start happening. It’s not a magic cure but I really feel that you give off a different vibe when your “Full” of your manly energies. I have gone the last 5 days without and immediately i can notice my interactions with girls, and guy to be much better. I a mmuch more relaxed, my voice is deeper, the girls seem to go out of their way to talk/flirt with me. I know they found me attractive before… I dress good, look great for my age despite being bald. I just feel a certain magic/sexual power… like i can seduce any woman and it’s great. I think most people that are saying this is bullshit are just so deluded… denial is very powerful.. few people have the power to look deep within their soul and question themselves. Ego is the destroyer of so many people… lose your ego. One of my best friend has potential to be a great musician, but he also is lacking in some areas and anytime i’ve tried to bring this up to him… he goes into denial or kinda does the in one ear, out the other thing. He will most likely not succeed on his own unless he has a major eye opening.

My personal belief is “they”, the powers that be, want a population of docile schmucks and I think that is why masturbation is encouraged so much. Your weird if you DON’T do it… I feel so much more able to take action ALREADY and it’s only been 5 days into my “rebooting” process. I recommend people check out the website- yourbrainonporn.com It is quite enlightening, and explains how this is truly a bad thing to indulge yourself in on a regular basis without religious dogma or eastern mysticism for you scientific/logical types.
Now, I don’t think there is anything wrong with the occasional tug job, IF you’re not getting laid. If you have sexual prospects you shouldn’t even consider it. It’s not a necessity, you aren’t going to get prostate cancer, that’s a bunch of bs. Wet dreams are natures way of “cleaning the pipes” if you’re not getting sex.

It’s crazy how we went from being a totally repressed puritanical society, to a completely depraved wanton society who’s motto is, “if it feels good, do it” Where is the balance??? I think in 10 20 years it’ll become mainstream knowledge that excessive wanking, especially to porn is detrimental to ones well being. Sure, porn has been around for a long time… but never until the last 10-15 years have we been exposed to so much porn. You don’t have to go to the seedy “book store” to get your fix, and even then you’re only able to get so much and it costs a lot…. now you don’t have to pay for it (if you know what your doing) and can be up to your eyeballs in it immediately. That is not natural.

Think about highly successful people that you admire or want to be like. Do you think 2pac sat around beating his meat for hours a day? George Clooney? Leo Messi? No, they most likely channeled that sexual energy into their respective crafts to further themselves along.

Peter January 22, 2012 at 1:28 pm

Hello guys.

I’ve been wondering about something…

After I start the Reboot ( already did countless times, even though I sometimes manage to hold for days without masturbation ), I find myself waking up in the morning and starting to ( without noticing it myself ) ”hump” the bed I just slept on, dropping some drops of sperm in the process. So, no matter how much or how little the amount of sperm is released, does it count as a relapse?

Does a single drop of sperm count as relapse ( in the context of what I said above ) or doesn’t it ? Because I don’t want to release whatever bit of testosterone I can gather humping the bed x)

Hope you understand my question. English is not my native language so I have certain difficulties expressing myself.

Good luck to all.

Going to relieve myself for the last time today and start rebooting. I’ll leave reports of how it went for those who want some more feedback ( even though the feedback in this forum is enough ).

Cheers!

Late February 7, 2012 at 1:03 pm

I came across an article by a Dr. Sayeed Ahmad from India, honestly, I was bewildered by his claims. I had to copy paste this, kindly enlighten on them:

Some of the after-effects of masturbation are :

1. The nervous system is affected the most.
2. Besides the heart, the digestive system, the urinary system as well as the other systems are adversely affected and consequently the whole body becomes the museum of diseases with profound weakness.
3. The eyes become sunken, the cheek bones protrude and there is a black rim round the eyes.
4. Continuous headache and backache.
5. Dizziness and loss of memory.
6. Palpitation of heart on lightest exertion.
7. Nervousness.
8. Unable to perform any heavy physical or mental work.
9. The person dislikes any company and activities and rather likes to sit in seclusion and suffers from weakness.
10. All the senses are impaired.
11. Vision becomes dim, the tongue begins to stammer and ears tend to become deaf etc.
12. Lastly T. B. or insanity or some other serious disease catch hold of the victim to lead his life to a close.
13. Impotency.

You could read the whole article here http://homeoint.org/site/ahmad/masturbation.htm

I’d appreciate if anyone agrees with the article.

positive thinking February 8, 2012 at 4:02 pm

I try no to masturbate to much a least onece a week or every 2 week because I lose my energys and the body get used to masturbate and can’t have good sex because of that :-)

Ed February 15, 2012 at 7:21 am

I have gone at least a month without ejaculating and can honestly say it makes you workout incredibly intensely. Last night I had sex and had the most mindblowing orgasam I have ever had. I self released before doing the deed to avoid PE, can honestly say the orgasam I had during sex felt almost multiorgasmic it was that powerful. I am about to reboot, as I want to put the energy into my uni study and fitness.

scotty February 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm

Hey I love this, what Ive done is the 7 day plan, Wanking on the sunday. This means throughout the week It builds up until friday/Saturday when I go out with the mates down town looking for pussy! This got me really motivated to approach girls!

Mr. X February 18, 2012 at 8:32 am

Hi, I’m a newly single man of 40 and abstained for the first time in my adult life for 16 days. I managed to get through the urges by working out the most intensely than I ever had… (almost everyday for at least 1 hour). I kept myself disciplined but gave up on Day 16 as all of a sudden my muscles stared to grow so crazily that I couldn’t even sleep from discomfort and needed something to ‘calm down’ (it was if my ‘blood was boiling’ and would wake up on nights 15 & 16 literally with NIGHTMARES (and I don’t normally remember dreaming anything) — I swear, strangest experience). I suspect it was the excess testorone in my blood — I relapsed for about 5 times over 3 days since to my shame but am about to re-start abstaining again (along with the fitness routine). Without the workouts, I don’t think I can control it. How can you!? Net effect: strange mental experience but I am actually physically bigger and more masculine as a consequence of it. Anyone have similar experience?

Mattias February 18, 2012 at 7:10 pm

Eh, Mr X. I’m turning 35 soon and kind of had a severe age crisis dec-jan, so your experience gives me hope in the workout department! I am on a reboot (as they say on quitting porn sites) and hoping to rewire my brain from extreme kink to getting aroused by just a girl being naked. Yes, porn-induced ED…

I haven’t noticed any shocking changes in physical abilities at the gym. But then again, I haven’t abstained for 16 days yet, and the caffeine-quitting withdrawal symptoms are pretty tough so gym is not an option at this point. Am now on day 5 of abstinence (from porn and masturbation) and moody, plus tired from coffee withdrawal. But flirty! Last night I woke up with a woody that wouldn’t go away. My goal is to be able to get a full erection from just SEEING a sexy girl.

sameer February 19, 2012 at 12:05 am

Great article brother… agreed with each and everything you wrote, especially the psychological issues.
Thanks alot :)

Ed February 19, 2012 at 9:25 am

I have read numerous stories about doing this and would have to agree that from experience, you do feel more jacked and verile to the opposite gender. Women start to sense the higher tetesterone levels, I have notised little subtle things in that regard. Have also heard that many spiritualists attribute special powers of enlightenment to going for prolonged periods. Can honestly say it can keep older guys as horny as 18 year olds, seems to be one consequence of it.

Geordan February 19, 2012 at 10:58 am

@ mr X. I agree with you. The longer I abstain, I start to get REALLY vivid dreams. Almost like, they’re really happening. Not always nightmares, sometimes just random stuff. Ive also DEFINITELY noticed increased size and strength to the point where I can wow people at the gym. I also tend to be a little more successful with women. Energy levels and overall mood are alot higher as well. The only downfalls I can think of, are that Im alot more wreckless and its tougher to lose weight when in cutting phase of workouts.

Mr. X February 21, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Thxs to for the replies (didnt’ expect so many so quickly!) Been guilty of frequent re-lapse sinces breaking at Day 16 — haven’t been really able to re-start again yet. I need to relax somehow! Still working out though, but with slightly less stamina. @ Mattias, my experience in Days 12+ or so, I’d swear I could literally cum if I TRIED TO THINK HARD ABOUT IT (especially in the mornings).

I was working out before this experiment but only 1 or 2 times a week. It was intensity level and endurance that changed for me. Abstaining seems to help in these categories as you it makes you a ‘raging bull’ with no release…

With women, slight improvement but become more aggressive with staff in office (I happen to be a manager). Abstaining not suitable if you need to sit down and do writing tasks either…

My conclusion is that holding it back — combined with rigorous exercise — rockets up the fire (i.e. testosterone) in the blood, leading you to higher physical energy levels but mentally makes you more edgy. I understand why athletes tend to be poor students…

Mattias February 21, 2012 at 7:55 pm

Haha Mr X. Actually, many athletes do great in school, at least in my country. But the more intense their training is, the less time they have for school, I guess.

I am taking mental notes. Your gym story is encouraging. I just had bad caffeine withdrawal pains (and fell back), and got a chest muscle inflammation last weekend. Bringing me down, but your post is getting me psyched again, now that the chest pain is subsiding!

Update: After over a week of abstinence from porn and masturbation I got worried. My libido was fine, but my erections only occured at night. So I did a little mild stroking with one finger and one thumb, and thought of a naked girl. Nothing. I added some kink and got an erection. It wasn’t quick to answer but when it was up it stayed longer than usual, without stimulation.

Mr. X February 22, 2012 at 3:25 pm

@Mattias, how old are you and what country are you referring to?

The caffeine issue of yours is something I cannot relate to and have never experienced. How much coffee/cola have you been drinking!

PS I work in a nerdy, white-collar office and no one looks particularly atheltic…I look like a big time bodybuilder compared with the other men.

Paul February 22, 2012 at 10:20 pm

I don’t think I’ve ever made it past day 7 mark. Well, apart from phase when I was intensely reaching towards my physical goals, and felt like this would compromise it. After a good good let off, I need a couple of days to regenerate, and then it just feels like the part between my brain and skull is filled with semen, not even talking about my little brain.

Mattias February 23, 2012 at 1:05 pm

Mr X, I’m turning 35 very soon. Born, raised and living in Sweden, Scandinavia. Athletic people tend to be achievers, and that sometimes carries over to education. They are also disciplined.

Coffee. I’m inconsistent with most things. Some days my intake is zero cups, some days 4 cups. I quit last year without headaches. This time around it was gruesome.

Thoughts: I don’t think it’s advisable to go for months without ejaculation and sex. At least once a week should be minimum. As for me, I have desensitized my brain through porn, and my penis through masturbation. Arousal is now rare. So for people like me I suggest 100% abstinence for as long as possible, to regain sensation to the penis, and to lower expectations in the bedroom, from your visually fed idea of sex to a more realistic togetherness.

danny February 24, 2012 at 12:44 pm

nice article. very useful. keep it up!!!

TheCiscoKid February 26, 2012 at 6:41 am

Hey all. 27 Here.
I have consistently masturbated since I was about 12 years old. That makes about 15 years. Society never warned about the dangers of masturbation. Everytime in the past, when I wondered if it was affecting my motivation and energy levels, I would always come across stupid f**cking Bullsh1t websites that encouraged masturbating. In fact, I have NEVER found a website that discouraged masturbating recently. Seems western medicine LOVES and encourages masturabtion.

I was a shy guy and have always had social anxiety my entire life. (Go figure) – I was O-K with girls, and I got my first girlfriend in HS. She was a 6, not really hot or pretty but we had lots of sexual acitivity. I continued my masturbation and had somewhat ok relations with women off and on. I was always active and tried to work out. I read about women through David Deangelo and figured out how to attract them. Despite being able to attract women, and a few hot ones, (and ugly ones) – Ive had a few sexual episode here and there, and never considers myself bad with women.

I have always been a shy, insecure person though. I would mask my insecurity with an act. I never was a natural or felt comfortable in social situations. Very rarely. did i ever think it was my masturbation putting me off? No. One time We took a family trip to mexico. It was a week, and i noticed that i had lots of energy to do things, despite getting up early and having regular sleep patterns. (ive had irregular sleep patterns my entire life). I realize that I wasn’t masturbating that week.

Growing up I was always told I was forgetful and spacey. My family thinks there is something wrong with me. I know I am an intelligent person who is capable of amazing things. I just don’t understand why I am not as motivated and dont’ have the extra “umph” most men and people my age had.

Well starting today, I think I’ve figured it out.

Despite being decent with women, and having a relationship with a cougar at 21. I always felt self-concious, and insecure, but I always covered it up. I never had the “Drive” and “Ambition” everyone around me had. What were they doing that I didn’t? I just realized maybe my daily masturbation was stealing my energy. I had always suspected it but never came across anything to confirm it. So I continued to masturbate daily in my youth.

Now I am 27. Thank God, I still have the sex drive of a 20 year old. I can get my dick hard on command. I can ejeculate multiple times a day. This past year, 26, I have never been so depressed, and never have ejaculated so much in my life. You would think I would put 2 and 2 together, huh? Starting today, I am going to Damn the Well of my life force. I am going to perserve my life force and live life again. I will be at my full potential.

TheCiscoKid February 26, 2012 at 6:52 am

I also want to talk about something else. Although I have masturbated daily for the past 16 years, it has kept me in a semi-depressed state, and put me back in the ambition department. Many people I know do well in school. ect. I could never concentrate, even when I went to college at age 25 (2 years ago) – I was having extreme trouble remembering everything.

I have read many self help books, and none have touched on this subject. Only one. Napoelon Hill in “Think and Grow Rich” which someone else mentioned earlier. This was very importnatn but I did not realize how importnant. If we are vibrational beings, and the highest vibration possible, is to abstain from sex, then that what must be the key to high energy and high spirituality is.

I have just read that Semen is our life force of the bones. Now if we preserve our semen, how powerful can we be? I am very interested in attempting this. It’s not a matter of wanting to stop. Stopping is easy, it was a matter of “Not caring to.” – I never thought it was a problem. I never thought it was actually hindering the life-force, energy, motivation, and inner-will power of my spirit. You tell me now, do we not live in a crazy society?

Should we not share this knowledge with everone? Masturbation is even encouraged in SEx-ED! We should also be tought the dangers of not preserving our very valuable life force. What a hard lesson I am learning, at Age 27. But I know life is not over. We maintain our sex drives, and in that instance, when we well the damn, and preserve our life force, we are able to achieve maximum power. Just as Napoleon hill said.

I have experimented with many forms of mediation. I have been able to manipulate my own dreams. I am excited to see how vivid and powerful my new dreams will be once I am connected to the life force. This is what they talk about when they say, we are all part of the same energy. Those of us with Low energy are the ones who spend it daily! I just realized that! When you have nostalgic dreams of romance, and your childhood, and you have a vivid dream; (the type of dream released from taking the chemical St. Johns Wort)

(St. Johns wort is an herbal remedy for happiness) – those dreams are you having a high life force; a saved sperm, and sexual energy! those are true power! that binds and connectes you to the human race. How many years Ive wasted by wasting my own power on senseless junk, and filth, and porn for so many years! i wish you all energy, peace, and blessing for the future. Let us heal our bodies, our energies, and most importantly, let us heal our souls! -Love

JP February 26, 2012 at 7:35 am

Raw food too is extremely important, sleep, sunlight and postive thought.

Mr. X February 27, 2012 at 5:34 pm

I’m now in Day 2 and off (no pun intended) to see if I can beat (again, no pun intended) a 16-day personal record.

Mr Chop February 28, 2012 at 8:10 pm

I would like to share my own story of abstinence. Today is my 25th day of abstinence and i feel like i am burning, and if i touch a girl it would set her on fire, and drive her mad.. :) I started this experiment of mine as to test my will power and to boost my motivation to go out and date women. Before i started this, i was, as everyone that stated above, depresed,and had no will to even live even thought of ending my own life litteraly. In this perion i only stayed at home and when i got bored i masturbated(at least 3 times a day). From now on when i finish my 40 days of abstinence i will, abstinate for about a week or two, and if i dont have a female partner with me to have sex with i will masturbate, just to empty the gun, and then continue again the same cycle. When i started to abstinate i immediatly felt a change in my mood and will so i recomend abstinating for at least a few days.Thank you Matt Savage for writing this post and everyone that subscribed, and thank you if you liked mine ;)

Mattias February 28, 2012 at 10:22 pm

JP, that sounds a lot like the recipe for wellbeing as promoted by Dr Lorraine Day. I will start switching my high meat intake to more raw veggy food, little by little. For longevity.

TheCiscoKid, you seem to have had a more accomplished life than I’ve had so far. Stay away from all that spiritual quackery though. Most of it is bull.

Mr X, so you fell back too? Remember, it’s not the “release” that’s the problem most of the time. In fact I had a crazy shift towards darker voice and higher beard growth rate after my recent releases. Just need breaks. For me, it’s a combo of emotional baggage, too frequent masturbation, and too many kinks that’s causing my problems.

Mr. X February 29, 2012 at 4:21 pm

I’m now in Day 4 and it seems to be getting easier! (big-time, tempting hard-ons in the morning though, which is in any case a good sign of health).

To keep disciplined, I’m now learning that you HAVE TO WORK OUT in tandem to ‘release’ your pent-up essence into your own muscles rather than flushing it literally down the toilet….(if you think of it, what a waste of your ‘life force’ ;))

If you are familiar with energy supplements such as NOExplode, abstinence gives you that extra boost when working-out and the ability to repair and build more quickly.

Frankly, it would be more pleasurable to have regular sex but if the right woman isn’t around, I’d recommend utilising your essence to the more productive purpose of improving and healing your own body rather than blowing it in some tissue paper…

Ed March 1, 2012 at 6:49 am

Went to the gym tonight and had a great workout, while I was louded with pre workout, like double my normal dosage, felt awesome. I have been abstaining for a while although I had sex a few times last week. Tonight I was so amped at the gym I imagined I half shot my loud. Actually I am quite certain I did. Is this normal?

g March 1, 2012 at 12:19 pm

Sometimes I have a hard time getting erections, even if I’m getting a blowjob or looking at a really hot girl. Is this because of over-fapping? Anyone have any experience with this?

Daniel Los Angeles March 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm

i’ve been trying everything with the goal to have sex with women. i realized early on that testosterone played a major role. so, i did figure out plenty of way to increase T through supplements. (tongkat ali, dhea, HCG, tribulus) honestly, they all do work. i can tell after taking them that women are attracted to me a bit more. when i walk by, they lick their lips and look at me. women bounce their breasts when i get in proximity. or, they flick their hair to get my attention. women are usually attracted to my looks, but since my looks are strong i am guessing my estrogen is naturally high.
anyways, after taking all these supplements, my libido increased drastically. but i wasted it all on masturbation. especially after HCG, my libido went through the roof. i was waking up in the middle of the night to masturbate. but because of the over-masturbation, i believe my immune system lowered and caused me to get sick. i am sick right now.

i’m really thankful you wrote this article. i am going to try to abstain. i might not even need all these supplements if i just abstained. i have a feeling my abstinence plus supplements might be too much testosterone. so i might in the end, cut down on the supplements.

i seem to have the ability to attract women initially, just based on my looks and by testosterone energy via supplements. but, i don’t have that extra something to take it to the next level. maybe my decades of masturbating daily has depleted me of my natural drive and instincts to properly react to women.

hopefully abstaining will change this.

my initial goal is to abstain for 7 days as suggested.

but later on, i want to abstain to the point where the only times i ejaculate without real sex is through nocturnal emission. i remember wet dreams being the best experience ever. i haven’t had that in a long time.

Mr. X March 1, 2012 at 6:22 pm

How’s this for a theory — abstinence ends up giving off hormonal signals that you are a harmless ‘gay’, keeping in mind that women are ironically comfortable and attracted to gay men…

Daniel LA March 1, 2012 at 7:45 pm

The 7th day pop in T is probably causing the unbearable attraction.
I don’t think it’s a gay vibe. It’s a tank is full and biologically and physically necessary to unload vibe. Once the primitive vibe is put out its probably the female’s instinctive duty to attempt to be the one that is chosen to be unloaded into.

Steve-O March 2, 2012 at 7:41 pm

Does anyone think this is just a placebo effect?

Mr. X March 3, 2012 at 2:00 pm

@Daniel LA — your theory sounds very good too…I was thinking also how some women go for good-looking young priests who are celibate for some reason (or just coincidence)…the thing with gays could also be more limited to gays “who are in denial” so aren’t really doing anything with anybody (or even themselves) & have T-build-up as well…

The studies cited with the 7 day cycle aren’t that strong though — we’re not rats for god’s sake! I have no idea otherwise what is the ideal peak cycle (or could it build-up ad infinitum? ;0)

@ Steve-O, I don’t think there is a placebo effect as I’m definitely feeling something different…

PS “Day 7″ and counting — fought off strong temptation this morning and aiming to go beyond the 7-day rule & beat 16-day personal adult lifetime record! Planning mega-marathon work-out tomorrow to absorb “the juices” internally rather than externally. Seems easier to sustain second time around (did 16 days first half of February) Might however have the opportunity later this week to unload with a real women though (which would be nice but mess up this self-experiment) ;)

unknown March 4, 2012 at 5:41 pm

I think this theory is true. I found that refraining from masturbation puts a twinkle in your eye that females find attractive. Its almost like they can sense it. It’s like your testosterone radiates around you. I’ve had way better luck with women I find if your not choking your chicken all the time.

Daniel LA March 6, 2012 at 4:21 am

ok, i think i’m on day 5ish. i didn’t jerk for 4 days. today, i thought it would be ok just as long as i don’t ejaculate. i just couldn’t take it anymore. i had seen too many hot girls past few days. but, from today’s jerk session i realized something. background.. i usually don’t just jerk with my hand motion, i sort of pump into my fist. the 4 days of jizz being accumulated does something to the vigor of the cock pumps. it feels like the pumps are coming from the root of my balls and there is power behind it. maybe it’s the built up testosterone. maybe girls instinctively know that… if this guy fucks me now, it’s gonna be a good lay. they know there will be power being the pumps. the cock will reach deeper and harder bc the T is built up in the balls. they instinctively intuit that there will be vigor, they know there will be a big load, and instinctively they know that the best chance for fertility, create a child is near at day 7 and beyond. if you jerk off everyday.. you are basically forfeiting this chance for women to feel this instinctive attraction.

Daniel LA March 6, 2012 at 4:24 am

ps: sorry for the TMI. lol

cool March 6, 2012 at 7:05 am

Naw Dan, that was a great laugh, I know what you mean, yesterday was supposed to be my 7th day, I failed, today I start again haha

Daniel LA March 6, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Yea I just fucked up too I lasted 5 days. There was atleast 3 interactions with women with breasts hanging out. There is no way I cannot ejaculate to those stored images. Maybe jerking even if not ejaculating is a no no. There is just too much temptation to unload.

Randy March 6, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Been going to the gym a lot the past 6 months. Made some gains. The muscles started showing a bit but I still looked and acted basically the same. Thought about abstaining for a while. After beatin’ one out then reading this last Wednesday I decided to give it a try. Yesterday on day 5, I noticed the energy level was way up. Probably a combination of being free of the need and having the extra testosterone. Oh yeah, and knowing the next time a girl gets it, she’ll get it good. That feels good to have that piece of info in the head even if you’re tired and having a bad day.

Yesterday in the weight room I tossed around more weights than usual. Didn’t lift near any records but defiantly had energy to stay and do more. At night I remember how connected I felt to every muscle in my body, even the ones I hadn’t worked out. I remember going to bed just feeling good and not worrying about a damn thing! Sometimes I have way too much on my mind.

Today I woke up and had the biggest biceps I have ever seen on me! Went to my department to work wearing a slimmer than usual shirt. I took a break and just hung out pretty confidently not thinking about anything but a stupid game on my phone. Suddenly this cute girl I know who is usually too shy to begin conversations and often disinterested in talking to me anyways, comes up and starts talking to me. What?! That’s the second time a girl has come up to me this week at my department alone! Women come up to me almost never, anywhere. Can’t wait to go out at night feelin this good.

MultiO March 6, 2012 at 4:31 pm

I read this forum a couple of months ago and decided to give the theory a shot. I must say it wasn’t easy at first but I’ve gotten to the point where I can go for weeks at a time without ejaculating. However this doesn’t mean I don’t masturbate. I figured that as long as I am going to experiment I might as well go all the way. So I picked up a book on becoming Male Multiple Orgasms. Essentially learning how to have multiple orgasms without ejaculating.

Check out the book, it’s a quick read, and follow the exercises. You’ll be surprised how much you learn, and how much your sex life will improve: http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Orgasmic-Man-Sexual-Secrets-Should/dp/0062513362

Aubrey March 7, 2012 at 2:36 am

I love you (this)! Thank-you for being so open and objective. What about women, I wonder?

Stephen Waterstram March 8, 2012 at 8:14 pm

Masturbation without ejaculation is something we at OnaniaSupport call Edging. I myself don’t edge but most of my other penis stroking bretheren prefer to deprive themselves of cumming for long periods of time because they believe it provides them the best long awaited orgasm when they finaly allow thenselves to ejaculate. I still believe that the penis is definately the epotme genital of masturbation although they have advertised masturbation toys for women.
There are many periods of ebb and flow of society’s preference to encorage sexual partnering and times solosexualizing and the occlusion of both.

Mr. X March 10, 2012 at 7:15 am

I let go on Day 8 and met up with an athletic ‘heavy metal’-style chick many years from junior and did her twice big-time literally without breaking a sweat! :) Although tempting, masturbation is self-destructive, a total waste, and should only be used in emergenices! (maximum once a week if you can’t hold it anymore) Saving it for the real-thing is absolutely great! (BUT ONLY WORKS IF YOU WORK-OUT WHILE ABSTAINING)

I’m now ‘re-setting’ myself for another 7 days (actually, I’m starting to agree with this time-cycle)…

@ Daniel LA — being in LA (I assume), you see a lot of female skin — I’m in a rainy northern European city with few hot chicks that are usually covered up anyways. I do find, however, that while abstaining I find that looking at soft nudes helps me relax but I don’t act upon them at all. I’m not into this ‘edging’ business either — all or nothing for me.

@ Randy : I agree totally with your observations and your experience only re-confirms my own.

Jay March 11, 2012 at 9:29 pm

Well I agree with Matt Savage. I totally agree, coz I myself have been into phase of abstinence, and have been successful with women more than I dreamt. And even when you masturbate in 10-12 dyas you feel strong, vital, full of energy and mostly your concentration power is great. I further suggest to all people reading this, that self pleasure without orgasming( sounds tough) is even a great way to pleasure without having the harmful effects of masturbation. If one can pleasure by his hand or a pillow, whichever way one does, and go to the last pont and stop, that will be a great practice. I call it the start and stop method. do try it once.

Rob March 13, 2012 at 2:19 am

I am on 16 days so far,however I notice no difference.Did not feel anything different either on day seven when testosterone levels are supposed to go up.Maybe I got low testosterone?I am 20 years old.I’ve been wasting my seed daily since I was like 15 years old,so I think this quitting porn/masturbation would help me tremendeously.

I see you guys getting positive results like after 1 week.I’m on 16 days and still nothing,should I keep going?

Ed March 14, 2012 at 3:50 am

I am about to read “Way of the Superior Male” by David Deida, which is virtually about abstaining or using your sex energy productively. Very few studies have been done on this topic and it is something which is kind of seldom spoken about openly, however there are a number of people who can vouch for the effectiveness of abstaining. I know it works I have gone close to 2 months and feel awesome.

Steve-O March 17, 2012 at 7:22 am

Did someone mention that this has benefits other than just attracting women – like does it improve you socially, etc?

Mattias March 20, 2012 at 5:50 pm

Hey Rob. 16 days is a little over-the-top if you ask me. I want to wait until my testicles are harder and then a few days more. To max out the potential and make the pressure build up inside for further capacity. I haven’t done any scientific studies, I tend to just go with experience and logic. I think there’s a limit to how much semen the testicles can contain, and sooner or later you’re going to have to release to maintain a high production rate. I’d say 10 days maximum, and then release with a girl (not on your own) if you’re that lucky.

I’m in a new cycle, day 5 or 6 of abstinence, and boy am I getting efficient. I am also brash and ruthless, but that’s just masculine. Real men trample on someone’s toes once in a while. That’s okay. It’s a win-win situation. It toughens up both.

I stutter at times normally, and it’s been a little worse than usual, because even if I like these rough edges in my personality, these traits clash with my intention to be friendly and easy-going. Hence the nervousness.

@Steve-O. You get a more relaxed attitude, as if nothing fazes you, and that self-assurance is liked by others, so it does help socially. But my suggestion is that you stay away from beating it to porn even if you don’t release. The porn is going to hinder your communication and social skills.

Ed March 24, 2012 at 3:21 am

I am starting on a new cycle myself. There is no doubt that you get far stronger IOIs from women. For me holding out more than a month is difficult. I think that works pretty well for me.

bob March 24, 2012 at 9:46 pm

awesome article. I’m on day three now. I’ll post back with results later in the week

DetailingGuy March 26, 2012 at 3:50 pm

Hi! I read this article couple of months ago, found it very interesting. Things made sense. But since my dickens has been ruling over my other brain so strongly since my teens (i’m 25 now), i could not manage to go beyond 4 days. It was torture doing it. Some unintentional rubbing over the sheets and i was done.
I consider myself very attractive. I do not have problem getting girls, but i lack motivation and feel a bit depressed at times.

Well this time im trying the cycle again. Somehow, ive managed till day 12. :p And let me tell you, my first week was EPIC! Lol not because i’ve had tonnes of pussy in my bed everynight, but, my take on things has been entirely different! Day to day things seem interesting. I’m focused, interested. Yes, after day 4, i felt the urge to go out look for a honey. I think the whole sensation for me peaked on day 6. That night, I was up 3am, out of breath, and found dickens choking/vibrating/struggling/convulsing like crazy! It was making me twitch all over! I was having spasms which continued over three whole minutes! Head was spinning left to right! Felt like lavajizz was exploding out! Was very certain i was wetting things but it felt soo good! I have never felt such a sensation before!! maybe it was a lucid dream about to happen, but since i’ve never had one before, i cant say for sure! First thing i remember was my heart pounding like retardedly crazy which got me up. After about five minutes, i checked things and surprisingly, it was pretty dry down there. I went to the bathroom, washed my face, lit a cig, looking in the mirror. Still catching on breath, throat was really dry, dickens felt like a stranger, and for some reason, my body was yelling at me” GET ME A FUCKIN CHICK RIGHT NOW OR ELSE!” (in the am). left the bathroom, tried to embrace the entire happening, and went to sleep feeling exhausted.
Now day12 explains the fact that i’m trying to aim for my first ever wet dream.

Okay my interests are not just to hookup. My last relationship was horrible, the girl was a control freak and was a pure one from the selfish breed you call slutty bitches! Been a while since then and I want to have nothing like that. I think i’m still the same, dont want any random hookups, some feelings need to exist before anything happens.

On day 8, a friend of mine was getting some friends together. It was a lunch thing. It was me, two other buddies, a chick buddy, and a chick i had not met before. She was 8/10, (retty hot). We all got in my car, drove around for a bit, picked a spot and went in. Now in that time, the unknown girl was introduced. I had heard about her. She was in a relationship already and was going well with her guy. So she turned out to be another buddy chick. But as i sat next to her during lunch, coffee, brownies, etc,.. turned out dickens didn’t agree all the time. I was having an awesome time with my mates, Cracking jokes and all! There was confidence and energy in me i had not felt much before.
And chicks, well there were like 6-8 different girls over there that kept checking me out constantly, passing smiles, fiddling with their hair. Their body language told me they wanted to be with me. Including this new chick sitting next to me. An hour in and she couldn’t get her eyes off. Dickens liked this girl, he kept stretching whenever i caught this girl staring at me to my face. Lol! And i was very comfortable with it. I’ve NEVER felt so comfortable when friends, possible babes, boner and humor is all put together at the same time. Add to that, there was one girl across one table that i assessed to be the hottest. She was sitting with apparently her fiance. My men, this girl was a 10! And she was one of those checking me out aswell, and rather alot. She was staring at me more than the guy she was sitting next to! A little older than me probably, but she was the thing! For the longest term in my life, I kept my stare locked to this girl as she stared back at me. I felt calm, and king. Both me and dickens admired her beauty as she looked over. Her eyes told me she wanted to be with me instead of the guy she was with. Im not trying to be rude, i respect women, They were all lovely, but i didn’t hook up with anyone that day because that was not my primary motive, instead i was being amazed how well my week was going.

I’ll continue this later. Day 12 going strong

Daniel LA March 26, 2012 at 9:37 pm

@MRX

i don’t think i’ve gotten over 4 days yet… today i was on a day 3… i went to venice beach and did my usual walk. i noticed one vendor lady sitting on the boardwalk she was sort to leaning over and showed some cleavage when i was walking by. i thought maybe it was just coincidence so i didn’t think much of it. that kind of thing is pretty common. but, on the way back, i noticed her ass and was just looking at it. all of a sudden she got on all fours lifted her ass up, then put both hands on both butt cheeks and acted like she was spreading her cheek open. unfortunately she was wearing jeans.

also at 24 hr fitness today, i was doing the leg curls then i saw a lady starting to bite her fingers. i didn’t think much of it, then she started to stick it in her mouth and licked her finger in her mouth. i thought ok, maybe she is just doing that randomly. then, she put her hands under her sweater jacket and started fondling her right breast. i dunno if it was for me or not, but that was 2 really sexual things going on there, that is out of the ordinary.

oh yea, and yesterday i went out to the mall with a friend… 2 girls were walking by i was looking at one of them. she didn’t quite look at me, but i heard her say F*CK ME when i was just about to walk by.

if this is day 3, im afraid to see day 7.

god bless abstinence.

melvin zink March 26, 2012 at 9:51 pm

the end of day four for me. this morning an 8 messaged me on okcupid and later i was reblogged by this girl i’ve been in love with since college (9 years).

tomorrow it is my hope that Alison Brie mistakenly text me for a date at the local diner and 1954 Grace Kelly shows up to borrow my shower.

Daniel_LA March 27, 2012 at 12:47 am

Day3 fail. I need to delete some urls off my browser.

mohd March 27, 2012 at 2:52 am

i’m so glad i found this website, i will be reading these comments every night to help me stop. Also, i will update you in a week.
You guys are very motivating, that is for certain!

Rob March 27, 2012 at 11:40 am

I completed one month of abstinence,I noticed no difference at all,no increased confidence,no increased motivation to meet women,no increased attention from women like you guys write here.Eventually yesterday I said fuck it,and busted one.

I thought this will help me because I used to be a daily fapper.I can’t understand how you guys get confident and things like that from this.I envy all of you.Maybe you guys are good at placeboing this no fap=increased confidence.Sorry about sounding so skeptical

Daniel LA March 27, 2012 at 2:19 pm

Hey Rob….

Just my opinion but for some, I think this abstinence’s increase in T maybe enough to potentiate or maximize their intrinsic attractiveness. If they are good looking, healthy, attractive to begin with the T just maximizes their potential. It’s like adding tabasco sauce to a steak, it spices things up a little. If they are hot to begin with the T just accentuates that hotness and it builds into higher confidence and the women can feel that.

I don’t think the T increase is enough if there are some basic flaws or basic attractive features are missing. By this I don’t mean just looks. I have seen ugly dudes with some hot women. But all of them have something similar:

  1. they are aggressive and outgoing
  2. they have good posture
  3. they exude confidence
  4. they seem cheerful, alive, have energy
  5. they don’t look scared

The most basic feature that can be worked on by anyone is … the posture. You wouldn’t believe how basic and necessary this is. The good posture will actually increase your confidence as much as abstinence imo. but, honestly, good posture is not easy. because when you have good posture you are basically challenging all the alphas in a given area. It’s easy to just cower into bad posture if you get scared. But usually, the person with the best posture is the most attractive in any given area. It shows that they aren’t afraid of anyone and they are basically feared by most betas. Good posture seems easy, but it’s as hard as abstinence. It’s a good place to start to start building basic alpha skills. Try walking around with the best posture possible, see how hard it is when you are near a gangster type or biker gang or football player or mma type. If you can’t overpower them with your posture. You’re basically still a beta. If you can put fear into those types with no problems, the women will start getting attracted to you without doing anything. Because basically, you are the boldest, bravest person around in that given area. if you were a woman, wouldn’t you want to chose the bravest one in the group?

But anyways, I can’t even get past day 3 on the non-fappage so i guess i don’t have a right to lecture about anything. I’m really good with initial attraction, but still working on building a good connection and closing the deal. Lots more to learn about this subject and I really won’t stop until I become really attractive inside and out. Good luck!!!

Daniel LA March 27, 2012 at 2:24 pm

ps: if you successfully start walking around with good posture… you’ll start feeling a momentum of confidence that matches your body movement. i believe some call it swagger.

DetailingGuy March 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Rob, bro, use some logic, women are not gonna appear from thin air. To put it in simple words, When you fap, you use it as a way to release your sexual energy. When you do it often, you start relying on it. When you orgasm, your brain uses some of your endorphins to pleasure you. When you fap often, their level tends to deplete and when that happens, your brain chemistry has changed and you tend to stay in a weary mood/state.

Lets compare it to not fapping.

  1. You will have a loaded gun
  2. You’ll maintain that its only right to have sex with a real partner
  3. More chances you will be on a lookout for one now
  4. You might find yourself actually making the effort to look good and stuff. (Imagine how that’ll help over time)
  5. Since your brain chemistry is now okay, you can take the time to appreciate everything and not just think about screwing things (just to feel okay, not better). Imagine having this property while you’re around women and talking.

These are few of the factual things that WILL happen to you.

I am new to this thing but it makes total sense to me right now, and for me, it is working. I do not expect pussy to appear under my pillow if i dont fap.

Maybe you’re not putting your built up energy to the right use? Because at the rate i’m seeing change, apart from women alone, i cant imagine where i’ll be in a month. I’ve done gardening (like growing things from seeds), some weird shopping for myself (including grooming stuff etc), cleaned up/rearranged my room which i would never do ,etc, all within the last week.

I do believe that 10 days should be the average duration between faps if you desire to do so, for medical reasons and obviously, you start losing sexual desire much later after that. And your sperm stays fresh (damaged leaves, new is formed). These are facts nothing from the fiction. Now pheromones and things, i do not believe in literally, but maybe you start putting out better vibes about yourself when you’re naturally feeling good. Think about that?

I say give it another shot and this time, go with 7-10 days. Not a month, 7-10 days. I hope this works for you in some way too buddy

DetailingGuy March 27, 2012 at 2:55 pm

Daniel,
Nice points you’ve raised sir

cool March 27, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Rob, I don’t know why it didn’t work for you, and it does seem like an excuse + if you don’t get out there, as somebody said, miracles won’t happen.

I did 10 on my 1st try, and now proceeding to beat my PR (haha), because I can see how it works. There is also my hypothesis that it might not really increase your attractiveness in itself, but your ability to read signs and messages from chicks.

Good luck.

Daniel LA March 27, 2012 at 7:38 pm

excuse me if this is excessive posting.. but i remembered a few things. this maybe pushing it into the esoteric realm of things.. but the level of T you have dictates the sexual circumstances and situations you attract. for instance on my last try, a couple weeks ago… i think i went as high as the 5th day.. when i went to the beach that day i sware most of the women i saw were 8 9 10s. when many of that calibur come into your sphere you start to notice that it’s not an ordinary day. there was a gangster type oldie car in front of me the guy was an alpha 9ish,10 and his gf was a 10 for sure. cameras rolled up and started filming them in some kind of venice beach documentary. ok, traffic moved on and then this one car full of girls just passed me by and got in front of my car. i was just wondering how the girls looked and just felt curious. then the girl in the passenger seat put her hands out and started doing this weird motion with her right hand. it almost looked like she was grabbing balls and caressing it. i was like, that can’t be for me. it would be cool if it was… then, the driver actually started doing the same thing.. its like they are caressing and cup holding imaginary ballsacs while their car was moving. i wasn’t exactly sure what that was… but i left it alone. the car moved out of the way and now the gangster car was in front of me again. then i saw a cute girl on the street and checked her out. she did this thing with her tongue into her cheek thing, kinda like a imitation blowjob. her bf was walking with her, but she did it pretty slickly so he won’t notice. i actually get this tongue into the cheek imitation blowjob alot.. even from my manager at work. she has a bf too but i think they just cant help it when the T is high. anyways, after i looked away from the cute girl on the street, i looked back at the gangster car… now, the 10 in the passenger seat put her hands out of the window and started to do the caressing ballsac motion… but i think the 10 alpha male was pretty intelligent so he caught on what was going on quick, so she pulled her hand in real fast. anyways… when the T is high, weird shit starts happening to the point of where it’s in a spiritual realm of sexuality. i cannot really put it into better words.

so in summary, the level of T one has coupled with attractiveness and some kind of spiritual/astrological luck creates sexual, pleasurable experiences without much effort. maybe it’s some kind of karma of sorts. who knows.

like people like Hugh Hefner… he must have figured out something major to be able to be around the hottest women all the time. I wonder if one day I can figure out what he knows and duplicate his success. I guess it is up to the stars and destiny to a major degree.

it might really be me just thinking too far into things, but seems like they are legit occurrences. really disregard this message if you think it’s all make up, i can understand why one would feel that way. as i cannot believe it when these things are happening either.

Mattias March 27, 2012 at 7:40 pm

DetailingGuy. Man, wish I could put it as eloquently and to the point as you do. Your posts are inspirational. And I need that because I have failed a lot lately…

Mattias March 27, 2012 at 7:59 pm

Hahaha. @Daniel. That’s the craziest story here so far. But maybe, just maybe, these outlandish surreal sexual innuendos happen around us all the time, but our senses and abilities to perceive our surroundings are enhanced during a “drought”.
I recognize that there is legitimacy to astrology too. In the long run though, I think it’s damaging for the psyche. I experienced that before I became a Christian. As a Christian, I believe in a spirit world and I can’t help but think that these blatant innuendos, behaviours and looks that might be more frequent during abstinence are manifestations of spirits, urging you to sleep around with these sluts and/or rebound to masturbation. I don’t think it’s right, under any circumstances, to flirt provocatively with girls who are spoken for.

Mattias March 27, 2012 at 8:09 pm

I believe there are spirits who try to lure you back into masturbation. And these spirits find a very accessible vessel in the typical slut, who starts flirting with you. We’ve all experienced how we all of a sudden become attractive to random women after we have entered into a relationship, right? You never became more attractive, that’s just the dark forces trying to pull you out and down again.

cool March 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm

Mattias, stop.

Matt Savage March 27, 2012 at 10:47 pm

Hey eveyone! I’m glad that there is still a good deal of discussion going on in the comments of this post particularly considering how long ago I wrote this article, but it has certainly helped to spark not only discussions of the issue here but all over the Internet with this article consistently being linked to by the hundreds from those very discussions. It’s definitely an issue that is gaining a lot of notice.

Also, I definitely want to keep encouraging people to consider the abstinence/no-fap/porn-free experiments for whatever you might think it’s worth in attempting to improve your lives and sharing your observations and findings so that we may all learn.

However, there is one thing that I don’t want muddying up the discussion on this particular topic and that is comments dealing with religion, spirituality and faith. And while my own methods aren’t exactly the most scientifically controlled and do rely quite a bit on anecdotal evidence, I try my best to follow a rational, logical process for figuring out whether or not an idea/hypothesis is most likely to be true or most likely to be false. And this process simply does not work on a spiritual or faith based level since those concepts provide no demonstrable support for the discussion at hand. So please, try to keep comments both civil and rational while leaving out arguments that rely on leaps of faith.

With that being said, I’m now going to edit the original article to change the instances of the word “Theory” to “Hypothesis” since that’s what it is, because unfortunately we are still lacking a lot of good experimentation and results on this topic.

Hypothesis: A supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.

I’d hate to be someone who contributes to the belief that real theories like evolution and gravity have no validity simply because I’m touting my no-fap experiment as some grand scientific break-through :)

Anyways, thanks again to everyone who’s been sharing quality rational information and experiences regarding this issue. Stay tuned for some new articles coming soon.

Daniel LA March 27, 2012 at 11:25 pm

nice Matt, very good points. i think whenever things don’t make sense or seem too good to be true i attach some kind of spiritual explanation to make it acceptable in my mind. maybe abstinence really does create such magnificent gains, right there, straight in reality. :D looking forward to new articles!

Rob March 28, 2012 at 4:40 am

I was thinking about it and I think I need to “rest” more than a month.
Since I was 15 years old I used to fap to porn 1 or 2 times daily.Have to say,before I didn’t know anything about porn,I used to be outgoing.Going to discos,chilling with friends,talking to them wasn’t an issue at all.Then when the internet came,that’s when I discovered porn.”Suddenly” I started to hang out less,staying inside home,was afraid to go out.I did not know what happened to me.

I am 20 years old now,and in those previous 5 years,I was fapping to porn 1-2 times a day. I think I was addicted to it,I can’t really tell. Society made it appear so normal to watch porn,so I thought it’s not really a problem.Oh boy,how wrong I was.

Since I quitted porn 3 months ago,I am flatlining.I mean,I got no sex drive at all,no interest in women,no excitement when seeing women.They say it’s normal to experience this phase when quitting porn.

I’m giving it more time to “heal” my brain,and we’ll see what will happen.

John March 28, 2012 at 8:48 am

Masturbation is not that big of a problem by its own. The real problem lies with porn, and masturbation is usually associated with porn usage.

Fortunately, more and more people realize how bad porn really is. About every 1 in 4 male has porn addiction problems in the U.S..

The younger generation is getting destroyed by pornography. Porn basically fries one’s reward circuit in the brain. It overload your brain to the point that you can’t even get a boner when you are facing a real woman.

riparianfrstlvr March 28, 2012 at 9:02 am

evil masturbation spirits? really? it’s 2012 for Jesus’ sake. as far as dopamine, testosterone and pheromones, self gratification, you are all right. everybody is different. we all want to feel good, sex is one way. food, drugs, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, even religion. pot and sex are my addictions of choice. Rob, i have felt the same several times, you will get over this. i have found proper diet plays a really big part in this as well. our body is a big chemical, electrical machine, you created a chemical imbalance is all. pheromones play a big part as mentioned, and we, through the media, have been conditioned to think our “smell” is bad. aerosol air fresheners, scented detergents, soaps, lotions, dryer sheets, anti-antiperspirants, deodorants. if you eat whole natural foods you smell better. i’m 54 now and thought i needed to see a doctor and get viagra, or maybe i’m having another flat spot, like you Rob, and i was really concerned as my lady was laying on top of me and nothing was happening. so i thought about pheromones and let go of the media propagated notion that my woman stinks as well as all of the religious dogma that sex is dirty and sinful and buried my face in her armpit. she doesn’t shave as i like the whole natural thing and she hadn’t bathed since the previous morning. within 30 seconds i was ready to go. since then i do it whether i need to or not and it works even better to the point she commented “man that was fast”. just let you ‘love juices” build back up, maybe get a hobby, build a bird house or something. it is like withdrawal.

Matt Savage March 28, 2012 at 10:11 am

@John

I definitely agree that porn is the root of the problem. And I think for those guys out there that are having a hard time with the abstinence experiment that they consider simply quitting porn first yet still allowing themselves to masturbate whenever they feel the need. I’ve done this personally and recognized that without the external stimulus of pornography you will eventually decrease the frequency in which you feel the need to fap since your body is seeking to re-balance it’s hormone levels. Basically, like a drug addiction, porn is giving you an external stimulus when your body doesn’t need it.

Ed March 28, 2012 at 6:11 pm

I am in the process of rebooting myself. Some of the post’s are very interesting, this is obviously a very relevant and thought provoking topic. An earlier post mentioned having more attractive women in your sphere or proximatety when T levels are high. I can certainly relate to this although I also notise women dress better when you dress better. It is the same thing really. Kind of like when I am working out really hard and consistantly more and more fit woman come into my zone naturally. All probably can be attributed to higher T levels.

mohd March 29, 2012 at 5:01 am

@ Matt Savage

Your article/post is fantastic. More than you can ever know.
Recently after coming across this page and reading all the comments, I motivated. Somehow I was easily able to overcome my porn and masturbation addiction that has spanned over 10 years (24 years old). Yes it was an addiction, i tried to quit before and FAILED multiple times. This time, it was like magic, i saw what countless people experienced, and that there was a reward at the end of the tunnel.

Right now i’m on my fourth day and there is no compulsion to masturbate whatsoever, i would have withheld my comments until the 7th day but i saw you post so i have to tell you this:

I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and i was given some medication to help me focus (dexerdine). The beauty of this is, after abstaining for 2-3 days, my mind was so clear, so focused, that it felt like i was on these medications when infact i didn’t take them in the past few days for the sake of the experiment. Lets say that abstaining is equivalent to about 60-75% of the dosage i’m on. If i start exercising, i bet that my ADHD symptoms would come close to vanishing completely. It is as if i was misdiagnosed, and my real problem was jacking off every day before bed. It is funny really, i even humorously thought about denying my partner sex because the affects I’ve experienced after abstaining for 3 days now, are amazing. That is just 3 days, wow can’t wait till 7.

I took my meds today, and i didn’t even notice much of a change at all. Brain was already primed and ready to kick ass and take names. very minor improvement from meds.

The meds i take help release dopamine in the brain which i believe is partly responsible in the motivation/focus factor. I guess i have been depleting it too fast by masturbating daily.

So Thanks Matt, for sharing this with us.

Cheers.

Ed March 29, 2012 at 9:24 am

I am Day 3 and this forum is really helping out. I am not too worried about going to much over a month. When I hit the gym next week after a small break for recovery I will start notising the effects.

Daniel_LA March 29, 2012 at 10:23 am

Yesterday day 2 failed… It’s not so much the porn but the live chat video porn type sites that messes me up.

cool March 29, 2012 at 10:59 am

Yeah, I must agree that the comments are cool, you see success stories, theories and unfortunately, falls – just as I failed yesterday (technically tonight), but I believe most of us keep trying, as this is a voluntary choice and we have seen the consequences.

Even though I busted a nut tonight, a chick was trying to pick me up today, I don’t know to what to attribute this, but I’d say myself, haha.

sam b March 29, 2012 at 2:39 pm

I think I can vouch for the general hypothesis that abstinence puts you in an attractive frame of mind. My experience is that every time I abstain from masturbation for more than a week I have had the opportunity for some actual action. Of course, reading this article was a bit of selective exposure, as I found it by looking to see if anyone had experienced the same thing; but reading the comments it seems there’s enough anecdotal evidence to conclude that something is going on here.

Now, this may not work for everyone, but I’ve developed a few guidelines to get the most out of the experience.

1 – Get off the computer. If you’re a regular porn user you’ll know that sitting at the computer, alone, for a long time can increase the likelihood of a quick fap. So limit your use or bring your computer some place less private.

2 – Find ways to use sexual energy. If you’re going to abstain for any length of time you will find a new source of energy borne of sexual frustration. Use it. Exercise is a great way of dealing with this, and is obviously beneficial in other areas.

3 – Go outside. Especially in the summer, when the girls are showing some skin. If you’ve been a few days without beating it you’ll notice a marked difference in your reaction to such sights. This is good. That’s the energy you’re after. (It’s also the energy they’re after)

4 – Meet people. Make a few first impressions in your new state of mind and see how things play out. I see a lot of previous comments that describe this experience. Trust me, it’s very rewarding.

If you find the difference in the way your brain functions to be off-putting, I implore you to continue anyway. You won’t turn into a slavering sex-fiend. You’ll just be more aware of the women (or men if you go for that) around you. And that is a very good thing, because believe it or not, they are aware of you, and many of them like what they see.

Daniel_LA March 29, 2012 at 3:06 pm

@sam Awesome post, your intentions are good and appreciated. that’s a nice list of helpful things probably holding back progress for alot of people attempting this. I deleted, no dragged all my porn links into a folder and his it away in archive. Hope that minimizes the temptations.

@detailer you know that weird experience you had the after a few days of abstinence? The shaking and release of some energy? I think I had that in my first few weeks of dorming at college. I had a roommate and was so busy with new college life that I think I didn’t fap for months. I thought honestly that I had reached enlightenment or something back then, but come to think of it maybe it was just a burst of T. I remember one night I felt my whole body get warm and I felt like I was floating on my bed with pure love and warmth. Those few months I was unusually social and had abundant energy. Faplessness probably was the cause. I really want to experience that warmth again so I will really focus on going 2 weeks.

@ed. Yes T creates some magic like that .

Ed March 30, 2012 at 9:40 am

Most of the tests conducted on this have not been more than a week. They seem to conclude that t levels increase by a great deal after a week and subside. There was an experiement in China which seemed to conclude this. In my view that was very limited, I have found going more than a month means a series of peaks and troughs. Last time I did it I got very horny after a bit over a month. When I reboot, I have to get the urge to fap out of my system a few times, once I get a few days under my belt I start to feel good again.

George March 30, 2012 at 1:01 pm

I’ve also been experimenting with this “no fap” theory. On the fourth and fifth day I felt really good..really powerful and very confident.
Now I am on day 9 and it seems to have a reduced effect right now (for me). I no longer have the clear mindset I used to get..It must be because I’m really horny ..it’s hard to not think / look at women when you are walking in the city. I will not give up though..

Strange thing that happened on day 4..i got “blueballs” somewhere near the evening..I really don’t know why, I wasn’t in any state of arousal.

I’m gonna keep going :)

Ed April 1, 2012 at 4:50 am

The key is to really stick with it, having this thread can be a great support system. By keeping really busy, and having faith you will get your needs seen to that’s the way I look at it.

Zorro April 2, 2012 at 11:57 am

Is it “normal” to sometimes release small quantities of sperm when you urinate ? It happens to me when I’m horny all day long ( ive been FAP free for 12 days now ) and I get a small pain in my balls but fades away quickly.

perro April 2, 2012 at 10:20 pm

Zorro…
It’s normal in that case, but that doesn’t mean good… what I mean is if you get aroused just by thinking or looking or curiosity of sex or female bodies (assuming this from a straight male perspective) then there are movements inside the endocrine system and semen is produced and starts a process of “combustion” which is difficult to stop… the only way is to ignore the itch as soon as possible and not only not acting on it but also not thinking about it, which is a form of action. What happens is that you will produce the semen/testosterone and loose that fine energy. There is no need to transform sex, just ignore it, dont think about it, stop the addiction one day after the other. I guess

Daniel LA April 3, 2012 at 12:57 am

“best workout ever”

ok, i think i’m on the fifth day.. yesterday i almost lost the battle, but i didn’t let jizz pop. that porn is evil and still enticing me. but glad i won the battle last night cuz i got some progress reports from today.

i remember last time i made it to day 5 i had the pretend ballsac caressing action from car in front of me.

i think my progress today is even better.

usually when i went to venice beach, i usually wear my hoodie. somewhat out of shyness to show off my body and somewhat to prevent skin cancer. anyways, today i had this new type of thinking.. “if i show m0re, i will get more.” really odd bold thinking that just came up probably from the increasing T. so instead of the hoodie, i wore a beater and sometimes just shirt off totally. usually only walk the board walk 100% of the time to get my cardio in. but today i got this urge to start walk towards the shoreline instead of the boardwalk. something inside me wanted to see more skin. and sure enough all the hot babes were sitting lying out in the sand sunbathing. i just walked by nonchalantly thinking, why didn’t i just walk the shoreline all this time? from now on, i will probably walk the shoreline instead. no real interaction at all, but i was satisfied with the increased quality of scenery. the increased T is naturally getting me closer to hotter more closer to naked women, because i am seeking them out more aggressively.

ok, that’s sort of normal progress. not really earth shattering.. but at night i went to go work out at the gym…

i sorta had a hunch it would be a good work out session because when i was going to park my car there was a really hot asian girl walking by and another lady was eyeing me while i drived by. i believe in these preludes.. small positive signals come before positive events.

i walked into the gym as usual, trying to be as alpha as possible. and, i noticed a latina lady that i always notice. i really like her a lot but in the past i stared at her body too intensely and i know she doesn’t like me that much. i creeped her out in the past. but today… for some reason.. oh yea it started at target. i told myself… “don’t stare at their titties or ass, just look at their eyes and treat them like a person.” lately, i’d been getting a lot of negative IOI’s from staring too much at ladies titties and asses. i don’t know if it’s the increasing T or lack of masturbating, but something sensible just reminded me to just look at their eyes instead. maybe i was just getting tired of the negative IOIs.

anyways, i tried to just look at her eyes and look away. i really fought hard not to look at her titties or ass. i was doing the leg curls when i couldn’t take it anymore and told myself… “a little peak won’t hurt.” and just looked at her ass for about 3 seconds. i wasn’t sure but it seemed like i felt she tapped her ass a little with her hand. but she usually doesn’t do that for me, so i just ignored it.

then some other girls were starting to give me positive IOIs.. playing with hair, licking lips, displaying ass type of behavior. the usual stuff that i’m sort of used to.

but ok… changed to the calf press machine… one whole side next to me was just a group of women doing leg presses together, including the latina girl that i like. i started doing calf presses.. then i noticed the hot asian girl i saw when i was parking my car get onto the inner thigh aparatus in front of me. that fucking set up is really sexualized because the person doing calf pressed is forward motion of the crotch and the inner thigh is a spreading and closing of the legs. anyways, i was calf pressing and she was spreading her legs open and shut… the timing was almost like we were fucking. LOL i didn’t think much of this. and honestly in the past i would think to myself… “every time i get on the calf presses, all the girls just run away because it’s really awkward for them to be there. in front of a creep like me.” then all of a sudden a fucking line starts forming for the inner thigh machine.. all girls that i think are medium, decent hot are getting in line to use that machine and i’m like… “i’m in heaven” lol and i have no choice but to be staring at these girls asses in front of me lining up so i started getting a semi boner. then, one of the latin girls on the other machine blurts out, “i have to stick it out.” i look and she sticks her ass out in my direction like 1 feet away. then, she said it again and sticks her ass out again. my semi- is like pretty decent sized. then, the latina girl that i really like started to get closer to me. she’s like 1 feet away now too… and started to shake her ass and kinda jiggle it. honestly, she turned me on so much that my boner was full-on now. and all my attention was on her. then, i noticed one of the cute ones who’s ass i was watching initially get upset and just walk away. then the latina girl did this cheerleader type movement, like she was really happy and that she had won. i really think they were competing for my attention. then this really big girl with a big ass came up real close and just stood there for like 30 secs for no apparant reason with her ass in my direction. but really my attention was on the latina girl i liked so she gave up and walked away too. anyways i was thinking to myself, “this is the best work out ever.” the other day on day 2 the older lady had stuck her finger in her mouth and touched her right breast, but this action beat that by far because… this was a group of women competing for my attention to get me to get a hard-on. not only that the winner was the women i had liked but kept rejecting me in the past for my creepiness. also, i noticed an unusual amount of hot women like 8 and 9s in the gym while i was working out so maybe increased T does get one in synchronicity with a sexual vibration that gets you closer to hotter women. (not science, just a guess)

i don’t know, maybe this is a small win. but i’m really happy because the latina girl that runs away from me usually, today, actually got closer and shook her butt around 1 feet away from me and kept looking back towards me from time to time. maybe ignoring her body played a role. maybe she really likes being checked out and it was unusual for me to not stare at her so it forced her into trying to get my attention. or maybe the other girls giving me a semi and giving me IOIs created a competitive spirit in her. either way, i like the outcome and i was very satisfied with my work out session.

day 5.. maybe i am starting to become more aggressive towards wanting women. and my brain is giving me better hints as to what will attract and not scare women away. maybe the non-fapping is returning me to a more normal state where im not sex crazed and can think more clearly.

also something weird.. i went to the dentist today and i usually flirt around and are attracted to the dentist’s apprentices but i wasn’t attracted to them at all. i wonder what happened there. maybe my T increase is making me only attracted to hot women and not normal looking women anymore? but, although i wasn’t really attracted to them at all i noticed myself having longer conversations with them and they were actually opening the conversations on me.

another change i noticed is that i am listening to more upbeat rock music instead of my heavier gangster rap music. i dunno where that shift is coming from either. but it’s a distinct change.

i hope i can make it to a month. i can’t imagine how it might change my life when i can go a month without fapping.

Daniel LA April 3, 2012 at 1:38 am

Ps: sorry again for the TMI. also, right now my body feels as though i had ejaculated. maybe the lack of porn and fapping is being displaced into my social life encounters. the experience at the gym today was so intense that my body is kinda shaking just thinking about it. i think the shaking is coming from that latina girl’s overt behavior. i need to learn how not to get nervous around her and other hot women. hopefully, non-fapping with increase my T enough that i’m not scared of them anymore.

Polyon April 3, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Doesn’t anyone think that these “signals” could just be coincidences? Maybe they’re not actually trying to give you signals at all.

I went 7 days and noticed no difference, except erections in the morning.

Daniel_LA April 3, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Yea it’s possible they could be coincidences.

Daniel LA April 4, 2012 at 1:29 pm

i can’t believe it but i’m at day 6… this link that was posted above was really helpful.. it has inspired me to want to go 90 days.

http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/0.BENEFITS.pdf

i found these two as well that are very inspiring…
http://yourbrainonporn.com/90-days-straight-25-years
http://yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts

as for myself.. one big difference i’m seeing is that i’m getting better at eye contact with women. i am starting to see that a lot of people are actually much shyer than me. if good eye contact happens, a connection can be created and anything can happen from there.

also, i am a cashier and i usually don’t joke around, im sort of a analytical serious type. but i made 2 jokes on 2 different occasions and the women laughed. so maybe that’s progress too.

i’ll just keep the potentially coincidental flirtations to myself.

Paul April 4, 2012 at 3:16 pm

I am currently on my fourth day. I have attempted to start a 7 day cycle before, I lasted 6 days then went back to doing it nearly everyday. I have slowly been cutting down. Its funny that women actually seem drawn to you, I have noticed this the last couple of days. Random women getting close to me for no reason. They must be able to sense it. I am going to try and last 6 weeks now. I want to become a more masculine, assertive and productive guy, I think stopping masturbating will help me to do this.

Daniel LA April 5, 2012 at 10:07 am

Day 7 – last night i almost jiz popped again but i edged it instead. i notice i am less horny when jerkfesting to live porn chat bc i know at the end of it will be no jizz. it makes the whole experience less fun and enjoyable. but at least i didnt jizz. when cashiering, i noticed a few times that when i speak the girls would speak in a high pitched cute voice. i didn’t get that before. usually it felt like they were talking down to me with an aggressive pitch. maybe my voice is lowering and their natural inclination is that high pitched sound. almost feels like we are lovers already. one of the cashier girls who has a boyfriend did an intentional bend over to show her ass tat. that’s rare because her bf is my friend so i try my best not to flirt with her. other than that, i take this stuttering guy home every so often i prolly took that guy home like 30 times already. i have a set route i always take back home. but for some reason, tonight my brain had the ability to think a few images deeper forward to create a route home that was quicker. it has to be the non-fapping. the natural T stored from non-fapping is probably enhancing my thinking skills. but, one negative side effect… my horniness is much lower than before. i think i wanted women a lot more when i was fapping to porn. it’s making me into a gentleman instead of a sex crazed maniac. i don’t know which is worse. but overall.. i think what i lack most is a nice deep lower voice, happiness and stable emotions. if the excess T from non-fapping will bring me those traits to me. it will end up a net positive, worthy of an exchange for that horniness feeling.

so from what i can tell.. i should transform from a…

horny, sex crazed maniac, who attract women easily, but cannot connect or close the deal because of lack of deep voice, sustainable energy, emotional stability, common sense and lack of happiness feelings.

to

mildly horny gentleman with deep voice and better thinking skills, sustainable, happier energy, with emotional stability who connects better with women.

ideally, it should go this way. :D

Lobe April 5, 2012 at 6:40 pm

I started wanking at the ripe age of 7 or 8. I didn’t always wank, but from 8-9 year ago, it’s been almost a daily thing. Never multiple times though, twice at most. I’ve had two relatively long relationships during this time, and the first one, I lost because of excessive masturbation. I would masturbate to this hot ass girl on a magazine every single day to the same chick, and when I was with the GF at night, I didn’t feel like fucking her. Time went by, and the relationship went sour, and we broke up. My second relationship was much better, we had sex on a regular basis, but she always wanted more, and sometime I couldn’t do it cuz I wasn’t horny and I couldn’t get it up! Anyway, I knew that I masturbated too much to be health, but I just kept going, until I made a resolve to slow down, and luckily I found this blog which I read everyday to keep me going. I tell you, I’m on day 12, and my life has changed. Up until the 6th or 7th day, I was on fire, so MUCH energy! I could think straight; I had visual difficulty with my left eye, now it’s gone!
I’m much more social with people I meet, I don’t go the other way if I see someone I don’t wanna have a conversation with, now I go for it. Although I must say, my heightened sexual desire has plateaued a bit, I enjoy this feeling of clarity.
I definitely see a difference with the girls. At work, the chicks I work with are trying to look better, one even ditched the glasses! the other one is now wearing lipstick. DAmn!
I’m going out this weekend looking to ravage someone, and I do have a few prospects. I’ll release on Sunday though, and go through the cycle again! I will update you guys on what takes place.
Let’s keep writing about our experiences and learn from each other.

Daniel LA April 5, 2012 at 10:45 pm

Day 8 irritable or honest? when driving. usually i don’t really get mad at other drivers, but today i saw my myself honestly criticizing action of other bad drivers aloud. really unusual bc i’ve been raised to be congenial and polite. maybe this is the type of aggressiveness needed to do well in life and with women. i can see how this energy can be used to defend myself when being attacked by others. i usually go the ghandi route and stay pacifist in all situations. hopefully this energy doesn’t get out of hand and i can control it’s use when necessary.

cool April 6, 2012 at 5:13 am

Daniel, you must be contributing the most to this section :-)
About your agressiveness, I believe it comes together with abstaining, more energy/T and you’re becoming more “alpha”, and in a way you are correct. Just think back, alphas had to defend their territory and intimidate the rest, and it was plain simple how to do it = bruteness.

I have noticed something like this also, however it’s not really helpful for me, as I get really pissed (my chess matches for e.g.).

Daniel LA April 6, 2012 at 11:17 am

Day 9 morning… upon waking… out of the ordinary.. started doing stretches where i felt my body was feeling unlively. spontaneous thought pops up.. “where is the true man within me?” i think a lot of my manliness is mimicry of other men, not an authentic manliness that comes from within me. unoriginal copy of other alphas. sperm is what allows us to procreate. it is the center of our creative energies. so… it makes sense that storing that energy will enhance our creative energies. with this increase of creative powers and T, my mind is not satisfied with being a copy of other alphas. it is longing to create something on it’s own. it wants to become an original alpha. the real deal.

also, i never do this, while i was stretching… i started to shadow box on the images of current and historical friends. usually i am a forgive and forget kind of person. but, i decided to shadow box on their images to relieve whatever spite i had against them. it was very relieving, i just hope this doesn’t happen in the physical world. i don’t need jail time. it won’t happen.

also i had a dream, one of my old best friends who has an IQ of 148.. he kept saying to me..”you done fucked up” over and over. bc of his intelligence he has always been above me. in the dream, i just head butted his face and he finally shut up. lol when i woke up i had to check my head to see if it was bleeding cuz that headbutt felt genuine. lol

Daniel LA April 6, 2012 at 11:19 am

@cool.. yes, it’s a bruteness… i actually am able to summon that bruteness through affirmations, but it’s not a natural thing that just flows from my self. i really have to muster it up to happen. i think i have mastered a lot of alpha skills through practice, affirmations, but i think this version of alpha is more authentic bc it is being created by your own T.

Jeff April 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm

First, I want to thank the author for this article.

Started the abstinence program a first time and lasted 4 days. A few observations:
-Stable, rock hard feeling in my gut (felt unshakeable and fearless)
-Regular women excite me (don’t need the crazy dolled up hollywood type)
-Stronger, fuller, more sensitive erections
-Men exhibiting beta traits around me
-Women seem to be in a trance when speaking to me; while also looking to fill awkward gaps in conversation

I want to clarify that I experienced all of this without hitting the gym. I barely left my home for those 4 days (only to eat, I also work from home). I also eat like shit (a lot of fast food). I am really interested to see how things will pan out once I start eating raw/high protein foods and begin hitting the gym.

On the night of day 4 I visited a non-hardcore amateur website. Without wanting to blew the biggest load I had ever seen/felt (was trying to masturbate without ejaculating; a lot harder than you think). Prior to starting the program, I was masturbating at least once a day. I am 25 and have been masturbating since the age of 13 and while I have been with a good number of women over the course of my life, I have never had sex with a woman feeling like I did on day 4. I will update once I hit my goal of 2 weeks.

p27 April 6, 2012 at 1:55 pm

hey guys i’m on day 4 and i’ve read this entire blog post and all of its comments. everything is very interesting and i’m definitely seeing some extra motivation to do things that I know I should do but normally don’t. a little background I’m 25 years old and have been masturbating since 12 almost daily. prior to stumbling upon this page the week before i began i’ve been doing it twice daily and i knew it was such a waste of time so i decided to look into it.

ever since stopping, my work outs are getting more intense. i’ve been staying home lately but will go out tonight to see if there is a difference in interaction with women. i have noticed since adopting a healthier life style (raw foods, juicing) the attention I get from women has increased. i plan on trying the 7 day abstinence and then pay closer attention to days 7-10 to see if there is a drop for me.

i did find something very interesting i thought i’d like to share. i stumbled upon a TED talk about “10 things you didn’t know about orgasm” and the speaker Mary Roach states:

“…Another way that orgasm might boost fertility … Sperm that sits around in the body for a week or more start to develop abnormalities that make them less effective at head banging their way into the egg.”

British Sexologist Roy Levin (sp?) has speculated that “This is perhaps why men have evolved to become such enthusiastic and frequent masturbators. If I keep tossing my self off I keep fresh sperm being made.”

Theory: Is this related to the peak of T-levels of abstaining in the 7th day and then such a sudden drop off? It could be due to the abnormalities being developed in the sperm and that’s why there is a drop off. Very interesting.

Here’s a link to the video.

http://www.ted.com/talks/mary_roach_10_things_you_didn_t_know_about_orgasm.html

9:55 mark

Daniel LA April 6, 2012 at 3:24 pm

i think 7 days is enough. excessive masturbation on a daily basis might mess with T, but if you go too long without release, yea, no fresh sperm. plus, you start to feel like a monk. your sexual vibe drops a little. jizz popped on 9th day with 2 minutes of porn. that’s pretty bad because before it took me 30mins to 1 hour to jizz. the load was medium, but for some reason it flew really far. my keyboard is crying to be cleaned.

Ed April 9, 2012 at 7:35 am

Coming up for week two tommorrow. That is when I start to get a good feeling. One could argue that doing this is similar to taking t shot or supplements.

Mike April 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm

I stopped jacking 10 years ago. I was severely addicted to it. So,when I hear guys say that they can barely get through 3 days, in a way it seems outlandish now, but I can understand it. I was there. Masturbation replaces real sex. It gets you in the habit of continually short circuiting your sex drive for something cheap. So masturbation is not pro-sex. It’s anti-sex. I love sex. I’m different with a woman now that I don’t masturbate. For me there was the deep underlying feeling of something that I wasn’t proud of. Masturbation conditions you to be stimulated by mechanical means rather than stimulated by your thoughts and feelings. When you are with a woman you will feel a lot better and she will too, when being close to her does more for your erection than how much up and down motion you are getting . Without masturbation you are worth 10 times more to a woman sexually. It’s an addiction like nicotine or opiates. When the cycle is broken it is very easy to abstain. The easiest way to do it is with the support of a real woman that loves sex and doesn’t masturbate herself. Quitting was the best thing I ever did, not to decrease my pleasure, but to increase it many times over. Very few men understand this.

Daniel LA April 11, 2012 at 1:31 am

damn mike, that testimony makes me want to try abstaining again… i’ve been satisfied lately from dropping from daily to 3-4 times a week. although it’s not perfect, it’s progress. i think in my case, i use supplements, so it seems like i get similar benefits from them. but…. i think the natural route of non-fap has a pronounced effect on women.

Ed April 13, 2012 at 8:58 pm

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?s=c659c997d38a8be80ed86356bed2487b&t=405185&page=2
This is a little about edging. Agree Teterone has a profound effect on women.

Ed April 14, 2012 at 9:11 am
p27 April 14, 2012 at 12:02 pm

“Another practice common to porn users is edging while viewing porn. This is masturbating up to the edge of orgasm, then stopping to cool things down, then revving up again. This is probably worse than simply having an orgasm and getting it over with. Edging keeps the dopamine levels near their peak, while at the same time reinforcing the addiction pathways associated with porn. Edging without porn, or an orgasm, is not a solution, because it keeps dopamine (and thus cravings for more) very high. Edging without orgasm leads to feelings of dissatisfaction, strong urges, and usually ends in a porn binge.”

http://yourbrainonporn.com/what-if-i-use-porn-without-orgasm

Ed April 14, 2012 at 7:17 pm

Edging is probably not cheating, if you are going to lapse it is a better option.

Rob April 15, 2012 at 2:10 am

This dude stopped masturbating/porn,and his testosterone went up.He got proof pics:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144025971

Ed April 15, 2012 at 4:44 am

I pretty much believe it, I know there are a lot of sceptics.

Tim April 15, 2012 at 4:36 pm

oh my.
It’s been 5 days and I feel like a new man.
It’s funny, I blamed all my emotional problems on marijuana/coffee/sleep-deprivation without giving masturbation much thought. what a mistake that was…

As it turns out, not wanking it makes all the difference. I’m almost the opposite as I was before:
-severe social anxiety has been replaced with natural swagger and borderline cockiness (no pun intended)
-weak libido has transformed into raging libido
-I swear I even look better in the mirror. I look myself in the eye and think “damn, I wanna do you.” just kidding. but seriously.
-and women respond to me in a whole new way. I swear, every single girl I walk by flicks her hair or licks her lips. Just now I was in the cafeteria, and there are all these mom’s and their kids taking tours of my college, and two milfs straight-up approached me and seemed eager for a good spanking. It’s like I’m giving off some invisible energy force that attracts females. But when I spank it all the time, I think my energy force repels them.

This transformation of spirit has even translated to academics. For the first time in two months, I have the motivation to start writing this brutal 20 page paper.
I feel busting with confidence overall, almost fearless.
I feel like a man. Finally.
honestly, this might just be the best thing I’ve ever done for myself.

another_follower April 15, 2012 at 7:40 pm

hello crew,

i have been following this post for over a year now… as many of you, i’ve had ups and downs, been on and off. so what i’ve noticed/experienced is:
it is directly related how hard it is gonna be to abstain, and the frequency of “self-amusement” before that; trouble getting asleep; really HARD times in the mornings (in both meanings =]); increased aggressivenes and not-give-a-shitness; feeling more energetic and less apathic/tranquil.
now about that “women-sensing-IT thing”…. i don’t know how you guys look, but i don’t find myself too ugly nor too handsome… but i NEVER see anything like you are describing here… i’m not an idiot and i know how they are supposed to show/express those hints/signals, but i’m telling you- I NEVER GET ANYTHING like that… it is actually hard to believe many of your reports of women behaviour while “on the program”.
and last thing- since i’m not an athlete nor a student, there is no need for me for that extra aggressiveness in work-sleep-work life. that extra T or dopamine, or reduced prolactin, or whatever only causes unnecessary frustration ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_frustration ). so to me personally it is only a choice between this or depression and apathy if i return to “the habit”.

definitely still a subscriber here,

cheers!

that other guy April 16, 2012 at 12:11 pm

wow iv been reading this post and I’m really motivated to see how nt wanking helps in catching girls, I have a gf of 9 months and we have agreed to not have sex for a while so iv been trying to see if I can’t replace normal intercourse with masterbation so I went and researched it and all I get is wanking is good for you and how you shud do it regularly, that’s bullshit as the earlier poster Kambe said it doesn’t help much. I remeber this 1 period in my life I’d do it every time I was left alone In the house and even waiting till every1 went to bed. The feeling of tiredness really annoyed me. I stopped for a while but ddnt see any effect except wanting to do it again and again. It seems like stopping for a long while helps in getting girls but I’m not intrested in that. Anyway I’m also going to start this and see where it lands me coz I was really thinking of wanking instead of having full sex with my girlfriend.

that other guy April 16, 2012 at 12:20 pm

Oh ja, I remember recently iv just been a hit with girls- last time I pulled the string was on friday and on sunday I met these other girls at a mall and hell they were all over me and my usual awkwardness was gone. I think I shud go strong and see how far I can go…

mr.crash April 16, 2012 at 5:23 pm

i wanna thank all of you for sharing your stories!

i was in great shame and felt like a sack of shit untill i found this epic thread!

i am 25 year old man from Europe, i’ve been jerking the gurking since i was 7 years old, 3-4-5 times a day! and y’all can trust me when i tell you how much i liked it! until…..

until i found out that i had jerked myself into a very sexual depression. i searched the web hoping to find some answers and get some clearance, but all i could seem to find was the IT’S ALL GOOD SON, PULL YOUR SNAPPER!!! sign.. it was all over the web, but luckily i found this thread and got into it right away!

in my first attempt i went for 14 days without yanking it…

the first couple of days i felt frustrated, i was full of anger and fear..

after 4-5 days i started to feel DAMN good about myself, and this feel just escalated trough the rest of my attempt.

then.. i woke up on frieday the 13th, i had a raging boner and i could not controll myself, so i grabbed it han beat it as hard as i could and then it happend… MY FUCKING EYES ROLLED BACKIN INTO THE BACK OF MY SKULL AND I MOANED LIKE A FUCKING APE!!! after that i felt REAL REAL good for about a minute!

then my whoe life started to suck ass again and i became so sad about it..

well!! this is now my second attempt – day 4! i am starting to feel those good vibrations again, and next time i feel like i can’t control myself, i will just hurry to get my ass out of be and get my mind straight!!

again… i thank all of you for your stories.. you are all LIFE SAVERS!!!!

cheers! >)

Daniel LA April 16, 2012 at 11:42 pm

@tim awesome post good stuff!!
@mrcrash nice dude!!!

for myself.. day 10.. sick so stuck near 80% but can tell there is something to this non-fapping… i will continue this for a while.

that other guy April 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm

Day 1, no change at all, altho I’m a bit less sleepy but was tired the whole day. This is like a mega awesome page and sucks to all parents and teachers telling you that its good for you…

Daniel LA April 17, 2012 at 10:59 pm

day 2 coming off day10… i felt an enormous sense of well being at one point during the night. i haven’t felt like that in a 2 decades. also, i caught myself laughing at things, which was kinda weird laughing by myself, but i felt a happiness there. i believe non-fapping gets you in touch with your emotions and allows clearer thinking. the other week i realized that i should not stare at women for too long. so lately, i’ve been using the affirmation, “never stare” it was really really hard in the beginning but i got so good at it that now it’s no longer a problem. but a cool unexpected side effect from this “never stare” is that i now have total control over my mind. i can calm my mind in an instant now. the logic is this… if i can control myself not to stare at big titties, nice asses, and hot women…. not staring at depressing or anxious thoughts is so easy. it’s the exact same mechanism… instead of not starting at big titties, i can now just not stare at depressive or anxious thoughts. i think non-fapping is resetting my self control, my mind and my emotions. i think the extra T is allowing me to use all my functions fully. it is awesome. the T is naturally guiding myself into a healthful condition.

just one T brag.. i was walking on the shoreline and this lady started to adjust her bikini top and when i was right about next to her she let out her whole right boob, nipple and all. that was kinda awesome.

ED April 18, 2012 at 4:44 am

I am on my third week and aside from edging a little from time to time have not lapsed. From time to time I get incredibly horny, I am trying to resist as I think you experience a real sensce of wellbeing after a month. I am working out five times a week and surfing regularly, I do feel I am getting more attention that is for sure, the sense of improved well being is undeniable that is for sure.
I genuinely believe that if you make it a priority to cut fap out, you will be rewarded in the long term with the kind of partner you desire, sometimes that is difficult to grasp as I don’t go out gaming a great deal, but it is just a hunch that if I stick with it I will be rewarded.

George April 19, 2012 at 3:30 am

Today marks my 28th day of abstinence. It’s been with ups and downs, but I made it. And I can still continue. I’m pretty much indifferent of women right now..i can ignore them on the street and don’t bother getting their attention. And I feel indifferent of porn as well..i like watching pictures of nude / sexy women now..I don’t know why :)
My only problem right now is getting the right mental attitude..the famed focused mindset that you guys have been talking about. I’ve always had a problem with motivation anyways..like a brain fog that keeps me from achieving things. I know it’s mostly in my mind, but damn it’s hard to get motivated :)

Daniel_LA April 19, 2012 at 11:51 pm

Day 10 then 2 then 2… Wow that second fap really screwed me up… Now I know what days the Girls start running from me. It’s consecutive days of fapping that causes it. When things are good I attract Girls from 1 mile away.. After 2 faps its the polar opposite they are literally running! Lol I think women can smell or sense a creepy energy or alpha energy from a mile away. Wow when it’s good it’s really good but when it’s bad it’s really bad. I should stop fapping once and fOr all… Women running is not good for my self esteem lol!!!

that other guy April 20, 2012 at 12:11 am

Day 4. Well its da morning so I’ll see as the day progreses, last night was the worst and the afternoon also, I nearly broke down and finally fap bt chose to be strong, never thot I could resist such a temptation. Day 3 wasn’t that bad, surges of irritation swept through me but other than that nothing. But I can’t seem to be attracting them ladies!! Ok I knw I’m a taken guy but still… ah well still have to go through day 4.

Ed April 20, 2012 at 4:01 am

Lasted 25 days got a very hot Chinese girl to give me a happy ending. I have pretty much quit fapping, just needed that bit of relief. Funny thing was a few minutes afterwards a car load of girls started giggling at me. Almost like they could sense it.

Raman April 22, 2012 at 11:39 am

Hello,
I been abstaining from masturbation for past 8 day. And trying for 7 days cycle. But my concerns here are, since i been masturbating for quite a long time now if i suddenly stop doing it will it have any impact on my penis for example: will my penis will take a curve or any other penis related problem.

Matt Savage April 22, 2012 at 8:47 pm

Hey guys, thought you might be interested in this great recent Ted Talk from Gary Wilson who runs Your Brain on Porn blog. It basically breaks down the effects of porn usage on men and takes a look at guys like us who are actively trying quit.

Alpha>beta April 23, 2012 at 9:04 am

Things iv noticed since stopping improved skin less facial redness less acne, hair grows faster thicker, body is feeling toned and firmir, resistance to cold weather, more confidince less anxiety, better eye contact, noticing the little things in life and girls seem to be more attractivd to me this whole abstaining thing works guys iv been at it for a while on and off, you will notice improvment after 2 straight werks of no sexual thoughts or edging stay strong trust me

KingG April 23, 2012 at 2:15 pm

2 weeks no sexual thoughts ? Pretty much impossible ;)
The following is for acne sufferers :
It’s been a month for me..a full month ! To be honest the only reason i agreed to this “no fap” experiment is that I still have some acne / easy irritable skin. And i’ll be frank.. my condition has improved. Perhaps my crappy genetics will prevent me from having a really nice skin like most people..but it’s ok as it is right now.
So for people that are wondering about no masturbation effects on acne..it’s safe to say that things will improve..and for some even 99% gone!
Main reason I think is Zinc. Zinc is an important mineral found in our body that helps with skin healing(scars/infections etc), regulates testosterone production, helps the prostate function properly, improves immune system,healthy muscle tissues and so on.
When you ejaculate you actually lose zinc(and other nutrients) because zinc keeps your little guys healthy and running towards their goal :)
Don’t expect miracles right away..but if you are doing this for the same reasons as I am..take a Zinc supplement each day for a while.
Like 30Mg divided into 2 pills of 15Mg each. In the morning and afternoon. Just make sure you eat something and then take it otherwise it might upset your stomach. You should also consider taking a multivitamin that contains Copper, Iron, Selenium and Magnesium (but no more that 100% max allowed daily intake dose). Since we are taking 200% zinc it might interfere with the absorption of other minerals :)
Good luck !

I am still gonna continue this “experiment” although I miss the deep sexy voice I had in the first week..seems to be gone for a while :(

Alpha>beta April 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm

^ionic zinc is what you need its balanced with copper and other stuff and absorbs easily and i didnt mean no sexual thoughts at all i still have them just try to block them when they come up so you dont get the urge to spank it and to the acne thing i dont have acne i have facial redness and dry skin and it has really improved so i take not spaking having good skin getting girls over spaking bad skin no girls anytime

Maelstrom April 23, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Hello,
I’ve been abstaining for 9 days now. The first week was very tough. I had a erection all the time. But on the 7 day and on it stopped. I can still get an erection but i have to think about it for a while to get it going. I have a bet more energy.

I use to go to bed around midnight after wanking it and would wake up around 11 or noon. No i go to bed around midnight but wake up at 8 naturally, so now I’m not wasting my day.

The reason I wanted to start this was because I’ve read a lot about the benefits on not doing it and I wanted to see if it works and I was tired of feeling depressed and tired every time after masturbating.

I’m 21 right now and want to get full control over this problem. I planned on abstaining for 2 weeks, but i feel pretty good so I think I’ll just stick with it. I feel no need to masturbate anymore.

I really look forward to what I’ll feel like when I hit 3 weeks of not doing it. I want my voice to get a little deeper too.

Alpha>beta April 23, 2012 at 3:13 pm

It will get deeper without you even noticing

Maelstrom April 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm

@Alpha>beta

perfect :)

Alpha>beta April 23, 2012 at 3:32 pm

Just stay focused on life it self and things will come to you consider your self a magnet

mr.crash April 24, 2012 at 11:13 am

damn!! so i went for 9 days this time and then i failed misserable, spending 2 days jerking off! not to porn tho..

tomorrow is gunna be a whole new start for me, come to think of it, i wish that i could lay of the masturbation for good!

it seems like masturbation is the main key dragging me down, i hope to succeed this time and make the masturbation be gone for good!

this is my third attempt so wish me good luck!

that other guy April 25, 2012 at 8:23 am

Today marks my 9th day . I nearly gave up until I came back here and watched that video from Tedx. That made my resolcve stronger, my motivational levels have increased but so has my horniness levels. Feel like going to any girl and asking them to come to my place but sadly I can’t. Will keep on going for as long as I can manage…

James Gray April 25, 2012 at 9:45 am

I’m on day 2 again, but I’ve made it to day seven before and it was a great feeling. Some steps I use to stop masterbation is only go on the computer when you have to, Get out of your house , And if you really are about to explode hop right in a shower with the the water a little below warm not to cold tho.. or just always stay out and about…

Bryan April 26, 2012 at 12:15 am

My only problem with this article is that when I go 7 days abstaining and I actually get lucky, if I’m not wasted I’ll last 45 seconds if I’m lucky.

that other guy April 26, 2012 at 4:05 am

day 10. feeling ok. woke up energetic and full of strength .did my daily excersises and i didnt struggle like how i would usually do. i even made some notable progress in my breakdancing as i am still a beginner and upper body strength is verry crucial. Noticed that i look at women with more lustful eyes than ever. TS levels must be peaking very high… will continue being strong…

Maelstrom April 26, 2012 at 10:52 am

Relapsed today. It would have been 13 days. I’m already tired. I used my fleshlight, and then I decided to throw it away. It’s already in the trash bag outside. I used the FL a lot to masturbate, hope throwing it away will help.

Ed May 1, 2012 at 6:40 pm

I think fappin sucks the life out of men, if it is done too often. The porn industry is exploiting men by getting them addicted and high speed internet is only accelerating it. At the moment it is an issue which is not really spoken about, given time when they start to finally address men’s issues, will there be any awareness of this subject.

Black abstainer May 1, 2012 at 11:59 pm

Hey, I’ve Spent 2 hours reading your guy’s post. I have been insecure, lazy, and unmotivated for long time, Mainly it was because I am Black and felt different from everyone. Recently, I’ve been researching spiritual stuff and I came across this some how. I an on day 2 and a half and I have noticed an increase in my vibratory and testosterone levels. I have also been experimenting with Cold showers, Kegel Exercises, Headstands to keep to my Testerone Level. You guys have really motivated me!! I Intend to use my sexual energy to increase my IQ (early 100′s) and to use my newly found positive energy to manifest something through Law of Attraction. I’m 16 and I have recently quit a year of non-stop wacker tacking.

My observations so far is an increase in confidence, Sorry no epic stories about attracting women yet, besides it’s only been 2 and a half days. I’m Also Planning to Flirt with the girl I like This Friday (when I’m close to peaking). Then releasing on Saturday and if not next week. I have also started a pullup regime. And i have improved concentration.

If you guys can’t Fight the urge Just look to future and Happy experiences you will get from doing NOTHING :)

Keep your hands dry and I intend to post this Saturday. Stay with me Guys.

Ed May 2, 2012 at 7:27 am
David May 2, 2012 at 1:53 pm

I have done no masturbation and no porn for about two months now, I have been failing a couple of times, but I’m getting better at it. It is pretty amazing what this has done to me. Best thing is that I feel fucking great, like walking in the crowd and knowing I am the man. More confidence and energy. Wow, sometimes I have so much energy I wanna freaking run across my town.. Freaking great feeling!!! I feel like wanna go out and do new stuff. Get motivation to reach my goals, and it feels s easy! I get alot of other benefits: Girls get more attracted to me. My muscles is more visible. My skin is clearer. So many.. I get freaking horny 4-5 times a day, if I see a hot ass..:p ANd wake up with a boner every morning, but that’s actually freaking great. It feel great to be horny! You just have to master not to masturbate. I still gonna do this for a long time.. I don’t say that I am never gonna masturbate again, but I will never watch porn again. That messes up with your brain..

Love what you wrote man! Keep it going. Pease

Black abstainer May 2, 2012 at 6:18 pm

@David Are You Attracting Girls Yet? And Not Even Trying?

another_follower May 2, 2012 at 6:29 pm

are there any guys here who felt/feel unattractive most of their lives, but after trying this thing for any amount of time, noticed attention from women? ‘cuz i know i don’t and that was kind of main point of this, right…? i mean- why would i need that extra energy just to fuel my frustration and other negative emotions…

Alpha>beta May 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm

Are you in style do you have a nice haircut maintained nose hairs eye brows clean clothes and especially clean shoes girls look at all that stuff

Black abstainer May 2, 2012 at 9:47 pm

@Another Follower

How long have you been abstaining? Try Taking Cold showers I also found that to boast your testosterone and whatever you do don’t go back to binge jerking .

@Alpha>Beta
I’m Black so 80% of The Girls In This Country Will Definitely Reject Me. And How Long Have You Been Abstaining Has It Worked For you? Are You A Hive Attracting Bees?

Black abstainer May 2, 2012 at 9:51 pm

Hey Guys, I’m also wondering if i can use the masculine and positive energy gained from abstinence for Law of Attraction and manifestation.

cool May 3, 2012 at 8:36 am

@Black abstainer
just what alpha>beta said, just abstaining doesn’t do the cut, you have to look the part, act the part and in a way, just be. Abstaining is more like a bonus/benefit, than a key factor.

And in what kind of country are you in that 80% of females will reject you due to your skin color? Sounds exaggerated, though I can’t be sure.

mr.crash May 3, 2012 at 9:18 am

i am again at day 9!

everything feels fucking great and just keeps getting better, last night i had one of those wet dreams! i dreamt that i was sucking on the teet of a beautiful woman and i fucked her real good and came in the dream and here come the funny side of the story! the woman i fucked in my dream became pregnant and left me hahaha… @ me, ALLWAYS WEAR A RUBBER!!!

even tho i totally busted my nuts in my dreams there was no signs of fluid or anything.

this is my third attempt, in the first attempt i went for about 15 days, i started to feel real damn good about my self on day 12-15.. after this i slipped up and woke up one morning with my cock in my hand and i could not fight the urge, so i just blew my load and made myself misserable again hehe..!

on my second attempt i went for nine days and i started to feel good as hell, then i woke up a morning feeling so horny and i could not control it… that day i spanked the monkey way too many times! again i felt back into the dark pits…!

now i am here on my third attempt and it is the 9th day… i have not set a goal or nothing! i just wants to keep it up as long as i can control myself.

i’ve noticed, the women are giving me much more attention than they used to.. this is great and during the day i get random erections just thinking about a womans ass! hehe.. can you all imagine what would happen when i would be exposed to a real womans hot naked body?

shiiiit! i bet my cock would turn to steel and then the girl would be like WOOOW! THAT IS ONE HARD COCK!!!

well… this abstinence shit have changed my life in so many ways, i used to be insecure and not very outgoing, then i tried this abstinence shit and i have never felt as good about myself as i do now…

I AM SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH AND GRAMMAR..!!
>D >D >D

Black abstainer May 3, 2012 at 6:38 pm

@Cool

AMERICA!!! No girls like black guys were the most worst looking ever next to the aborigine’s of Australia. I’m completely different from most of the people in this country. your hair is straight and mine is curly. your nose is thin and mine is jew-like. your forehead is big and mine is small. I just don’t think I’ll ever attract any girls being a black guy. I got rejected by a Guatemalan girl for being black (she even said it).

Do I look that Bad? : http://s1093.photobucket.com/albums/i422/Jamil_Tucker/

Black abstainer May 3, 2012 at 6:41 pm

@ Mr.Crash

Awesome!!! Are you Attracting women without approaching them?

Black abstainer May 3, 2012 at 6:47 pm

I’m on 4 and half days btw

Ed May 3, 2012 at 7:21 pm

I have been going for a while now at this, the only relief I get is from a female, last night I felt really horny and it took a great deal of self control so I harnessed that energy and had a really great workout, I am using this to increase some of my lifts in the gym. What kind of distracts me is seeing a women in black tights, stockings, I really have to grab that energy. I find approaching a bit easier, it a real test of willpower, there is no doubt about that.

Mattias May 3, 2012 at 7:38 pm

@ Black abstainer. You look fine, man. Like a regular guy. Don’t sweat it. From what I can glean from your posts you’re also intelligent. Just stay cool and be yourself. Don’t copy the hip hop gangsta types though, they have a bad rep. Question: Do you mainly hit on black chicks?

To all: There are other sites that suggests a reboot over a month or more. No porn, no masturbation, no orgasm. I’m not sure which method to choose – this cyclical one or the extreme rebooting variation. Some who have rebooted tells about total loss of libido for periods, and severe withdrawal symptoms. Others say the effects have been sunshine and harmony and increased sexdrive. I need both a more lively libido and erections I can rely on.

cool May 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm

@Black Abstainer
You look like a normal person, stay positive all the time, if you even start contemplating things as you’ve written it’ll only get worse Be optimistic and happy.

As for all, I must say this isn’t just about dropping the “chicken choking” act, but in fact a change in a lifestyle. One must be committed. After my last failure I decided to quit it once and for all, started balancing my diet, intensifying my workouts. I became more ambitious, as it is not only just wanking, but a complete life changing set.

But now, the thing I discovered yesterday, what matters the most is the emotional state you are in. You are happy, you might even forget about porn or busting a nut, even if you’re working in front of your pc whole day, whereas where you are sad/disturbed/stressed even uncertain about something in the future, it influences your ability to abstain (in a bad way), and thought of just peeking at porn comes to your mind. And then you do, and then you bust a nut, feel better for the moment, yet worse overall. It’s like a vicious cycle, and I am sure some person has said these exact words before in the above comments, but it might not be from the emotional perspective.

It might be one thing to read about different experiences, ideas, etc. but your own experience is always different and stays with you, just as a saying goes, you can try to learn from others’ mistakes, but you’ll never learn from theirs as you’ll learn from yours. Yesterday I was about to do something silly, but this thing dawned on me, and I am a happy person now once again :-)

[we discover something new every day]

Jake May 3, 2012 at 9:16 pm

@Black Abstainer I don’t know where YOU’RE from, but from my high school in Arkansas chicks go out of their way to date a black dude.

Black abstainer May 3, 2012 at 10:22 pm

@ Mattias Well thanks, I’m not really into hip hop or that gangster stuff like my dad and brother, I like to listen to lyricless beats though. Personally, I Like Old fashion things like training my willpower, reading books on thinking, Increasing Intelligence and I guess my goal is to be ” The Most Interesting Man in The World”. Cool Huh?

Answer: No, And I don’t find myself attracted to white women either for some reason. The girls that turn me on the most are Latinas, Mediterraneans , Asians. I don’t hate black women I just don’t find them attractive.

@Cool Are you attracting girls in the gym? And when girls show you more that means your supposed to show them more, That’s right workout with just pants on!!

@Jake I’m in California, But I’ve never had a girlfriend. I’m a bit of a contradiction, I’m Nerdish but at the same time I’m not anyone’s bitch, I live in a fantasy world for imagery but I always try to make my dreams come true in this world. I can be cowardly, But i become brave when someone attacks me. Maybe once i get my original Testosterone levels back I might get my confidence, and with that a motivation to be productive society and not someone like my father who waste his life away by getting women pregnant and saying he cares for his children.

wiscoguy May 6, 2012 at 10:24 pm

So im on day 8 of no fap and here is what I think. Its clear to me now that masturbating and looking at porn are two completely different problems. After not masturbating for a week I see more energy, a clearer mindset, quicker recovery in the gym, a deeper voice, more social, less anxious, less sleep but overall a big and positive change. Now, while I havent masturbated all week I still looked at porn at random points during the week, just too get hard and then I would stop, I guess it was just an urge to see if I could still get hard. But after going to the mall yesterday something hit me. Although there were a lot of fine looking girls my natural instinct of trying to make a connection with them was not really there. I was getting a decent amount of looks due to my lower voice and better posture which made it clear that im attractive to them but not so much vice-versa. At first I thought that my testosterone was low do to being tired from working out but now that I think about it……its the porn. I realize now that porn takes away my desire and the lust from meeting girls….i mean why would my brain want to be stimulated by clothed girls in real life when its seeing naked hotties online. By getting its dose of sexual dopamine with porn there is no need to get it in real life. Now with just one day of not looking at any porn I can feel the sexual tension in me rise, I can already feel the testosterone fueling the lust. This has made it obvious that although a big problem as a whole, masturbating and porn are two completely different problems. Im going to continue not masturbating and will stop looking at any and all types of pornographic stimulation. Hopefully this makes sense to anyone reading this, and i will continue to post my discoveries. Nofap, Noporn

mr.crash May 7, 2012 at 4:35 am

this is my 13th day, last night i was soooo horny!

i decided to play for myself and promised myself whatever happend i would not let myself cum, i lubed up the sucker and yanked and played with it for about one hour then after that hour i was on the verge of exploding my ball juice all over the place, but!! i could now feel that i should not go any further and so i put the dick down and took me one of those cold coooold showers… overall i felt pretty fucking happy about the whole situation! i mean here i was playing with myself wih no porn without having an orgasm !?

i went to bed and slept real good and had alot of dreams, then early in the morning i had a wet dream about me fucking the shit out of some pretty ass girl i met at the supermarket lol..

so in the dream i really gave it to her and then finaly it happend.. I WAS ABOUT TO BURST, AND AS I CAME IN THE DREAM I WOKE UP FROM MY DEEP SLEEP AND CAME A WHOLE SHITLOAD OF CUM IN MY BOXERS!!!

at first i was thinking nooo nooo what the hell did i do!?!? after this i realized that even tho i had ejaculated from a dream my pulse or heart rate did not really go up during the happening itself, so i wonderd to myself, would i feel all bad and shit afterwards ?!

i went to the bathroom and looked in the mirror… i looked for that very special glance in my eyes that i’ve gained during abstinence and guess what you sorry mother fuckers… IT WAS STILL THERE!!!

i still can’t belive it.. i fucking jizzed in my sleep and i don’t have no sense of shame or bad feeling about it at all!!

this is truly a new discovery…

whadda you think guys? i have not relapsed have i ?
i mean, since i have not jerked and ejaculated myself… this case is more like something that happend while i was fucking uncontious in my sleep.. isn’t this NATURES way of getting rid of that seemen overload ?

cheers.. day 13th still going strong!

cool May 7, 2012 at 9:36 am

Mr. Crash, you have, what do you think, this edging means nothing? Just stop tricking/lying to yourself, you’re the one that wants this change, nobody else.

mr.crash May 7, 2012 at 9:57 am

@ cool.

but i did no ejaculate while edging… hell, i don’t agree with you on this one mate! i can not be held responsible for ejaculating trough wet dreams.

even tho i have edged to get a little hapiness back into my life… that does not mean that i jerked of and ejaculated, leaving myself in a depressed mode as usual…

alot of guys on here mentioned they become a little off after some weeks and so i read a post with one guy mentioning edging. this guy was right about it, it actually works if you don’t bust your damn nuts. i don’t think i have relapsed, which means > going back into the sad old bad habbit pleasing myself just to feel misserable.

cool May 7, 2012 at 1:40 pm

This is what I meant when I said “lying to yourself”. This is not my business at all, if you want to look for loopholes/shortcuts etc. it is your choice, but the fact remains,. Let me explain:
you edge yourself, therefore any simple sexual encounter in “dream world” is enough [to bust], however, most likely it would not have such significant effect if there was no edging.

THERE IS NO RULE “BUST YOUR NUT OR NOT”, the only thing there is: are you ready or not (to let go of it, and start a new episode of your life). In your case, it seems that you are just not ready yet. I’ve been in your place before, but now that I think of it, it sounds like a joke (edging part), I am happy that I realised it, I hope you will realise it also.

mr.crash May 7, 2012 at 3:42 pm

@ cool

one will allways try to find he’s way trough the maze, short or not >P…

i gotta give it to you, you really breaks down what this edging makes one in a dream, capable of >) thanks man..!

speaking in terms of psychology. the way is sees it, one can trick the mind. by edging, especially! if any sexual occurence is present during the dream.

this will make me blast aload off in my dream, and that way i won’t have to deal with it when i am awake and alert and or aware… >P and it does not give me any of those bad feelings or affects me in a bad way… or, so it seems… >P

my main problem is that i got a bad feeling after spanking the monkey, i did get to feel bad about myself and lost my confidence and what not,

today i’ve felt no difference or change in my inner state of mind even tho i ejaculated in a dream. it must really be all in my head know?

eventually i may do a little edging now and then, but i have no intention of going back to the old habbits, degrading myself with porn and self satisfaction no more…

well.. one can only take one step after the other, erh!?

maybe one day i’ll have some views that are kind of similar to yours!

one step of the time, ooooone step of the time…! >)

Black abstainer May 9, 2012 at 9:48 pm

I’m still in the game day 11. Haven’t noticed much differences yet. Still not gonna fap tho.

Rakso Eel May 10, 2012 at 5:23 am

Is it better to abstain for 7 days and lets say on day 8 you ejacualte? Or do you have to stay abstain for as long as you can? I get it that you will get the peak on day 7 after abstaining from masturbating. So if you abstain for as long as you can, this will happen again on day 14 and so on?

Furthermore, great article! Got me really thinking about it all.

Black abstainer May 10, 2012 at 11:01 am

Try cold showering on day 7 to see if that knocks it up even further.

Mattias May 10, 2012 at 11:23 am

I was just wondering. What is the objective for most periodical abstainers here? I know that the title of the article implies that the goal is to attract women. That I view as a welcome side-effect, whereas being able to get it up more or less effortlessly is the main goal. Women are attracted to me like flies to sugar 3-4 days after shooting it, but that doesn’t help my ED (that I would label as PED).

In my twenties I had a sexdrive that sometimes compelled me to shoot many times a day, but often as a stress relief. Now that I’m more sure of myself (or numb emotionally) I am very relaxed, having sudden surges of libido, but far apart. I lift weights up to 5 days a week, at 35 I have the physique of a 25-year-old, eat nutritious food. What restricts me from hitting on girls is my previous failures in bed, both the ED and from the confusion about what counts as normal sex, which leaves me inoperational physically.

Black abstainer May 10, 2012 at 6:56 pm

@mattias whatever feels right for your penis.

Ed May 11, 2012 at 8:30 am

Can very much relate to Mattias, if you are worried about ED, I would suggest focusing on the 16 errogeneous zones of a women and getting her off that way. If you can at least pleasure her, it is a start. The extra oomph I have got in the gym from doing this has been great I am coming up for 42 in a few months and am getting stronger at the gym, leg pressed around 265 kg tonight and am natural, most of my lifts are increasing plus I don’t train with a spotter.

Black abstainer May 11, 2012 at 8:58 pm

@Ed any emotional or mental changes?

Ed May 12, 2012 at 12:30 am

Yeah for sure, at the moment I am a little tired, that probably has more to do with the fact I workout at night which has not been ideal for my sleeping patterns. The women I do engage seem more into me and I don’t mind expressing how I feel if I find a women appealing.

Rave May 12, 2012 at 1:10 pm

I’ve never made it past day 8, but has anyone one found it extremely hard to concentrate around day 5-8 due to the fact that your mind is constantly thinking about sex? My built up frustration causes me to lose focus on aspects of my life that need to be maintained such as chores etc.

cool May 12, 2012 at 1:45 pm

@Rave

I can just tell you that this stuff is more likely to happen if you edge or look at porn without doing anything. If you don’t do either of those, just sit through it.

Alpha>beta May 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm

Heres how i think about it if you get horny just think about how bad you feel after you pmo and think of how good youll feel after the horniness passes

Black abstainer May 13, 2012 at 2:50 am

@Alpha>beta That’s what I do. I simply close my eyes and have an imaginary fap session and after I have an imaginary ejaculation i feel guilty….

Day 14

Ed May 13, 2012 at 3:14 am

I kind of nearly lapsed with the edging the other day. Not enough to break the cycle.

ganesh May 16, 2012 at 7:16 am

i feel more tired when i am doing twise a day , that so i searched here , from this i will follow 7 day cycle…

Meme May 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm

On the 22 of May I’ll will have 60 days of no fapping. It isnt that hard, but I think im ready to start a 7 day cycle after that. Its normal to release once in a while.
Now that i have been through this, i dont know from where all the “deep voice” and “extreme”confidence comes from. Because it doesnt. It’s all in your mind. Ive experienced these 1-2 days after I read this forum..and they never returned again :)

Priv May 16, 2012 at 3:57 pm

@Meme

Wow that is a long time..so what have been the benefits of this since you have started? What have you noticed?
Thanks!

Black abstainer May 16, 2012 at 9:16 pm

day 17 for me, I’ve got a lustful glare from a girl today. I got my ass kicked by a couple girls too.

Rave May 17, 2012 at 7:06 pm

@Black abstainer

What benefits have you noticed after bypassing 2 weeks? I’ve never made it that far.

Meme May 18, 2012 at 1:49 pm

@ Priv

Benefits after 60 days ?Hmm.. I can say that I do have some more confidence in me as my dopamine receptors are returning to normal. Some of my shyness has gone away and I’m slowly becoming indifferent to a lot of things. However as told before, there is no deep voice or any other exaggerated things. Girls won’t notice you more, you will start noticing them looking at you.
And yes I get pretty horny if I stare to much at a woman, you need to keep you mind and eyes somewhere else.
God I miss a hot piece of ass…..

Ed May 19, 2012 at 6:01 am

I know this works, I am at a stage where I wish I was out sarging consistantly. Sometimes the intensity of horniness really builds up. I get a service every few weeks and kind of did something I wish I hadn’t, no real harm done I guess, all it means is that I should be out sarging, escorts aren’t really the real deal, only a short term fix.

Black abstainer May 19, 2012 at 10:01 pm

***** relapsed on day 20.

martin May 20, 2012 at 8:17 am

This is something i have been very interested in for a 2 -3 years now, im now 24 and have been cuttin down on jerkin off from one a day to less and less, the last 11 weeks i have achieved 1 wank per week “7 day cycle tuesdays my fun day haha” and i think there is definatly something in it, seem to become more self aware, and in situations at work in a bar/club, noticing things more clearer like social dynamics, and where and why i and others fit into the social dynamics, becomes clearer which guys r just aplha and the girls want and I have become more aware and motivated to improve my status. As for energy increases and big gains at gym, not really noticed to much tbh in the strength gain department, however on the 5th to 7th day of absinece feel more energetic and feel the build up of not realeasing. tuesdays coming up once more and im gonna try lasting out till the tuesday after so it will be 14 days, just to see if i get greater noticable changes. reason 4 doing 7 is think its ust healthy to clean ure pipes and keep sexually active/ obviuosly that would be preferbly with sex, which despite an increase in going out last 5 weeks or so, havent had extra encounters or distinct greater interest in girls. this however i hope could be due to the fact i still have 1-4 reasonbly excesive porn days, 1-3 hours viewing sexually related material online, this in itself withought jerking off does great damage i dont feel like being social right afterwards, and feel bad for watching it. So porn is now my main target to complety avoid as i believe this has effected my alpha being and social proserping. In conclusion jerk off once a week only you will get benifits (possibly goin withought even longer or completly no fap could achieve greater results) personally il be discovering the result of this over next 10 days or so, but also you must ditch the porn id say complety for ultimate social success and should help be more naturally attractive to females. Seperate note female masturbation my view, the hottest girls very often masturbate daily to multiple times a day, but also youl find hot girl who never does it, ie, if a female was to abstain from masturbation i doubt she would get any particular gains, maybe im wrong…..

Don May 20, 2012 at 10:40 am

I have lived 40 some even years. And I can tell you many things that relate to all that you all have kindly shared. I love the internet and not Television or movies. Propaganda is evil. And TV and Radio practices this all the time. Just like the movie “Something about mary”. A BIG LIE. Truth is prevailing with the WWW. People can now hear truth if you filter it correctly and find facts to back it. I was in the Army. In the Army, I ws so deprived of sex due to being out in the “field” or “deployed” that I learned that refraining from masturbation was an aid to a man/soldier. You are stronger physically and mentally. You are faster, more ambitious about life and it’s challenges to the point, at least for me, I felt nothing was impossible. Then I got out honorably. Life starting going down hill. Porn and masturbation and being alone was a VIRUS. But once I started to have serious sexual relationships (women) in my life. It didn’t really matter if I ejaculated as long as it was “real” sex not masturbation. Something occurs when you have the “right” partner” and something bad occurs when you have a “negative, bad” partner. I had one woman, who wanted sex more than me. And she was a negative evil woman. Who drained my balls dry as much as she could to make me lazy, fat, and have no drive for life. You have to be careful my brothers in choosing a mate. Then I went to an episode of solitude, internet porn as much as I desired. I masturbated 4-7 times a day. I couldn’t sleep. I had no ambition. I avoided women, I avoided exercise, etc, etc.
Then I learned about abstinence from a friend from South Africa. He told everyone without shame, that he didn’t masturbate and I found it interesting as he “chuckled” at those who made fun of him, I did not. Now, I know years later after that moment, that refraining from masturbation for 7 days. (A wonderful number for many things in life). That women are attracted to me, come to me, they rub their breast or tail on me at the clubs as I just stand and watch the dance floor. Wives want me, yes wives. I am against adultery. But it happens and I treat married women like a virus. And I got more active, started to feel better, look better in the face, in my eyes (a sparkle than wasn’t there before), and I got more creative. There are so many benefits from refraining and having self control. My recommendation. Do it for yourself. Don’t believe my words, try it. One step at a time. 3 days, 6 days, 7 days, 9 days, until you hear your body telling you that this number of days is right for me and my life. If you lack “balls” to speak with beautiful attractive women. STOP MASTURBATING EVERYDAY!. And as one other poster mentioned. There is a con. Other males will get aggressive with you and compete like animals in a jungle killing for the hunt of pussy. I like the 7 day cycle. It is perfect. All of this is in the Bible and Jesus himself spoke about it. I am not pushing religion. But wise men know. Ghandi, Ali, Jesus, Budda, etc, etc. Good luck.

Mattias May 20, 2012 at 10:44 am

@Meme
My deeper, fuller voice is largely due to my penile exercises I think, making the balls bigger and such. Massage for more bloodflow. I masturbated excessively in my teens and I suspect that this halted the build-up of semen down there, because I emptied too often, making my testicles smaller than they would’ve been otherwise. I have much less energy at the gym on days 1-3 after ejaculation, on 4th day I’m back in business…

@ Black abstainer
You said “whatever feels right for your penis.” That’s easy for you to say. Blacks generally are not frequent masturbators, am I right? Well, I have masturbated to perverted porn for years and years, so a naked girl is not enough to make IT stiff anymore. Desensitized. That’s what i’m trying to remedy. :)

PS. I do get more attention from girls when I have abstained for 3+ days. It’s very apparent.

Brahman May 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm

@ Black Abstainer how did you feel throughout your 20 day ordeal

cool May 20, 2012 at 3:01 pm

did 3weeks+ and then simply busted one, I must say this increases your awareness, not people around you, you do, however learn something from this (and know it even after busting one). I am going to continue abstaining.

Also it IS a proven fact that abstaining increases your testosterone levels, but we are talking about 30day as a minimum abstaining, all this 7day cycle is a joke.

I have discovered pretty much everything by myself, but thanks to this comment section I know how other people approach it. It might be different for different people, or they might just not realise it. All in all, good luck to you guys, I won’t be following this ‘forum’ anymore. Lesson learned.

Brahman May 21, 2012 at 2:22 pm

@Cool
I personally agree with the fact that Abstianing long without a release within 3 or 4 week period does increase your awareness significantly. I personally found when I’m at home or at work I can handle a multitude of tasks much more efficiently.

Memory
I found when I was in my teens I had a poor memory, and by self pleasuring my 3 or 4 times a day it had made it worse, and now I can see why I was at the back of the class and slow in catching on in life it’s self , and dreary and lazy and low in spirit

Health
Now a man in my mid 40s I’m alway suffering with a low immune system and even from the time I started self pleasuring myself at the age of 13 due pair pressure, and when I left school back in the 80s with no job I was always at home not wanting socialise with anyone And of corse self plearuring myself 5 to 6 times a day and totally unaware of what was happening to me, at one time I busted 20 time in one night. Today I’m not so bad now, compared to how I used to be back in my teens and think it was the worst thing that could happen to me in my life. I feel like half of my life has squandered on self pleasuring as a teen starting puberty, when I could of been making a success of myself.

Further more I’d like thank everyone who has contributed their thouhts, and sharing their and comments on this site and I hope this site can be beneficial to those who are seeking help

Ed May 21, 2012 at 6:19 pm

I am finding this forum a trendendous source of strength. The cooler weather tends to make me much hornier, and have been edging on the brink so to speak. Technically I haven’t lapsed but hearing the comments from other guys on this forum is a real source of strength. I am getting back to the gym this week after a week’s break so that should help a bit.

jeremy May 22, 2012 at 11:49 am

I have a question about the 1 week cycle
So if I start on Monday then 1 week abstinence ends on Monday also right? So the next day Tuesday I can Masturbate? And then the next day Wednesday, start again the 1 week abstinence?

jeremy May 22, 2012 at 11:55 am

Oh, from the previous post(wrong calculation) the 1 week abstinence ends in Sunday if I start on Monday.
So, the next day Monday can I masturbate and then the next Tuesday start all over the 1 week abstinence? Is this what the 1 week cycle means??

Clinton May 22, 2012 at 12:31 pm

Don’t make it to technical Jeremy. It’s not an exact science yet. Try not to be a slave to your body. You decide when and if you do it, not your body. If you feel like going fog more than a week then do it.
The longest I did was 3 weeks and I didn’t feel that great. But another time I went 2 weeks and I felt incredible.

Lee May 22, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Found your blog after looking for something on the effects of masturbation on motivation, I agree with most of the comments on here.
I too like a couple of posters have found usually after the third day of abstinence my confidence goes up and girls are more attracted to me without even trying, I have found it very difficult with the internet and porn being so accessible, its an easy route but not a real experience.
I am reading a book called rewire the brain, he says you have to get in a routine of changing the way you are and keep this going, its very easy for weeks, months or years to go by.
I have written a list from the comments on your blog of the positive and negatives, one thing a few people may have like me is high testosterone, I can get over aggressive after abstinence so this is something I have to work on and be constantly aware of, not fighting just generally over confident.

Thanks to all who have posted, its nice to know your not alone.

phuc head May 23, 2012 at 2:35 pm

I’m 37 and I masturbated from ages 16 to 30. I’m convinced excessive masturbation made me dumb, weak, cowardly and unattractive. I never achieved anything at school, work, business, athletics, relationships, or anything else. I’d spend my time playing videogames, reading comics, looking at useless websites, or masturbating to japanese porn. I never had any real friends or a girlfriend. When I was 22, I paid a prostitute for sex because I was still a virgin. I was bullied out of two lame jobs (damaging my already fragile mental heath) and was shamelessly exploited for years after that when I worked as a freelance data entry clerk. I was bullied and terrorized on the streets every day by asshole strangers. People (including my parents and long-time acquaintances) loved to humiliate me in public and I could do nothing about it while onlookers sneered with pleasure and sometimes even added some abuse. Desperate to change my pathetic life, I vowed at age 30 that I would be celibate until I died. It wasn’t that hard to quit, I just had to think about the nightmare life I was trying to escape. I’ve never masturbated since. I joined a gym and improved my body, I gained 20 pounds of muscle and am able to squat 225 lbs and deadlift 315 lbs (after seven years you’d expect me to lift more, but a lower back injury keeps recurring a few times a year and I have to restart from square one each time). I don’t get bullied that much anymore. When people do antagonize me, they don’t crush me with a frontal hostile attack like they used to. They now do it cautiously, for example cursing me with a friendly expression on their face or when they are a safe distance away from me. They also curse while pretending to talk about someone else. It’s actually funny how cowardice changes their behavior. I guess people will always hate me but I don’t care any more. I now enjoy confrontations and releasing the rage and hate inside. I’ve had sex a few times in the past year but I always feel horrible afterwards, as if my core energy was scooped out of my lower belly. My lifts in the gym suffer for about two weeks and I avoid confrontation again, lol. I’ve quit masturbating, and I will never have sex again until I die. I’ve read that if a man is celibate for 12 years he gains spiritual powers. I’m a good-for-nothing person anyway, I might as well see if that claim is true.

Alpha>beta May 23, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Arent there herbs you can take to replenish that energy but at least you finally found out what was causing you all thos trouble . Now that i stopped i notice others who are trapped in that evil cycle and i feel really bad for them the future young generation is fucked but at least i know one thing when i have children they will know my secret to succese and use it to succed to the fullest

phuc head May 24, 2012 at 2:53 am

@ Alpha>beta
I think there are some herbs that recharge male energy. I tried eurycoma longifolia for a few months after I stopped sex and masturbation. The authentic stuff was expensive but I think it increased my energy and helped me in the gym. I plan to take it again when I can afford it. I fully agree that the young generation is very endangered with the cornucopia of porn available online. Porn was extremely difficult to get in my teen years, although I did try to get it. I wish someone had strongly told me in my childhood about the dangers of masturbation and loss of male energy. I think knowing that one fact is more important than any other book learning or education, because once a person masters his sexual urges he is strong, capable, and driven enough to seek education and improvement on his own.

Lee May 24, 2012 at 6:05 am

@>phuc head
For me its all about balance, people have theorized we as creatures need healthy interaction and touch from loved ones. If you are happy with your life that’s great, I don’t feel like I have the right to give you advise so i hope this comes out friendly and sincerely. I believe if you look hard enough there is someone out there for everyone, I hope you have good friends and a loved one, if not its never to late to re-evaluate your life the way you are with other people and do something about it. People aren’t perfect, I my self see the world as very black and white, there’s right and wrong, sometimes you have to take a joke as a joke even if there’s an undertone, its not worth getting upset over everything. I don’t know you, it just sounds like you have had a hard time though.
Lee.

Alpha>beta May 24, 2012 at 6:51 am

Have you tried kegels to stregthin pc muscles iv read that doing this brings blood flow to alot of organs close by getting rid of stagnation down there and one youve masterd the kegels you can have dry orgasms. Dry orgasms is where you orgasm but dont blow your load keeping energy in you do this by squezzing your pc muscles right befor the point of no return and you will eventually learn how to seperate the orgasm from the ejaculation which are to seperate things but you need a real strong pc muscle so work that muscle every other day 4 20 min sets a week every other day

Ed May 24, 2012 at 8:33 am

I am in the process of rebooting, if I can get to Day 3 I should be able to get back on track. I also take test boosters and can honestly say I feel as horny as a 16 year old. Even though I lapsed a few days ago, I still feel the benefits from doing this. I have been certainly more social with women and am much more motivated to approach.

phuc head May 25, 2012 at 12:46 pm

@ Lee
Thank you for your honest opinion, I think it’s completely valid. Looking back at my first post, I sounded like a fanatical freak, lol. I agree that interaction and having loved ones is important; that’s always been a blind spot in my life. I honestly don’t know how to act among decent, civilized people. Also, I wouldn’t have much to offer to such people because I haven’t accomplished anything or made anything out of myself. But I will find a way to interact constructively with people somehow, maybe by joining groups, volunteering, or taking courses. I’m sure getting among people will help my social skills and improve my attitude, and help me react to situations in a more human and compassionate way. Thank you for awakening me to that.

phuc head May 25, 2012 at 1:04 pm

@Alpha>beta
It’s interesting that you mention kegels. I’ve been doing kegel exercises together with stomach vacuums for a few months, but only about 10-15 repetitions a day. I squeeze my pelvic floor while trying to bring my navel back to my spine. (side note: stomach vacuums have reduced my waist measurement from 37 to 31 inches). Despite the kegel exercises, it is very hard for me to not ejaculate during intercourse with a girl. The sensation and excitement is so intense that I orgasm in 1 or 2 minutes. :( I will try the workout you suggested; It seems like a lot, but I could do it anywhere without anyone noticing, and also the results would be worth it.

Tokyo May 26, 2012 at 10:45 am

you guys are inspirational! I remember I could go on without masturbation for a long time (didn’t really count the days), only once in a while though, but usually I fap everyday. so I was wondering what it really does to my body when I abstain from fapping, then I found this page.

anyways, I’m on my 3rd day, of course nothing to brag about, but here are my observations:

day 1) nothing special, it’s like I just forgot to fap, but no big deal.

day2) I had to make a little more effort not to think about it. I didn’t go out much.

day3) I noticed my mind is a bit clearer today, less sleepy, perhaps more focused, but nothing earth shattering.

obviously have a long way to go, but I’d like to get to a point where ladies start noticing me more. hahaha.

@phuc head
when I was young, I had a similar early ejaculation problem, but as I got older I can last way way way longer in bed, my EX was like, “are you done yet?” LOL and it depends on when you have sex as well. sometimes I can’t even get it up, other times I’m an energizer bunny. with experience, I’m sure it’ll get better. so what I’m trying to say is, don’t worry too much about it and enjoy it! if you ejaculate too early, just make sure you pleasure the girl with your tongue, hand, fingers etc.

phuc head May 27, 2012 at 12:38 pm

@ Tokyo
Yes, I think my lack of experience of sex with girls is worsening my early ejaculation. The sensitivity from not masturbating also seems to be adding to it. I don’t really view EE as a problem though, and I see any sex I manage to get as a fortunate event!
Best wishes for your abstinence program!

Tokyo May 28, 2012 at 6:27 am

@phuc head
That’s the spirit, man! And I also want to add that when you do manage to get a steady GF, things will change. Sex with a stranger is all too exciting and it may cause EE, but with a steady GF, sex will last longer gradually, and I can only speak from own experience, but it is true, and it takes you to a whole new level of sexual plateau.

Anyhow, a quick update to my journey. It’s getting harder to just ignore hot chicks on the street or on the Internet. Mentally I’m trying to distract myself from an sexual desire, and it’s kind of working. However, I can feel this exessive energy in the genital area, almost as if it’s getting heavier. But for some reason, I don’t get a random boner though. And I haven’t noticed any sleeping problem. My skin feels a bit better, I usually suffer from eczema, but definitely I can tell that it’s getting better. And I’m more alert for sure. Finally I got to learn new stuff I had been putting off just because I was too lazy. All these changes are gradual, but I can feel it! If this is really because of the abstinence from masturbation, then it’s all worth it for me! I’m still going strong! I’m hoping to get to the 7th day where supposedly the testosterone level reaches the highest point and see how it feels.

Ed May 28, 2012 at 6:14 pm

Have also found that when doing heavy compound movements in the gym like Deadlifts, Squats or Bench Press for example, it is particularly useful if you are feeling horny as it is a great release.

Trying to be a Brahman May 31, 2012 at 1:21 am

@Kambe
I personally agree on all of your posts, that masterbation is linked to, to many health problems. Over the past 4 years I’ve been practicing Abstianinence for long periods at a time and I notice it has been increasing my awareness and concerntration significantly. I personally found I can handle a multitude of tasks much more efficiently and easy.

Memory
I found when I was in my teens I suffered with concertration problems, speach stuttering, and if there was anything I wanted to say I could never get my sentences out in the right order. I had a poor memory, and by self pleasuring myself 3 or 4 times a day it got worse, and now I can see why I was at the back of the class with learning disabilities , and slow in catching on in life it’s self , it made me tiered, dumb, stupid, dreary, and lazy, a laughing stock, and low in spirited.

And another thing I looked into was, it is true that girls do better in school than boy because they don’t go to great length in pleasuring themselves in masterbation.

Health
Now a man in my mid 40s I’m alway suffering with a low weak immune system and even from the time I started self pleasuring myself at the age of 13 due pair pressure, I left school back in the 80s with no education, no job I was always at home not wanting socialise with anyone And of corse self plearuring myself 5 to 6 times a day always left me dumb, dull headed, stupid, tiered, lazy, and leaving me totally unaware of what was happening to me, at one time I busted 20 time in one night. Today I’m not so bad now, compared to how I used to be back in my teens and i think it was the worst thing that could happen to me in my life. I feel like half of my life has squandered on self pleasuring as a teen starting puberty, when I could of been making a success of myself.

Further more I’d like thank everyone who has contributed their posts, and sharing their comments on this site and I hope this site can be beneficial to those who are seeking help

comeback May 31, 2012 at 6:33 am

For everyone – how many of you guys have hairloss problems ?I strongly suspect excessive masturbation is also linked to hairloss.

Trying to be a Brahman May 31, 2012 at 7:35 am

Yes most definitely, I’ve noticed the two top side corners of my forehead were very thin some time back, and my barber has noticed some of my hair is begining to growing back. I’ve been using Zinc supplement for sometime now, because Zinc is something you literally waste through masterbation.

Tokyo May 31, 2012 at 11:14 am

one thing I noticed after 1 week of abstinence was the improved eyesight! I need glasses with very strong prescription, but I’ve been able to see things more clearly.

I gave in after 1 week though. so back to square one for me. :p

definitely saw the benefits of abstinence!

Trying to be a Brahman May 31, 2012 at 3:42 pm

@Tokyo
Glad to know your on the mend, and it doesn’t matter how many time a man may fall, but as long as you still have that burning desire, that inner strength will power to percist in going that’s all that counts. But what I’ve found out, if you abstain for as long as you can for about 100 days or more from sex and masterbation, all better, as you may know in Qigong you have to practice Sexual Abstinance in order to have and store energy and train efficiently To protect yourself from injury.

Tokyo May 31, 2012 at 11:36 pm

@Trying to be a Brahman
My next goal is 10 day, maybe more. I’ll increase the duration of my abstinence gradually. But I won’t abstain from sex! Whenever there’s an opportunity, I will rise to the occasion.

Ed June 4, 2012 at 2:16 am

I am around the two week mark give or take a day or two. This forum is the source of strength I need. May have a fb lined up in a week’s time. The sight of women in stockings and tights in this weather is more of a distraction to me than when it is summer where the women wear even less. I have Deadlifts to train tonight and a few things for uni to finish off, so that should keep my mind focused.

collegekid June 4, 2012 at 9:44 am

Thanks for the TED video I am about a week in as well and was thinking about jumping ship tonight. The TED video has changed my mind staying on board at least for now. Thanks dude!

Ed June 6, 2012 at 2:20 am

Chanelling my manjuice is one way to help give me that extra boost for the gym. Keep the posts coming, we must all be a strength to one another when it gets tough.

Trying to be a Brahman June 6, 2012 at 7:07 am

@Ed
Hi Ed, it’s good to see guys like yourself catching on, and understanding how to rechannel or divert this energy back up inside their bodies, and instead of that Ed, they allow this energy to fall into the genital area through being turned on by the sight of a Hot Chick, and they allow this energy to circulate around the genitals for long periods of a time causing them to be fustrated, and not realising that this precious energy, which could be used for creativity, mental work such as studies, or physycal work, or workouts in the gyms like your doing, is looking for somewhere to escape either through sex, or from jerking off.

Ed June 8, 2012 at 12:22 am

I am holding on, if I can hold out this weekend I will be doing well. Last night I was so horny I couldn’t get to sleep.

Tokyo June 8, 2012 at 2:20 pm

@Ed, what helps me is, playing games on iPad (or whatever you have) in bed until I’m too tired, then I fall asleep. it’s fun, takes my mind off naked girls or touching myself, and when it’s late enough, I can fall asleep.

Black abstainer June 8, 2012 at 6:45 pm

hey guys, I’m back I am currently on day 13 (i relapsed). And I’m going to no fap until july.

James Gray June 9, 2012 at 2:25 am

I’m done with day three it was cool I’m aiming for two weeks

Calming Effect June 9, 2012 at 12:39 pm

Hi all,
thanks to the poster and all contributions. I just want to also share my experiences. I have been consiously trying to cut back porn and masturbation from last year around August.
The longest I went was 22 days. Experiencing is believing.
So today I’m on day 2….noticing energy starting to increase

mr.crash June 9, 2012 at 3:01 pm

this is my 6′th time starting over. by now i’ve realized that
my body can take care of the situation. during the two last attempts i’ve encounterd wet dreams on the 10th day both times and as a result i ejaculated in my sleep hehe…. ” this however does not seem to ruin my energy nor does it reset me to day one. ”

this is my 12th day and it has been two days since my wet dream. i try to look back on earlier attempts and compare the energy i’m feeling at the moment, with the ones i had in earlier experiences on the 12th day.

i must say that even tho i had a wet dream and ejaculated in my sleep, it have not changed my level of energy.

” it seems that i shall just let nature just takes it’s course when i’m asleep and that way i won’t have to deal with the masturbation issue and the reset effect on my mood or energy level nomore! ”

” come on people!! SHARE YOUR STORIES!! “

Tokyo June 9, 2012 at 8:37 pm

@mr.crash,

It’s very reassuring to know that wet dreams didn’t affect the energy level, and you had wet dreams on the 10th day because I am on the 10th day today!!!! I guess I have something to look forward to!

I have to admit, I peeked at porn briefly, and other times I was reading some erotic stories (not sure how I got there) but I didn’t fap. I could control myself, which made me surprised.

Ed June 9, 2012 at 8:58 pm

Yeah I have briefly looked at porn, femdom stuff and some erotic stories. The most I have done is edge. I am continuing to stay strong. When I do actually engage women they listen. I almost think the extra test at times has something of an attracting force to it.

born again virgin June 11, 2012 at 11:07 am

the hardest part for me is standing out so much when I go out. Being smiled at like Im 9 years old or being called names when I go out of my way to ignore them isnt a good feeling. They only want the attention they cant find from their boyfriends or husbands. These women may not watch as much porn but they got vibrators. Everyone around me is depleted. Blue pills sell better than crack around here. The worst are the ones that are married or have girlfriends. It aint my fault you did that to yourself. I owe you nothing
This aint about “hooking up” or getting some puzzy from a bimbo I’ll be tired of in a week. The old & wise that know behave in the manner youd want your children to behave.

Mattias June 11, 2012 at 12:31 pm

@ born again virgin
I hate those women who stray from husbands and boyfriends. I guess somehow they can justify it but it goes against my conscience to bed taken women. I know how I’d feel about it if a woman did that to me.
It’s both a blessing and a curse that girls are so easy. I mean, who can you trust then? I only want one girl, never been into one-night-stands as I find myself lying there with them thinking “who the hell is this person?”. I need a connection that lasts.

Anyway. Been abstaining for 8 days and the good vibes are wearing off, or whatever. Kind of tired. I’ll slip tonight to refill.

Friend or foe June 11, 2012 at 6:24 pm

So I abstained for about 10 days this time around. Saturday night I took home a girl I’d seen a couple of times. We slept together but she wouldn’t let me take her panties off (we were only wearing underwear at this point) and I was so horny that I kept at it, but she wouldn’t budge. I was doing everything right, horny as fuck, and she got so fucking wet! I couldn’t stop thinking about screwing her guts out. We ended up dry fucking, and a lo and behold she had a massive orgasm. My cock was rock hard the whole time. I better fuck her clean next time or she’s gonna have to find herself another rub buddy. I now find myself hornier than I have ever been, and a bit frustrated I couldn’t penetrate her, but I haven’t whacked the monkey, I’m being strong!
I shoot for two week abstinence, but I’m OK if I fap after a week, and when I do, I don’t feel drained as I did when I was a chronic masturbator. Two weeks works wonders for me

James Gray June 11, 2012 at 8:28 pm

Man you guys I made it to day five and felt great seriously but I was with this chick later that night and lets just say I’m back on day one Was up to everyone on day ten plz tell me how you feel

Tokyo June 11, 2012 at 9:44 pm

@James,
I think Matt Savage’s 7 day theory seems to make sense to me at least, after abstaining for 7 days and 12 days.

I felt like, after the 7th day, the magic was gone, I mean the energy level was at the highest point around 6th – 7th, but after that, it kind of declined a little. if I wanted to keep going, I could have, but I had a little too much coffee little too late on the 12th day, and I couldn’t sleep, so I fapped.

I think it makes more sense to repeat the 7 day regiment than trying to go for a month or more.

around 3rd and 4th day, I was horniest, so I guess most eager to talk to girls as well..

James Gray June 11, 2012 at 11:47 pm

@Tokyo I’m a look more into Matt Savage’s 7 day theory and thanks for letting me know about your experience

david June 13, 2012 at 10:51 pm

I second your theory. I have gone maybe a little over a week and I feel more confident than I ever did around women/ the nights are rough, especially when I’m using the internet, but I think it is completely worth it; for me anyways, to abstain. Now, I just need to get laid by some hottie. ERRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH so horny right now!!! Anyone else here other then me start barking when they see a hot chick. I’ve never done this before until I started abstaining from masturbating.

Ed June 14, 2012 at 2:41 am

I second that David. A raging, you know what. I am just hanging in there. I am doing Chest tonight so, I think if I have a full tank that should help with that.

Trying to be a Brahman June 14, 2012 at 7:41 am

@Ed and David
Hay guys don’t give in, please try and hang on in there, and don’t forget, you must learn the art of rechannelling, and divert this energy back up inside your own bodies. Dave and Ed, don’t allow this energy to fall back into the genital area through being turned on by the site of these Hot Chicks, that’s if you want to last it out,, and the last thing you don’t want to do, is allow this energy to circulate around the genital area for to long causing you guys fustration, and not realising that this precious energy, which could be usefull for creative mind or for helping you to solve problems when they arise, mental work such as studies, or physycal workouts in the gyms like your doing, and don’t forget that this precious energy is only looking for somewhere to escape either through sex, or from jerking off.
Good luck guys in hanging on, but believe you me you will see these results. Just think of some haggid old woman hunch over her walking stick LOL.

Ed June 14, 2012 at 11:12 pm

Thanks, I have vowed that if I do get off it will only be from a women, which is what I am really tempted to do tonight, an escort I have seen a few times.

david June 14, 2012 at 11:52 pm

Thanks for the words of encouragement bro: trust me I can see the results already. My muscle appears more defined, I find myself joking around with the ladies and making them laugh, overall I’m more sociable and a likable person. I am able use this additional energy I have to workout more effectively. Good luck to the rest of you guys!

Trying to be a Brahman June 15, 2012 at 1:12 am

@Dave and Ed
Hay guys I think our worst times is when the mind isn’t engaged into doing anything, or laying down in bed unfocused, especially when the mind is at idle mode. Last night My mind went into idle mode, and the thought came to me last night to edge, and this is the time I dread most getting ready for bed, so what I did is went down stairs into my lounge and put my two sofas together and slept downstairs, It was a little uncomfortable but I’d rather sacrifice my sleep In order to maintain or keep my MAN JUICE. Good luck boys on this up hill battle which I dread losing in having to restart all over again.

mr.crash June 15, 2012 at 3:25 am

today is the 18th day! i am horny as a mother fucker! i am so horny now that every breath i takes feels like ecstazy! i feel like rolling the eyes to the back of my skull and just yanking my fucking snapper til i cum all over the place!!!!

but no… i will stay strong! even tho it is getting harder and harder by the dady! >D…

stay strong lads!! ” preserve your juices for ladies!! “

comeback June 15, 2012 at 5:31 am

I have been trying to quit this habit for long and its the first time am doing so well.

I had a 10 days streak from June 1 to June 11. Once I got the momentum it was really easy. I relapsed twice on June 11-12 and now I am back on track again.

I use the same trick that helped me quit smoking. Basically everytime I am tempted to relapse, I tell myself that this habit is addictive and cold turkey is the only way to go about it. If I do it once, it wont stop at 1 but will result in addiction again. The negative psychology seems to be working despite the 2 relapses.

Ed June 15, 2012 at 9:22 am

Gone close to 3 weeks I think. Maybe tommorrow night I will find an escort. My muscles are the best they have been in years, I feel and get comments about how jacked I look. Had a bit of a low key workout tonight by my standards. Yeah I am having the same spontaniety with women. I gave two girls a compliment today which really made their day. I kind of am working up this genuine desire for women, something fapping or spanking it takes away from you. My only real worry is PE, and getting too worked up, when doing the deed. Keep strong brothers.

Trying to be a Brahman June 15, 2012 at 11:02 am

@Ed
That’s good, at least you’ve tried. It doesn’t matter how many times you fall, what really counts is that will power to get back up and become more stronger. Don’t forget, climbing Mount Everst wasn’t conquered in a day, as you know it’s all about will power, carefull planning, stay strong Ed.

david June 16, 2012 at 2:43 am

@comeback and Ed, you guys are both inspirational to us guys. comeback I’m a former smoker myself and I quit cold turkey, and I never knew that you can apply the same psychology to masturbation, thanks for the advice. I will try to reinforce myself next time I get the urge to masturbate.

Ed, I’m so proud of you bro, I myself am also getting compliments on how muscularly define I look lol, and man the confidence level I have with the ladies are no where near as what they were when I would beat my meat like there was no tomorrow.

All in all I feel the best I have ever felt mentally and physically. I feel more witty than ever and find myself being more proactive in the more important things in life. Best of luck to you guys and I hope to hear new updates soon!

Ed June 16, 2012 at 5:09 am

Thanks David, this is a tough weekend it is cold, cold for Aussie. I was unable to find a suitable escort. So tonight I am going to hit the gym. Still have an online test to do for uni, so I will put my energy into that. Funny thing with escorts, while I use them when I have to, it is almost like something is telling me to hold on. Good things come to those who wait I suppose.

Mattias June 16, 2012 at 10:37 am

I’m glad to hear that muscular strength and self-confidence are strong 2 or more weeks into abstinence. I thought I could give in to the hand every 7th day or so, but I lost some of the sex appeal for 3 days it seems. On the 4th and 5th day girls looked at me a lot.

It’s been another 7 days now and I’m not sociable at all. Just bored with life, and my co-workers suddenly turned cold towards me today. For the first time in my life I’m going for 14 days. The warehouse job is wearing on me so that brings my mood down — that, and it’s really hard choosing a girl to work on. Anyway….7 days to go.

Tokyo June 16, 2012 at 10:56 am

@Mattias,
abstinence alone won’t make you a chick magnet though. when you do make some effort to make yourself extra attractive (trimming facial hair, working out, dress well, etc.), I think that’s when the girls actually notice because you’d be spewing all the extra testosterone!

I didn’t become a lot more sociable through abstinence, but I tend to hesitate less before talking to girls casually during the abstinence.

I think your work situation is simply keeping you depressed a little. it’s never too late to look for another job.

chin up, bro!

Meme June 16, 2012 at 1:54 pm

I’ll soon be FAP free for 90 days ! Congrats to me for lasting this long :)

david June 16, 2012 at 3:32 pm

@Ed, hang in there bro; there are so many positive effects of not masturbating that I feel it would almost be a waste of your efforts. Then again this is much easier said than done. I know if I had the opportunity to get laid by a gorgeous gal, I wouldn’t hesitate for one second.

Matt June 16, 2012 at 4:23 pm

3 weeks ago I was drunk at a bar and got this really cute girls number and we started texting. Id never seen a girl like this before and I knew we had a connection that night. Because of my degree I said I wouldnt have time to meet her for another 2 weeks untill I finished, but we kept texting up untill the final day of those two weeks. She kept hinting at meeting up towards the end but obviously wanted me to ask her out (not vise versa!). The thing is I hadnt been wanking from the day I met her (13 days!!) which I hadnt noticed and havent done in a while! Anway, the last three days of those two weeks were unexplainable! I didnt know what was happening to me. I couldnt focus on work, I couldnt focus on shopping or even normal conversations with mates. I lost focus on everyday things. I’d never felt anything like it in my life. I remember being in the grocery aisle on the final day and just starring at the display, literally just starring in some strange aura. I still dont know whether I was horny or what! but its like I had this amazing energy in me. I could almost feel it in my face when I talked to people.

I also couldnt get this girl out of my f*cking head… there were points on the last day I just wanted to txt her saying ‘get out of my head’!! I mean its insane I didnt even know the girl! I eventually had to text her saying ‘I think im going fucking crazy! This f*king mad! I cant stop thinking about you!’. She immediately replied saying ‘wtf?’ and then I knew I weirded her out, but managed to cover it up (long story). Anyway the next day I had wank just to get her out of my head because I had work to do and I had to forget about her. I didnt text her to ask her out either. She got pissed off and pretty much told me to sod off!

Its as if everything in those two weeks, the sexual tension and mistery and excitiment, just dissipated through a single wank! I just lost all energy to even text her and ask to meet her. Im such an idiot and its only after reading this article I realise what had happened!

I tried it again last week. Didnt have a wank for about 8 days and the results have been insane. I was at our final exhibition (im a student of archticture) last night and literally 4 girls approached me out of the blue!!! Im not kidding! Its like they sensed something different about me. There was strong eye contact and a lot of tension. Obv I had no idea what was going. I was like wtf is happening tonight, why are all these girls stepping into my way and trying to talk to me!?? And now I think I know! I felt it last night, it was more than just confidence and it was incredible!!!! hahaha im laughing right now because this defenetily works and has affected me. My simple advice is dont wank! Stay strong. Youll feel better about yourself and others will sense it!

Ed June 16, 2012 at 8:11 pm

I am still holding up, you also have more of an alpha presence amongst men as well. While this works there is also a rush of nervous energy from time to time. My only concern and this is why I use an escort is getting too excited in the sack too early. Until someone comes up with a solution, to that I might be a bit more confident about regular sarging. I do notise that the longer you go at this the more you are tested and therefore the stronger you get.

Ed June 18, 2012 at 6:46 am

Still hanging in there, fate has told me to hold off and not get an escort. To reward myself I am going to buy a classy new jacket. I was at the gym tonight and chatted briefly with a mate, anyway as I started telling him I wouldn’t mind meeting a women, virtually at that time or soon after in comes a reasonably hot 20 something, soon afterwards I was the only male in the gym and another late teen or early 20s regular I have seen come in the gym. Anyway as the second girl came in I was doing leg raises for abs, and no joke I blew my load while I was training, no one notised, funny thing was one of the girls was waiting outside the gym as I came out. Weird or what.

Trying to be a Brahman June 18, 2012 at 7:11 am

@Ed LMAO
Er Ed, about how much approximately would you say the pressure was, let’s say about 150 Psi

Ed June 18, 2012 at 8:29 am

It was up there with having a nocturnal dream, no joke. I haven’t had that happen to me since I was about 17. I am 42 next month. Also did 140kg Deadlift 5×5 reps, without straps, a new pb. And my bodyweight is probably just under 75 kg, at 5”7.

Mattias June 18, 2012 at 9:00 am

@ Ed. Wow, I’m 82 kg, 5’9 and I can’t do no 140 kg deadlifts at 35! Good job. About the exploding pants… Never happened to me, and I have only had one nocturnal emission in my life.

Anyhow. I’m on day 9. Woke up looking tired (my eyes have that tendency), pretty deep vertical lines in my forehead. Was thinking “damn, I will be in zombie mode all day!”. Not so.
I have never been this strong and energetic at work. I was running around like a 25 yo, no backpains, no fatigue. I walk like a boss! My vanity kind of made me stay away from the girls though, because of my tired looking eyes.

I have at least 4 girls checking me out at work. One big time, she’s very plain looking though. One looks like a sexy little russian fairy. One’s cute but has a balloon head (my head is small). One looks very orderly and stern, glasses, but a beauty. I CAN’T DECIDE!!!

Mattias June 18, 2012 at 9:09 am

For crying out loud, Meme! If you’re saying A you’ll have to say B! Kidding aside, how has your life changed after 90 days? We need success stories.

Trying to be a Brahman June 18, 2012 at 2:45 pm

@Ed
Hay Ed, Your kidding me right, I thought you was in you teens man, I’m serious, I’m not sure if I’ve miss read your previous posts, but you say your 42 next month like myself, I’m in my mid forties, I’m pleased for your post man I, you’ve really inspired me even more to keep going, regardless thoe I relapsed early hours of Sunday morning due to going out with boys Saturday Night clubbing. Ed I must say I had 1 or 2 women coming up to me being real nice, and normally I have this fear, like as if to say their to good for me, I just want to say man this whole Abstinance thing has changed my life for good man. And once again thanks for your inspiring post keep up the good work.

Stephen June 19, 2012 at 3:44 am

I support this endeavour. Nothing beats the feeling of knowing you’re in charge of yourself.

I just wanted to refer to the study (which I read) that was done regarding the seven day cycle of abstaining. It was mentioned in the article at the beginning. Although I commend anyone going for more than a week – the maximum testosterone spike occurs on the 6th or 7th day. Then testosterone drops. And stays down. You have to start the cycle again in order to get that massive testosterone spike.

But if you’re happy with absolute abstinance and the mental benefits it produces that’s great – but if you’re chasing the testosterone you gotta indulge on the 8th day.

Mattias June 19, 2012 at 3:03 pm

@ Stephen.
Let’s take that logic a bit farther. Imagine that you go for two weeks of abstinence. That’s two spikes, and no emissions in between. That could raise the bar for the spikes to come, resulting in higher spikes and more testosterone.
My voice is breaking a little now, on my 10th day, reminding me of what young boys go through at puberty. That never happened to me at puberty, I never got that deep voice and I partially blame my frequent masturbation for that.
Had a sexual chat yesterday, got a superhard erection that lasted, but had almost no desire to beat it.

Tokyo June 19, 2012 at 4:01 pm

@Mattias,
Interesting theory! I’d like to believe it and experience the even bigger spike, but is there any studies supporting this? As far as the article Savage mentioned goes, there is a spike around the 7th day, then it goes back way down. I didn’t see anything mentioning the spike recurring after the first one. Please correct me wrong. It’d give me a very good reason to go beyond the 7th day!

david June 20, 2012 at 2:22 am

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It’s 3:20 in the morning and I can’t sleep because I need to blow my load!!!!!! It’s been over a week, must stay STRONG.

Tokyo June 20, 2012 at 5:06 am

@david,
I’m having a hard time sleeping as well, but let me tell you about last night! I went to a bar with my buddy, it was lame the whole night at the bar, so we decided to go home. right after we left the bar, one of the girls we know at the bar was going home as well. so we ended up walking together to the subway station. then suddenly she kind of gave me a look, and we kept flirting, chatting, touching each other a little bit, for like 30 mins all the way to the subway station! if I weren’t that horny, I wouldn’t have kept the eye contact the way I did, and though I didn’t sleep with her (yet!!) or anything, it was a reminder of what can happen while abstinance! and I’m not one of those good looking guys, eh! it made it well worth the trouble of not fapping!

david June 20, 2012 at 3:20 pm

@Tokyo, thanks bro. I haven’t wanked it yet, but damn it’s getting harder and harder. You will think after two weeks the pressure wouldn’t be as severe.

I agree that not wanking it gives me more confidence and behavior I normally wouldn’t have with the ladies. It gives me more of what Ed describes as the alpha male tendency. While working out at my gym I was teasing a guy twice my size jokingly, had I wanked that week I wouldn’t have had the courage to do anything like that. Also I’m a lot more productive at work. I think I may be getting promoted real soon. All thanks to my hard work of not jacking off. The reward far outweighs the seven second orgasm.

mr.crash June 24, 2012 at 6:12 am

i guess i can bring a story of success to this table. after abstaining for 25 days, i decided to hook up with some girl that i know!

we was having ourselfs a fine time at her place, drinking red whine and having ourselfs a little barbecue.

all night we discuss different topics and i get drunker and drunker, and so does she..

all of a sudden the girl asks me if i’m going to stay and spend the night, and i was like yeah sure i’ll stay!

then as the night proceeds she asks me if i want to sleep next to her in her bed hehe..

i say yeah sure, that would be nice…

so we get to bed and she goes to the batroom to clean up i guess, i, by that time is fucking drunk as hell and all i reallly wants to do is sleep!

so i lay down and close my eyes, she comes in and asks if i’m asleep, i mumbles soon i’ll be sleeping…

she says nOOOOoo you’re not supposed to be sleeing and lays down next to me…

” i guess she wanted me to grab her tight away as she layed down.. however i didn’t! ”

so one minute passes by and she whipsers why are you so boring >P..

so i move closer to her and wraps my arms around her ” still not in the mood or sex, since i was so fucking tierd! ”

so i just thought that i could be holding her all night and she’d be fine with that, but noo! oooh nO!

all of a sudden she says, i’m fucking horny and starts grinding her little tight ass against my package!

all of a sudden i get a feeling in my gut that i haven’t had in a time! ” i guess that this feeling is a feeling that tells me that i’m too fucking horny to be doing this girl! ”

we starts kissing and rolling around in the bed and she grabs my dick and it becomes hard! and i frees her fine ass from her little narrow panties and she pulls of my boxers!

now this girl was soooo fucking tight! we needed to use lube inorder for me to enter!

but as i tried to enter she kept on moaning and complaining about the pain as i was trying to enter, THIS REALLY MADE my heart beat and made me even hornier! ”

” you know that feeling you get when you feel like a real big man hahaha.. ”

so as i finally enterd i was on the verge of exploding due to her tightness… so what happens is that i enters and fucking explodes right up inside of her!!!

i pulls out and we both sort of smiles and starts to laugh about it..

we both had a laugh about it,
and so i told her about my 25 days of abstinence from jerking of and then she totally could undertand that i was a little oversensetive..

usually i would be kind of ashamed to bust my nut so fast, but as i told her she was like totaly cool with it and she totaly understood it and was like. and she said! well you better give me some more real soon hehe..

” i was like sure and passed the fuck out >D ”
i was too fucking drunk and exhausted and could not give her a second round hehe ! ”

the next morning we watched a hororr movie and allmost fucked again… it was a gore movie a movie called GROTESQUE, now if you’ve seen this movie, you’ll understand why nothing happend! we was both watching this sick perverted movie with our mouth open hehe..

but before i left she told me that i owed her a good fuck some other night hahaha.. ”

so i guess my mission was successfull >)…

” i got to bust my nut off in a girl other than my hand and this is what i came to do in the first place >) ”

i must add that before i started doing this no fap then i used to watch porn and jerk off alll the time, and that kind of gave me ED, i no longer suffer from ED when i’m around a girl!

well.. i just wanted to share this with all of you..

tomorrow i start from scratch again…. ” and i’m happy! “

Tiger tony June 24, 2012 at 11:14 am

I am an addicted to masturbation and porn since 15 and now I am 33! I have a regular sex life but even if I am seeing more than one girl at a time I still jerk off! I need to quit!

There have been 3 instances in my life when I quit. Once I lasted 10 days before I had to get laid with any girl (about 21 yo)
Another time I resisted a month until I went out to a party and literally dragged a girl home (about 25 yo)
A month ago for a week till I seduced a stranger.

Not masturbating is great, I feel a lot of energy, focus and I have lots of things to say to girls that I don’t when I jerk off. Its a great motivator.

I think they want you to masturbate these days to emasculate you so you are good little soldier without stamina.

To those that say its ok to jerk off, I say it ok if someone else jerks you off not if you do it. So if prostate cancer is what you are worried about then have it cured by someone else.

This article is great and the comments too.

we should make about this where you can sing up and show your status on how many days you have been abstaining and other users can keep an eye on each others….and so on.

Tiger tony June 24, 2012 at 11:16 am

typo:

we should make a SITE about this where you can sing up and show your status on how many days you have been abstaining and other users can keep an eye on each others….and so on.

James Gray June 24, 2012 at 11:49 am

@TigerTony hey thats a great idea email me jamesgrayatlantic@gmail.com

Meme June 24, 2012 at 1:32 pm

And I’m here..here at 90 DAYS of no masturbating. Who the hell would have thought that I will last this long ?!
I’m really proud of myself…however with this abstinence, i’ve began smoking again. But not too much :) Must have been the stress of exams and work lately.

I don’t watch porn movies anymore. Even if I try to..it’s not the same anymore. I can’t get a really good hard on like i used to.

The really good part of all this abstinence ? Girls really start to notice you. I get more looks from girls at work..and even in public transport. Of course, it’s still up to you if you want to get laid.

Overall the experience is positive.I will begin to use the extra energy soon, in the beginning of July..I wanna go to the gym and also start kickboxing lessons. Perhaps even salsa dance lessons..why not ? The male/female ratio there is like 1/5 so it might be worth it :D

The bottom line guys..you were fapping at least once a day for the past few years..I think it’s worth it to resist for at least 60 days. Then start the 7/8 day cycle. Or the other way around, start the cycle and gradually begin to resist masturbating.

I’m gonna keep going for a while..see how things work out. So im gonna go for the full 120 DAYS !

Good luck and I’ll keep you posted :)

Mattias June 24, 2012 at 1:35 pm

2 weeks, no shooting, jerked one day but stopped early. I notice that I don’t fantasize at all, I just notice some nice legs or a nice butt and move on. It’s strange that I can go through entire days not being horny but I wake up with a stiff boner every morning.
My personality is still kinda boyish and playful, with kids and such, but I’m much more decisive and action-driven. Voice is richer. I’m turning into what I should have been 10 years ago: a man.
Me, my sister, her kids and others spent this weekend in a summer cabin and I heard my sis and her man have sex one late night. The next day he was meek as a puppy, no outbursts. And he’s got a temper normally. So that taught me a bit about what one ejaculation does to a man, and if that’s done many times a week….imagine what a wuss that man must become over time.

Should I go for 3 weeks?

Cant Do Right lol June 24, 2012 at 7:49 pm

Was up guy’s I’m going for a full four weeks no touch

Black abstainer June 24, 2012 at 8:00 pm

Update- I’ve been doing it on and off. And this shit is hard af when your a teenager. I became depressed, started contemplating suicide more often, became impulsive, then out of no where i became calm and relaxed and i got so intelligent to the point were i could get top comment on youtube 2 times in a day. I’m back to the 7 week cycle.

muchacho June 26, 2012 at 6:49 am

Alright lads!
So i have been trying this 7 day cycle and it seems to be going pretty good. i gradually get more and more horny as the days go by like everyone else has observed and i begin to start thinking about having a masty all the time. but i have pretty good self control. I use to wank every day, and watch pretty intense porn as i got bored of the usual stuff, which really fucked with my social life in terms of having fun with woman.

What i have tried doing recently is not watching porn at all when i have a wank, this is basically because like many of you have observed when you take a girl home or whatever your dick just cant get hard. its that fuckn internet aye, the novelty of being able to watch anything you want. so when you see a naked girl in front of you, your mind is wired to think that it really aint that great cause you’ve wanked yourself senseless many times before over hot naked chicks. Anyways i have just started to experiment with this, ill still do this 7 day cycle but when i wank i wont use porn. Hopefully this will help me to get hard alot quicker next time i bring a girl home, because i have deprived myself of that sort of thing for so long. whats peoples thoughts?

Tiger Tony June 26, 2012 at 7:01 am

So 3rd day without watching porn and its been great. Its just so good not to masturbate. Yesterday picked up a girl that did it for me. I would have never picked her up if I had jerked off, as my interest and drive would have been inexistent. We had a great time too! We should build a community around this because most males now adays have been emasculated by porn and society in general.

H-Bomb June 27, 2012 at 5:57 am

As a matter of fact i have heard of this theory and have pursued the 7-day no masturbation “challenge”. I noticed a huge difference in my behavior and physical performance. I felt like a beast on days 6-7. I became much more aggressive towards other men, even when joking around. Also, i could talk to women much easier. Now when i plan to either approach or date a woman, i plan ahead and make sure i havent masturbated in at least 4 days. Thats when i notice initial differences. Its hard but i encourage everyone to try it. After 7 days you will never want to masturbate again!

Mattias June 27, 2012 at 7:43 am

@ Black abstainer.
I thought the suicide rate among blacks was close to zero. This is an eye opener. Maybe you should ask yourself why you are doing this abstinence thing. To be a member of the “club”? I’m doing it to get horny and hard for little things like a phat rear, lower my arousal standards to regular sex, and not let sexual fantasy get in the way of important everyday stuff. Anyway, congrats to the top comments on Youtube. :P

Fell off the waggon sunday (15th day) and kind of forced myself to be horny. Was a wuss especially tuesday. Day 3 now.

James Gray June 27, 2012 at 9:06 am

Day five going smooth I’m aimming for four weeks of no porn no flap (let me know what day some of you guys are on) motivate each other stay strong !!!!!

JOHN June 27, 2012 at 4:10 pm

Background: Heterosexual Adult Male, mid 30?s

Hypothesis: Something to the effect of male ejaculation is not needed, or abstain as long as possible.

Theorem: You will ejaculate no matter what. Remember Queen Mabb. The longest I have ever been able to go without ejaculating is approximately; 3 weeks.

You have to sleep sometime, and your subconscious will have you mating in REM sleep.

Thesis: It is better to control the outcome, rather than soil something when, or that, you do not actually want to.

JP June 27, 2012 at 4:52 pm

I am now almost a year without any orgasm whatsoever. There were 3 or 4 times however where I was masturbating and I came extremely, extremely close to an orgasm but stopped myself.
I am now without true masturbation for quite awhile (besides 15 secs lmao) as well as I decided to give that up. I have also been keeping tabs on what raw food, detox, water fasting, sunlight and exercise have been doing to me.
Before I started masturbating too much for years in my life, I never truly masturbated. I was naive and was just living life as a shy but yet bold at times kid and never did it. So that was years without masturbating. In that time before I started masturbating, I only orgasmed twice. Once while I was asleep and the second time while I was exercising. During this session of almost a year of no orgasms, I have had no nocturnal emissions while sleeping at all. None.
After thinking and reading about it and thinking about various things I’m more of the belief now that wet dreams are not something that is really supposed to happen if you’re eating what the body truly works on. I think wet dreams are definitely encouraged by improper diet which most humans have (and mine isn’t perfect either but I want it to be) Am I right? Am I wrong? I’m not sure but it’s interesting to me.

*Still watches a few minutes of porn and gazes at pics here and there. Living life dangerously:) You get sooo much more excited when youi’re not masturbating to this stuff.

Trying To Be A Brahman June 27, 2012 at 6:04 pm

@Black Abstainer
What’s your You Tube Channel, I’d like to check it out
Thanks man

Calming Effect June 28, 2012 at 10:55 pm

Whatsup all!
I’m on day 3 and tonite my “bounce” is coming back slowly.
Day 4 is when I’m ” normal” so can’t wait for tomoorow
Alright stay strong brothas!
For me If I go at least seven days I’m happy as long as I don’t go crazy after that. So once a week is my goal for now

Tokyo June 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm

is there anyone here who has access to a real woman (LOL) and have sex more than 3 times a week?

sorry, for the weird request, but here’s what I’ve been wondering. though I am more spiritually inclined, I’m not looking for a spiritual enlightenment through abstinence. I’d like to know if you’ve notice any similar signs of fapping too much, such as chronic fatigue, lack of energy, etc, from having lot of sex regularly?

I imagine all the extra oxytocin your body is radiating keeps you energized and in general, happy, which is all I want. from my last relationship, my ex wash’t very much into sex at all, kind of a stereotypical conservative catholic girl, so I wouldn’t know.

I am asking this only because I am enjoying the extra energy I have from my weekly abstinence, and I wouldn’t want to lose it though if I were to be in a relationship, I’d like to engage in sex at least 3 times. I know it depends on the girl, but if she’s not as active as I am sexually, I’ll just move on.

Tokyo June 29, 2012 at 4:25 pm

another observation.

instead of trying not to think about girls, or avoiding anything sexually stimulating, I like to keep the heightened sexual energy by looking at girls in the eyes for real, training the PC muscles regularly, and be very aware of the built up energy in my body.

it’s kind of a masochistic approach, but it keeps me constantly energized. I like it!

and speaking of masochistic approach, to those who “edge” but not ejaculate, have you noticed the difference in level of sexual energy after you have almost reached an orgasm without ejaculation??? if it doesn’t affect it, I’d like to try it!

Calming Effect June 29, 2012 at 8:41 pm

Tokyo,
Edging is not a good idea because it will give you “blue balls” and you will likely lose it couple of days later. But when i’m able to do it it gives me more energy than what i started with but right now i’m not gonna try it anymore
I’m on day 4 and enjoying the “bliss”

Ed July 1, 2012 at 7:12 am

Since my last post I lasted about 9 days and fapped 3 0r 4 times. I am on day two and day 3 is where I start to get new momentum. I think the cold weather in New Zealand really made me more horny. I am going to an escort, which I have been meaning to do for a while, for some weird reason something stops me. As for going beyond a month, I would need some tips, can anyone who has gone longer give me some advise?

28yrOldGuy July 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm

20 days, I had to stop after day 20 cause every little female reference was giving me erections. I even came a little while looking at a hot woman while riding the bus. Crazy! I think I went into a coma after shooting all my tension out on day 21 haha. Anyway I’ve read that for my age (28) is best to do it 3 to 4 times a week if you are not having sex.

Mattias July 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm

I’m so damaged by past fantasies about perverted stuff. I wake up with erections but I don’t get one when I’m supposed to (like, when seeing a sexy girl). Only degradation of a girl turns me on, but at the same time I’m a soft romantic. Wish I was less complicated and more like other guys who don’t give a crap about anything, and sleep around for the hell of it. Maybe I should just quit having sex at 35 (been years since last time so technically I quit years ago). I ordered Cialis online, because not being able to get it up at the crucial moment is what I fear the most.
I’m on day 8. I’m being more social at work. But lonely otherwise. Should I continue?

Ed July 2, 2012 at 8:28 am

I have slipped on Day 3, even though I can go up to a month, I get so horny after that month. Cooler weather as well. Hopefully I will be on track soon.

tom July 2, 2012 at 11:44 am

I’m on day 4. I’ve gone longer in the past, but for the past couple months I have been on a 2-3 times a day plan. Then last thurs i read this post on here and stopped the next day to see what would happen. Question: once you eventually do ejaculate, do you lose all the testosterone youve been building up, and have to start over?

Tokyo July 2, 2012 at 2:06 pm

@Mattias,

I’m around your age and I get what you are saying, man. but don’t rely on the pills! I had the same problem with a girl once, but it was in the beginning of the relationship. once I got to know her better and I was relaxed in bed, I had no problem with an erection, in fact, I could go longer now, like 30 mins easily. it’s not due to the abstinence, it was before I started abstaining. it’s all about the intimacy.

and what I ended up doing when I couldn’t get it up was giving her the best oral ever! so obviously she was satisfied.

as for my progress, I just went up to the 9th day. after the 7th day, it got too easy. I wasn’t as excited to see girls as much. so I imagine I could just go for a few months easily once I get past the 7th day. but I really do enjoy the horny state I’m in going up to the 7th day. I might try abstaining for 1 month just for the heck of it, but I don’t see much benefit from it.

Ed July 3, 2012 at 1:16 am

Yeah, the horny state you get in is awesome. It can leave you feeling a little anxious at times. Fapping has its place, it is just a matter of getting it out of your system from time to time. Once I get to a week it gets pretty easy.

Tiger Tony July 3, 2012 at 2:31 am

Its been a week and I coping very well with the urge.
I see only benefits:

1) very active with the other sex. I look at girls and smile at them, chat them up and flirt a lot.

2) have great dreams

3) more masculine, I bond way more with my male friends and I am more proactive

4) More energy for sport, for going out and more excited about life.

5) I am louder, more noisy in a way more clumsy in a sense that I slam things around whereas before I was way more gentle.

What can I say? All great. I belive that jerking off is a great bad habit if not a form of depression.

ed July 5, 2012 at 7:23 am

Hopefully I can get this week out of my system, as I feel a little flat and my workout could have been a little better, that is the real bonus of no fap. I know it really engages one’s willpower, to abstain, and I really like the feeling I get.

tom July 5, 2012 at 9:58 pm

I made it 4 days. Then had to release. Then I was fine the day after that. Then came today and had to again. I was about to explode and I’m not having any wet dreams to help me release some build up.

Ed July 6, 2012 at 3:07 am

Someone said in an earlier post that wetdreams are the result of dietary imbalances. While on holiday my diet was not bad, probably not as good as it is normally, and feel this could have been the result of my nocturnal spillage. That and the and the cold weather in NZ. I am going back to Uni in a few weeks and hopefully will reboot as this really helps with my study.

comeback July 6, 2012 at 6:57 am

I feel wet dreams and blue balls are the result of edging or any kind of stimulation without actually reaching an orgasm.

Trying to be a Brahman July 6, 2012 at 6:02 pm

@Ed
All the best Ed, hope it all be beneficial for your studies man, and as long as you sustain abstinence I can garanteed you’ll be secured in your studies and health. Once again all the best trying to be a Brahman

Ed July 7, 2012 at 7:50 am
Ed July 8, 2012 at 7:54 am

I am on Day 3 and hopefully can go in some momentum. If for anything the extra edge this gives me in the gym. This time I am going to resist porn, which if I can master will stop me edging, which prevents me going much longer than 3 or 4 weeks.

Mattias July 8, 2012 at 11:05 am

Day 15, no fap no porn. Job contract ended Friday so I’ll beat one out today because I’m down and miss being horny, and my balls are starting to hurt. Attracted girls like a magnet Thu-Fri.

Tokyo July 8, 2012 at 12:29 pm

@Mattias, man, if you are being a chick magnet, just talk to any one of them and go for the real stuff!

Mattias July 8, 2012 at 1:31 pm

@Tokyo, I did talk to them, but then what? 1) it’s hard to decide on one, 2) I’m never sure about the steps to take – if i invite one home she would want sex right away and I like going slow and getting to know, 3) I don’t like contaception and dont wanna get the wrong girl pregnant, plus other stuff

Tokyo July 8, 2012 at 3:59 pm

@Mattias,

1) pick whichever is willing to come home with you first. first come, first served.

2) let your horny mind take over your sanity. be in an automatic mode, let things happen. you are a chick magnet now, not a shy porn addict!

3) if you don’t wanna wear condom, consider spending hours of foreplay. it only gets her hornier and wanting to see you again for more orgasms.

I don’t think having an orgasm through sex / foreplay with a real woman does any harm, and in fact, it’s very healthy thing to do!

and the very purpose of not fapping is to reset our mind to appreciate real women, not out of porn. and for those who are suffering from ED, it helps greatly as well.

Ed July 9, 2012 at 9:11 am

Day 4 and things are starting to hum along nicely. Starting to feel a bit more of a surge of aggressiveness, which is a good feeling. I am making an effort to stay away from porn, which I think is helping. Fingers crossed I can get some new momentum. I read somewhere about Stalin being an edger, and that was how he got some of his power.

john July 9, 2012 at 8:31 pm

That test is B.S. Your testosterone levels are sky high after 3 weeks no ejaculation. The test should be re-done on men who can abstain for 2 to 3 month. I personally know the effects of 3 months semen retention. Your face/skin glows, you develop an aura or presence bigger than everyone in the room. You do not have to speak a word, every movement speaks louder than words.

Tokyo July 9, 2012 at 8:53 pm

@john, wow, I’m inspired! I gotta go at least 3 months with no fapping!

the more I read, the more I believe I should abstain from masturbation for good. as long as I can have sex, it’ll be easy not to fap.

Ed July 9, 2012 at 10:48 pm

John, have you any tips on how to last that long?

warrior July 10, 2012 at 8:24 am

hello!

warrior July 10, 2012 at 8:42 am

today is 132 day without mastarbaiting for me!last time i did it was before reading this blog at 29 february 5 am after fapping on porn..

Mattias July 10, 2012 at 2:16 pm

Dear Internets,
There was a first and secondary explosion in the groin area on Sunday. I didn’t notice any improvements at day 15 so I forced myself to eruption. Twice. I was disappointed in 1) superlow horniness and 2) weak ass erection and 3) it was over in a few minutes. Not the sensation I’m used to either. Dark, rich voice now on later half of 2nd day.
@ John, any more sources than your personal experience? Might be a fluke.
@ warrior, give us details!!! Please.

Mattias July 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm

@Tokyo, I got the pills home today. I will use them as a last resort in times of trouble… To get over the nervousness, or that mental bump between mind and penis.

warrior July 10, 2012 at 2:56 pm

well.i am 27 started masterbating at the age of a 12 and found porn when i was 14..i havent had a long lasting relation ships and was pretty miserable all my life.and the porn,well i found your blog at 4 am after i used 2 hours in internet to find something new to masterbate at..last 2 years i had some serious problems with my healt..pain in the lower back,really bad cold and stuffy nose.and worst of all some really bad nose bleeds.and about 6 month ago i started to lose my here so i was very depressed at that poin of my life when i found that info on your site.
funny thing is that i never heard ANYTHING about the possibility off too much fapping can be bad for a healt!when i read about you and the other guys experieces i thought that what idiot i have been!i was angry and pissed of at myself and at everyone around me becouse i never bothered to search for the information about masterbating side effects cause i thought that its ok..so decided that i will stop it!
i had a plan to start with 7 day cycle but after 7 days i felt so much better that decided to go another 7 days..and here i am now.

Mattias July 10, 2012 at 11:58 pm

@ warrior, thanks for sharing. The details I meant was how this experiment has affected you so far. 132 days is a helluva long time. You must’ve noticed a better quality of life after 30 days, otherwise why would you continue? So tell us, has life changed for you, and in what way? I want to regain my former horny self but get aroused by less crazy stimulation. How’s the libido after 132 days? Change in masculinity? Better with the ladies? I’m very very curious.

Mattias July 11, 2012 at 12:09 am

I’m not a fan of Ellen G White (founder of Seventh Day Adventists) but she wrote this in the 1800′s:
“If the practice [self-indulgence] is continued from the age of fifteen and upward, nature will protest against the abuse she has suffered, and continues to suffer, and will make them pay the penalty for the transgression of her laws, especially from the ages of thirty to forty-five, by numerous pains in the system, and various diseases, such as affection of the liver and lungs, neuralgia, rheumatism, affection of the spine, diseased kidneys, and cancerous tumors. Some of nature’s fine machinery gives way, leaving a heavier task for the remaining to perform, which disorders nature’s fine arrangement, and there is often a sudden breaking down of the constitution; and death is the result.”

Clinton July 11, 2012 at 12:52 am

Yeah some more info Warrior please. Are you more confident? Do you get erections easier now ect. Are you stronger? As much info as you can mate. Well done by the way

warrior July 11, 2012 at 4:06 am

Clinton well i do feel stronger now in every sence of that word.The eye contact is a funny thing and i used to struggle with that all my life but somehow i thought that it makes me better or something that i dont want to look anybody in the eyes.I live in estonia and it is pretty cold climate here so when i started to abstaining in beginning of the march i spent 95% of my time in my home and it made it pretty difficult i had no friends at all and i havent been even in cinema for last 2 years so forget about pubs and clubs.i think that what helped to succeed was 2 things.
1 I was really angry at my self when i understood that there is possibility that i made my life so miserable just becouse i did for a long time something that i thought is pretty normal thing to do.Everytime after fapping on porn i felt pretty bad especilally last 5 years when i had to search for a long time to find something kinky enough for my twisted mind.
2 I thought that its gonna be really difficult to do!so i prepared mentally for that.i was really scared of my cock at that point and treated him almost as enemy for first 20 days or so i did not block any porn sites on my pc just did not visit them.it was damn hard at first if i was just sitting and havent directed my thoughts consciously i found that my legs started to shake and it was hard to control them.At one point i missed porn so badly that i started to visit site where i used to download that shit just to chek out if there is somethin new that came out recently but i managed to control myself and did not download any of that shit.It lasted about 2 weeks and then i realised that i dont need that anymore.
At this point of my life i dont fee no urge to watch porn or to mastarbate!it dont feel like normal thing to do anymore!
The strange thing is that if i touch myself when i am alone it dont even turn me on!
And about benefits of abstaining for healt reasons sence i started my war with fapping becouse of that.
I had pretty bad hair loss..Now my hair looks better then it looked sence i was 20 or so probably its incredible!
Lower back pain?Gone after first month of abstaining!
Bleeding nose and constantly beeing ill?fixed
And now things that i did not noticed at first.I can see,hear,smell,feel and sence thing alot better and cleary now!I feel sooo good about myself and at control of situation that its hard to believe what a pathetic creature i was 133 days ago!My voice sounds deep and relaxed and my posture is insane!I feel like 10 cm taller now..And girls..Matthias talked about loaded gun theory and i must say it works!I am not sure if females can feel it or they read it from your body language,but there is big difference now how they look at me,how they talk took me and how i behave with ladys..
Anyways there is alot of stuff that i can share with you guys but sence i am no Jack London and english is not even my third language you must excuse me for kind of messy story.

Ed July 11, 2012 at 7:00 pm

It kind of sounds like cold turkey is the answer and that viewing porn and edging are really going to mess the whole process up. While I have gone just on a month, maybe a little more, I did edge and viewed porn. Without viewing anything or edging feels like a whole new dimension. Today is Day 7 and I am very inspired by Warrior. I am curious to know Warrior, if you had lots of nocturnal emmissions and stuff going on. That would surely make it a bit easier.

comeback July 11, 2012 at 8:35 pm

Any of you guys masturbate in the prone position e.g like rubbing yourself against the mattress?

warrior July 12, 2012 at 3:44 am

Well ED i havent noticed not even one nocturnal emission in that period of time.I had many erotic dreams and they where extremely vivid.I think that by edging on porn you making the whole process of abstaining a lot more difficult for yourself to follow through..
Tell me ED why did you stop after one month of abstaining?

Ed July 12, 2012 at 8:12 am

I have been practising this for quite a while now, I caved in since I am back hitting the gym I am feeling strong again. I got really horny after a month, and was about to get an escort, I was kind of using that to fall back on. Has this increased your options with the ladies, Warrior?

warrior July 12, 2012 at 11:15 am

In some ways yes it has.You probably know the feeling that you are not worthy that damn hot chik who dont even bother to look at you and even if she do you will not see it becouse you are too passive and scared to even look at her way?
It is amazing how come and composed you become after braking point.Ladys can definitely feel if you are insecure.YOU will give it away in so many ways and the worst thing is that you are so used to feel like gamma that you think it is you.ANXIETY is discusting word for me and so is depression i loved those words before and now i despise these words.We use them to cover up something that we think we dont control.You guys must understand one thing and start to value it.TIME dont waste your time on cheap thrills in life,thing like porn,mastarbating watching tv living somebody elses life.fuck it!we live one time so make it big!When you have urge to masterbate just imagine how pathetic you look?how can you respect yourself after that?set some real goals the goals that are big and ispire you dont waste your TIME and ENERGY on fapping it wont get you nowhere!You will say to me that it makes you feel good?in that case you dont know what feeling good really means..
I am at the point that my goals are bigger then most of people can imagine.I know exactly how i want my life to be and it will be like that.
And to Ed about ladys..I can have as much sex as i like becouse i have 3 ladys in my life now.Funny thing is that i value my time and my manjuce so much now that they feel blessed when they get some of that.and as i said i have some bigger game in my life now then sex and girls.
And one freaky thing is my sister dont hate me anymore and and we get along really well now.she used to pick on me always and now she respects me.

Ed July 12, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Thanks Warrior you are a real source of strength, I can relate to the last thing you said myself.

James Gray July 14, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Do women have the same issue? PLz Answer!

warrior July 14, 2012 at 3:01 pm

Yes they have and the reason for this is simple.Respect yourself and you will get respect from other people around you.

Ed July 14, 2012 at 7:48 pm
ED July 15, 2012 at 6:53 am

I am on Day 11 and the cutting out of porn has really helped. Today I was at the gym and an attractive women in her early to mid twenties was training right near me, I was trying to be polite by not stearing, as I virtually had her pussy steering right at me, I wasn’t doing anything deliberate to instigate this other than going about my normal workout. So far I am not experiencing the sudden onset of horniness which usually happens into week 3. If I can stay away from the porn and curb my anxiety I can sense more women coming into my everyday activity, without too much effort.

warrior July 15, 2012 at 7:00 am

ED good job mate keep your mind on things that are important to you and stay focused!You will be rewarded in many ways trust me.

ED July 15, 2012 at 11:09 pm

While I have read a great deal of PUA material and scene a lot of daygame stuff on the net, it is something which I don’t see myself doing consistantly. The community only briefly touches on the subject, of no fap or porn. I really think a book could be written on this subject.

another_follower July 16, 2012 at 6:11 am

There is a book, it’s called “The power of autosuggestion”…. there is also a saying “we see, what we want to see”.
There is also common-sense: when you get aroused and don’t do anything about it, it’s obviously gonna be a different state than over-masturbating…

ED July 18, 2012 at 6:00 am

Two weeks coming up no fap no porn and not feeling like caving in in the slightest. One thing I do know is when I do this I never plateau in the gym, Bench, Squats, Deadlifts, Pressups in particular are moving along nicely. Going back to Uni next week, so will be more occuppied. Feeling much more focused and expressing what is on my mind more. I really think most men come down because they can’t manage their horniness.

Blue Cheese July 18, 2012 at 11:11 am

Does it help with size if you go no fap for a bout a month? @ED @warrior @Mattias

Rave July 18, 2012 at 2:45 pm

I’m coming up to my first 2 weeks ever! I’m on day 12 right now, last night I was extremely horny that it took me 2 hours to fall asleep. Question, I sort of did a little edging without porn.. But didn’t necessarily use the standard jacking off notion. I just pushed my boner forward lightly and carrassed the top of it untill pre ejaculation fluid came out.. Have I relapsed? I didn’t orgasm nor ejaculate at all.

Ed July 18, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Well Rave I am about the two week as well, last night I had a nocturnal. A useful site I use warns strongly against edging, more for its affect on releasing Dopemine. It also says no fap is more about not getting addicted to the Dopemine release, as opposed to the increased T production.

Justin July 19, 2012 at 1:32 am

You sound a lot like me and the experiments I have conducted on myself with the same topic. I am really glad to see someone had the idea of what I was going for. In the past I tried to stop masturbating all together and that is sort of where I am now and how I found your article. For some factual evidence that I discovered a little more than a year ago, I got into the best physical shape I had been in since high school by living by a cycle very similar to the way you described. You are right, it can be very difficult.

Mattias July 19, 2012 at 6:43 am

@ Blue Cheese. I got smaller the longer I went with abstaining. Or rather, it just went dead on me (but had wood every goddamn morning). Lost my job after about 15 days of abstinence and the depression and boredom made me give in. Since then I’ve had 5-7 day intervals and size looks right. Ask Warrior for long-term size benefits.
For many years I’ve been doing jelqing on-and-off and have added more than an inch. 2 side effects: Must stretch testicle skin for a period to make it not cling; have to shave lower part of shaft every now and then. Plus, it’s time consuming, and you have to fantasize sexually to maintain a semi-erection during exercise.
Off-topic but you asked about size.

lightkeeper July 19, 2012 at 8:50 am

lol rave ya you did and Ed is right. Not so much with ejaculation per se but the way you mess with your neurotransmitters. anyway great article

warrior July 19, 2012 at 11:05 am

i wander if Nikola Tesla really was a vigrin?the guy was genious and never had sex?hard to believe!

Ed July 20, 2012 at 7:45 am

I was waiting to see a doctor over dermatitise on my leg which has been itching lately and causing me problems. Anyway I was a good hour in the waiting room. Right in front of me a sales rep was doing a glasses display. For a good 20-30 minutes she stayed in my ficinity, I found her as distracting as hell as she was wearing black opaque stockings, thankfully, I have sucked in that energy, and not let it get the better of me. Is this whole thing a test of our resolve, and do the men with the most self control eventually get their pick of fine ass ladies.

Trying To Be A Brahman July 20, 2012 at 2:05 pm

@Ed It’s true man I can guarantee you on that one. It’s all a test ,at the moment I’m still maditating on drawing that energy from my manhood in order to keep up with my abstinence. Ed it’s all about controlling that blood flow thats circulating the manhood and making sure it doesn’t build up with that pressure, especially if I see a nice chick

Ed July 20, 2012 at 10:13 pm

I watch a lot of PUA daygame stuff on the net and see these guys sarging on the streets doing multiple approaches. Some of these guys look down right weird or are over the top. I am curious to know whether it is really necessary to do multiple approaches when on a full tank.

Jay July 21, 2012 at 6:58 pm

Tired of using Escorts

- Been viewing porn for a long time, since grade 7, been master-bating since grade 9
-Known about this site for a while. Have seen benefits from not flapping. Done 3 weeks once and a month another time. End up relapsing and have horrible chasing, where I end up using Escorts. I am tired of doing this and know its stupid. Made a list to why I see Escorts.

I am a decent looking guy, go to the gym 3 times a week. I do go on dates but I have never had a steady GF. Also the only women I have had sex with are prosistutes.
- Being Alone
- No GF
- Bored
- Horny
- Feel like I cant get any sex whenever I want
- Easier and cheaper than pursing women ( dates cost$ )
- Done and Gone, don’t have to deal with women’s emotions , etc
- They have more experience
- Not confident in myself enough
- Somethings I think I am not good looking enough
- Self Conscious
- Isolated
- Feel like I can relax more after having sex
- Addicted to masterbating and having sex helps me stop masterbating

I will say that after I found this site and stopped flapping, I have had more success with women, getting more #’s , makeouts , dates, etc, something that was very rare before. My problem is once I relapse , I go on these terrible flapping binges also known as “chasers”. I am scared that during this time, women can “sense” that I am flapping and that they pickup on it. I know its probably all in my head but I am just not as confident then when I am not flapping.

I have decided I need to go for 90 days.. I think. I am going to give it a try. Starting now. Hopefully I can post back in 90 days and give you guys a successful update.

Ed July 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm

Thanks Jay, you are not alone my friend. Escorts are a smart option, most males you talk to will be reluctant to admit to ever using them. A few of my friends use them, I do myself. The reality for me is that, if I was going out every weekend getting trashed aka drunk, I would be picking up, that is how it works in OZ and NZ. That is also how the vast majority of couples have hooked up. However I am very dedicated to my fitness and your body can only tolerate so much alchol, while I don’t look my age I am 42 it is very important that I look after myself, fitness is a priority. Escorts are a better option however one must be careful about using them too often. The seduction community has opened my eyes to the world and most guys here would vouch for that. Social circle maybe ok for women, for men it is simply a hoop they put in front of us. Depending on where you live, using an escort is more socially acceptable in some places more than others. If there was not so much stigma attached to using them, the dating dynamic would be very different indeed.

Tokyo July 22, 2012 at 9:32 am

RE: Escorts

I totally agree. most of my single friends spends so much money on going out, just hoping they could maybe once if they are so lucky, there’s a slight chance they might meet some girl who may or may not even give them her number!

if I went out with these buddies every time, I’d be spending way more than I would for an escort. and with an escort, you get to choose whom you like, very often you get to do what you like, with a lot less pressure.

so if I ever land the girl of my dream in real life, I will know better what to do.

Ed July 23, 2012 at 2:18 am
Tokyo July 23, 2012 at 9:03 am

@Ed, that’s a great link!!! thanks! it makes sense to me at least. maybe you can already tell that I have frequented some brothels, and let me tell you this. you will get a better quality that way. sure it’s always hit and miss, but the majority of the time, escorts are way hotter than the ones I can picks up. I can see the benefits in following the PUA method if you are good looking to begin with, but I’m not. if I can manage to hook up with an average looking girl, that’ll be a huge accomplishment for me. honestly, I don’t want to find the love of my life at a club or bar. not my style. perhaps through work or evening classes or something. but until then, escorts and massage parlours are the way to go FOR ME.

John July 23, 2012 at 10:31 am

I don’t mind being a fluke, I’m not here to convince you of anything. I abstained ejaculation for 3 months & with tons of edging + deep diaphragm breathing to avoid “blue balls.”

My entire face/skin were radiant glowing, like passing a mirror, I almost not recognized myself. Seriously, Id stop, turn around and just stare at myself in the mirror. This radiant glowing face with piercing sparkling eyes.

I remember coming out of my building and this beautiful women saying: “You are so gorgeous.” The interesting part is after I ejaculated a few days later, I ran into the same girl and she did not even notice me. Also during this time a girl came up to me and looked me up and down with her eyes. (visibly flirting).

It gives you an aura or powerful presence, there’s a reason Hitler, Jesus, ect (powerful leaders) all retained their semen. Let’s take Hitler, although I did not like his actions, you must acknowledge he was powerful and bad *** .

He was celibate, with strong powerful sexual energy channeled through LEADERSHIP & POWER.

P.S. Today is my 42nd day no ejaculation & I know the difference.

Calming Effect July 23, 2012 at 9:05 pm

@John

Hey man where can i find proof of Jesus practicing semen retention? Just curious.
I’m on Day 4 and this time I want to take it to 30.

Rave July 24, 2012 at 1:29 am

Very inspiring post John. But I would like to know where you found out Hitler abstained, I never knew that and it explains a whole lot about his power.

Ed July 24, 2012 at 3:45 am

I have heard Stalin practised it, and also that Mohamid Ali abstained before many of his famous fights. I know there are some monks not sure what they are called who tour the world performing superhuman feats. Funny thing I saw a movie on cheerleading and there was an actor who made reference to not violating himself before a demonstration he was going to be in.

Ed July 24, 2012 at 5:00 am

PUA is a good movement, it recquires a great deal of innergame and self belief no mater who you are to pull it off. Hell you have to practically make yourself into a celebrity. I would say a large number of men are going down the escort route, the exact numbers I don’t know, as a lot of people would be reluctant to admit it. The reality is even a plain Jane has more mating options in men when she goes to a bar than even Brad Pitt a goodlooking movie actor, there is a huge disparity and it is putting poon to a point where it is becoming overvalued in our society. The sex industry could be like alcohol after the prohibition. I can see more and more demand for escorts and eventually a greater acceptance of it.

John July 24, 2012 at 8:30 am

The greatest people that walked on the planet all knew how to manage their sexual energy. They never squandered it carelessly. Do you think Genghis Khan who conquered half of the planet was ejaculating every day? Einstein the father of relativity?

YES Hitler knew that he should conserve his sexual energy. His charisma was so great that women would get orgasms the moment he entered a room. Not saying be hitler, he channeled? his energy in an unfortunate direction.

John July 24, 2012 at 8:32 am

Hitler channeled his energy in an unfortunate direction.

Just saying…

Ed July 24, 2012 at 8:57 am

What we are basically practising is “Sex Transmutation” as it is referred to by Napoleon Hill in “Think and Grow Rich”, there is an entire chapter on the subject. He also goes on to say that men hit their best years when they hit their 40s and beyond and that if they learn to harness the energy properly and contructively, these are a man’s most fruitful years. A lot of the behaviour of Catholic Priests and other monsters often gets attributed to lack of getting a release, while I have never felt in anyway out of control, could it be something some people aren’t able to handle and responsible for any negative consequences? Curious for your opinions.

John July 24, 2012 at 10:41 pm

Geniuses who were celibate. Here’s a list:

Albert Einstein
Nikola Tesla
Isaac Newton
Ludwig Beethoven
Friedrich Handel
Soren Kierkegaard

Gandhi
Sigmund Freud
Plato
Socrates
Aristotle
Jesus Christ
Abraham Lincoln

Leonardo Di Vinci
Michelangelo
Florence Nightingale
Immanuel Kant
Emily Dickenson
Lewis Carroll
Hans Christian Anderson
George Bernard Shaw

List goes on and on….

John July 24, 2012 at 11:20 pm

ED

If there is no way of transmuting the sexual energy, then it’s best to release via ejaculation. That’s a torturous hell no one should place themselves. I never have such problems… in the heat of sexual arousal I shut my eyes, take deep diaphragm breaths & visualize a new Porche, or large amounts of money, or my adult XXX film website i’ll soon be launching.

After 10, 20 seconds visualization my erection subsides & im back to normal without needing to ejaculate.

Trying to be a Brahman July 24, 2012 at 11:39 pm

@John
Great post, nice to see an intelligent brother, who knows what his talking about when it comes to rechannelling sexual energy. I’ve learnt keep that energy away from the genital area, and redirecting it in to other parts of my body, it’s hard but it takes a strong mind and lots of practice.

Ed July 25, 2012 at 12:52 am

Thanks John you absolutely Rock. That is a great way to look at it. I am getting more effective at it thanks to you guys on this forum. Was a time the sight of black nylons sent me a bit wonky, now I kind of hold it in and suck it up. The weights are a great release for me, and my studies which are on Urban Planning, which I will be doing shortly, as the new semester starts. It is a very important subject as the sight of my hometown Christchurch, NZ has deeply affected me, after seeing it for the first time since the big earthquake.

John July 25, 2012 at 2:29 am

Exactly, you guys are incredible. Brahman, Ed, you two are rare individuals on the mere edge of power. Soon you will discover the power in 3 months retention; whereas your body begins reabsorbing this powerful essence.

Things then will become effortless for you. People will wonder why you’re so successful when apparently you don’t work very hard.

Ed July 25, 2012 at 4:43 am

I am probably at Day 21, no porn, no fap. Worst I have done is look up bit of an erotic story, and an article on a forum, no more than perusing. Really getting into my job as a postie, which gives me really good cardio, as I am riding my bike and walking for a good few hours each day. I am hitting the gym about five days per week, and looking forward to doing some good workouts this week. As for edging, I have stayed away from that as it makes things more difficult.

jerry July 25, 2012 at 11:41 am

Hey guys just wanted to comment on what a guy called edging. Which is viewing porn and masterbating to the edge of masterbation and then ceasing. I went cold turkey on no masterbation then found edging and finally realized after
edging for the longest time (i can also stop my orgasm)

is that semen tends to get through anyways. If you look at your urine like if you pee in a jar after a session semen does get through the excitment and the other sensations down below indicate that you did a minor form of masterbation which is still huge since motivation and emotional feelings lull and you dont feel energetic throughout the day.

I finally realized that the best policy is not touching your dick AT ALL!! since edging builds the orgasm to high peaks and can end up with even more semen in your urine then if you just quickly rubbed one out.

I’m now going cold turkey again knowing there is no easy way out to relieve the tension just have to push through it. Another indicator that edging doesnt work is that i couldnt even get it up to a new (i like novelty) hot chick that i bedded, it was a huge shock to my self esteem.

Ed July 25, 2012 at 6:51 pm

Yeah I think edging is giving you a bit of a dopamine rush. Not being exposed to internet porn, makes a big difference. I would be interested to know whether doing no fap, no porn has an effect on PE or whether that is more a result of edging.

jerry July 25, 2012 at 10:03 pm

@ matthias

Your post about picking up girls during the day time is easy. I do only daytime since i have somebody come home during the evening. I picked a girl up friday she was easily an 8. She was at barnes and nobles and just started talking to her pretending i was interested in my magazine as i sat next to her.

We had small chat and i asked her if she drinks. I hint that i have drinks at my place and end up taking her home. I usually get a girl liquored up so i can make my moves easier and for their resistance to drop. She was more interested in having sex on the spot then drinking as i told her we should go out and get drinks from walmart or something since what i had on hand sucked. She just started being all flirty and i knew right there i could make my move so i kissed her and thats how that went.

I have picked up girls here and there you have to ask them if they drink and then have the end in mind of going back to your place for a drink or just small chatting them for a bit.
Girls get horny ALOT more then you think and want to fuck A lot. many girls dont have ambitions or projects so they channel alot of energy in sex.

Picking up girls in the daytime can be done but yes getting an escort can be really satisfying if they are not time watchers. 1 hour is usually enough for me to get to know them for a little bit ( build tension) then lead them to bed.

I have pulled off amazing feats through so many approaches. I was also a masterbator im curious to find out if this experiment helps in my approaches as im an opportunist and put on masks for different situations coming up with scenarios on the spot to get the womans number or instadate.

jerry July 25, 2012 at 10:20 pm

@ED

The pdf that someone linked earlier where it has all the testomonies of men and abstaining, some of the guys in there mention PE ending after they quit masterbation.

I suffer highly from PE if i can even get it up in the first place which is not easy not even with stuff like maca, raw cacao, some other herbal stuff so after bedding that chick from barnes and nobles picking her up i knew right there and then that i had a problem as she was good looking and when i finally did get it up i got to climax after like 15 seconds. (i tried semen retention, semen just ended up in my urine.)
I saw her one more time.

She didnt want to see me anymore as it apparently was all about the sex and i immediately became needy and depressed. I literally balled my eyes out and felt so empty.

I realized that edging still created feelings of lack of motivation and a dopamine buzz you are literally skirting with danger.
From doing edging for so long i realized after close examination that if you get excited close to climax you WILL LOSE SEMEN it goes right into the toilet. You feel a sensation from under your balls and that is a sign that you just lost some juice as soon as you take a piss it will be there. It helps to not look at porn but if your extremely horny with mental imagery your asking for trouble.

I know its going to be easy this time around as the pain was so immense i went through, i feel so highly motivated for change im on day 3 so we shall see.

jerry July 25, 2012 at 10:22 pm

@mathias

correction: daytime pickup is simple not easy theres a difference.

sorry about so many posts at once

John July 25, 2012 at 11:52 pm

@ Jerry
“When say that you will lose the semen once you urinate in the toilet.”

Did you allow it to enter your urethra? Were you taking deep diaphragm breaths allowing the energy to move throughout chakras inside your body?

Could it of possibly been Cowper fluid OR Prostatic fluid & not the actual essence lost?

Ed July 26, 2012 at 3:32 am

I think edging can be ok if it is under control. You are still technically, still retaining it. In the book “The Game”, Neil tries the 30 day challenge, unsuccessfully. While Mystery practises this to some extent, no one has ever really given this a test case, who has done this for a longer period of time. I am reading bits of “The Way of the Superior Man”, which touches on the subject heavily. John Gray who wrote the Mars and Venus books was another good example, funny how he is seldom mentioned these days.

warrior July 26, 2012 at 5:58 am

hmm..i think that edging is somethig that you do when you dont control your thoughts and start to slip.You should try to get some control back over your horniness and do something else.I would recommend self esteem hypnosis it will get you relaxed and focused on good sides in you.It really helped me alot.

JP July 26, 2012 at 8:46 am

Like I mentioned earlier, I’m almost 300 days wo an orgasm. At first I was doing edging but than I stopped. Than it was limited masturbating. Than it was just limited porn.

I’ve been experimenting with a lot of different health things (raw food, detox, strenght building, suntanning the entire body, keeping track of how I feel with the different times I go to sleep, testesterone and exercise and so on)
I haven’t watched any porn in a good little while though not a long time now and I am going to keep it that way. I was wondering lately about sex drive and how high it was. But today while soaking myself in the sun I started to think about women sexually and woah boys it was intense and fun. Maybe it was the sun giving extra energy to my two little friends but I really enjoyed thinking and visualising about women I had met in real life rather than having a computer screen do it for me. No more porn for me. I would rather use my imagaination and this energy for inspiration to mate in real life.

JP July 26, 2012 at 8:56 am

Jerry

I have heard PE can be related to hyperthyroidism, not enough Vitamin D form the sun. I also once heard a story online about how when a guy got his almagams out he suddenly lost his PE and could last a lot longer

I may have PE but I don’t really know because of my shyness level through life. I think I may have be able to last longer now than I used to. I imagine once one gets everything working effeciently in their body than this would not be a problem anymore.

JP July 26, 2012 at 9:04 am

But this is a question I want to know the answer to. When the time comes I want to last a good amount of time with my partner for both myself and her.

jerry July 26, 2012 at 11:09 am

@John
I was visualizing energy going up as the energy was building up around my root chakra. I would stop alot of times before i felt it was going to be the point of no return but when you keep doing it because it feels good and you have multiple orgasms without ejaculation its extremely tempting to just keep on doing it.
I have the ability to orgasm without ejaculation its the consistent series of them where at some point you can feel it flow a little bit because you went a little too far even though i close my anus and try to draw it elsewhere. Maybe im only experienced enough to orgasm without ejaculation and that im not drawing it in another place correctly. I just know this stuff takes practice so your going to fail alot.

I know its seminal fluid as its thick and you can feel it leaving your penis sometimes, i feel unmotivated, feel good for a little while then just want to take a nap. I get sad randomly throughout the day and the wake up call of PE got me back on this journey again this time without fooling myself thinking edging is some sort of salvation from the intensity we are all experiencing with abstinence.

@warrior
I agree not to masterbate at all. The way i feel is that if your going on a raw food diet then lose the willpower to not eat that pizza. Your body goes on a junk food eating streak likes its making up for lost time. I’ve read alot of posts of people who just “look” at porn or edge and end up masterbating in series its like the monster wants you to go back to old habits and since you have given in a little it has enough strength sometimes to pull you back all the way.

We have seen a decent amount of posts of people who dont masterbate at all and supposedly so many others do it in the east. I think we just need to push through the pain and pull through on the other side like these other guys who do 30-90 days. The suffering must end and life tends to reward those who deserve it not those who want it to happen.

I also think its crucial to learn how to draw that energy into other areas like many others have mentioned. Just think what you can create with that intensity on your root chakra (groin)

When i went many days without masterbating i had some of the most badass sex sessions in my dreams 1 of which i remember distinctly it was like my first love i was so giddy and thought about her alot after i woke up i never had to write it down it was that vivid. That week i got so many things done with a smile on my face.

jerry July 26, 2012 at 11:36 am

you still have PE after 300 days of abstinence i guess addressing other things are just as important.

This is why i have taken up raw food smoothies, no ejaculating, and exercising everyday my lifestyle is now bent around doing energy work, keeping a journal, doing grateful exercises, EFT just alot of stuff to hit on a bunch of notes so hopefully my body gets back and stays in great working order.
Its sometimes fun to chase highs but im sick and tired of the unsatisfaction i have with life in general i want it to be like it once was where every little thing you do is pleasurable.

To give an example when i was doing qigong (i stopped because of lack of energy/motivation with edging) virtually everyday life would be sweet in even the most mundane things. I could pick up a pen and write in my journal and it would be pleasurable. Picking up toothpaste to put on my toothbrush was pleasurable. Turning the page in a book etc….

JP July 26, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Jerry, you mentioned herbs earlier? I highly reccomend listening to Dr. Robert Morse, a natural doctor who specialises in true detoxification. He has his own herbs aand is a very intersting and cahrasmatic person to listen to. The man has a giving soul and has sent countless time answering people’s health questions on youtube. He was reccomended to me by someone I trust. I love his take on how the human body works. It adds up so perfectly with what I’ve experienced and seen in life. One of his products — Reproductive formula I believe — helps with PE along with other things. I imagine once you get the body in perfect working order, endurance will always be there:)

John July 27, 2012 at 12:56 pm

Wow, I totally agree with you on that Jerry. You know It is reassuring to realize we’re actually in this together. Today’s my 46th day (no ejaculation), but could very easily be my 1st, like i’m sure someone else on here. So with that said I’ve decided to cut the edging out completely and transmute the sexual energy through meditation thought.

John July 27, 2012 at 12:59 pm

*meditative thought*

Ed July 27, 2012 at 11:02 pm

Day 24 and am finding this challenge much easier, again the porn component is a factor which is what tortures men. Found myself getting a bit emotional from time to time. I know I would definetly be struggling a great deal had I been exposed to porn and edging. This would usually be the time where I started to cave in. Its funny I kind of think I know where a lot of women get there power of men from, and doing this makes us less vulnerable to that manipulation and puts the power with us.

jerry July 28, 2012 at 3:04 pm

@Jp
Thanks i will check into it.

Ive literally spent hours reading this forum awhile back and then rereading it again, reading the pdf that someone sent in one of their posts which has so many testimonies of people going to several other websites and im convinced of a few things.

Ive read some more stuff on edging one guy mentions its worse then masterbation which in a sense i can understand why since theres a constant release of dopamine instead of just one blast which is the suspicions i had since it only makes sense.

Recovering from PMO is worse then nicotine and alcohol and a couple describe it after coming off heroin that they believe its similar in its just warping of the body as well as the mind for awhile.

One thing that really gotten me focused on this and ive read countless posts from elsewhere as well as here is that 3 months is a safe bet to fully recover. Some had gone 1- 2 months and relapsed and ended up literally back at square 1 like they made zero progress which is quite eye opening.

the 2 greatest motivators according to jack canfield is the pain of what you went through if you go back and the reward at the end of the tunnel. I believe pain is a bigger motivator and after my “im in a bottomless pit i have no hope” crying episode i have enough pain to see this through.

1 tip im going to give you guys i think this is highly invaluable and will save ya’ll alot of frustration and pain is to lay off meat and dairy. I’m wholeheartedly convinced after so many failed attempts with being strictly on a raw food diet that those 2 are HUGE contributing factors in whether you feel horny later on and im talking about that massive urge to screw anything.

Some people have mentioned that they are having trouble on day 3-7 or w/e and other guys have skimmed through it and are on like week 2 and 3 with quite ease i believe what they ate determines whether this will be easy or not. I am on day 6 and i have urges but they are not these ridiculous uncontrollable urges. I have other withdrawal effects but this time around its so much easier when before i was eating out all the time to give me another outlet.

jerry July 28, 2012 at 3:17 pm

@John

I highly highly recommend if you want to get through this not to edge. I dont know who created this edging mess but i think they should be slapped around for creating more suffering among men with a false sense of hope, that they can glide right on through this.

I dont know why it seems from others that 1 time is enough to undo all what you have done but apparently we are dealing with a different animal here. I dont know if it has to involve porn or if its ok to have sex and ejaculate with your wife/girlfriend im going to go cold turkey altogether. The pain is just too great and the reward ever so amazing. I read posts from others who have done it for a couple months or more and its almost like i can feel their bliss and peace

Ed July 29, 2012 at 12:33 am

I think this forum rocks, there are a few blokes at various stages of this challenge, which makes this a great support system. The more it is updated the better, if any of us are doing it tough coming here really helps.

Black abstainer July 29, 2012 at 10:17 pm

Guys!!! I think I just found something out! It turns out that the reason we lose energy during masturbation isn’t because of the orgasm but its because of the dramatic loss of semen. Semen has a lot of Chi, Vitamins, and Minerals in it and when we lose that we’re are leaving nothing left for our bodies to use. So if you still want to masturbate then simply hold in your man jelly upon orgasm.

try kegel exercises

John July 30, 2012 at 7:41 am

It’s important to understand, firstly, that it’s not “required” that you release this energy through a sexual activity. Most people unconsciously believe that they must find an outlet to their sexual energy through a sexual activity, hence they either suppress this energy in them (due to some orthodox beliefs) or try to release it as quickly as it emerges. But in truth, a completely different dynamic plays out in your physical expression when you don’t release this energy through sexual activity and simply contain it, allowing it to course through your space. It develops an energy of “magnetism” in your being – a charisma. When you don’t release this energy through a sexual activity, it will automatically channel into another creative outlet.

jerry July 30, 2012 at 12:56 pm

@black abstainer

In my opinion that is incorrect. You lose sexual energy when you masterbate without semen release its just not that hard a blow to your body mind and spirit as if you ejaculated.

Endorphins and chemicals are still released to some degree just no semen.

I can orgasm without semen release but the animal comes back time and time throughout the day and makes you want to keep doing it and for the weakwilled in the moment can suck you back into the habit since many use it for stress release from their circumstances its a perfect storm to teeter on that edge then one day you just say “screw it” and relapse. It’s also that fine line that your playing on that if you do get too excited at any moment there will be seminal fluid loss.

I havent mastered it by any means but i have tried it so many times now over at least 2 years that it just leads you to “whats the point” all these failures and depression and anxiety to eventually learn something in my opinion just isnt worth it.

The way i see it especially if your looking for a mate is why stay low vibration when you can practice a little self control and be able to meet higher frequency and quality women which will enhance your life instead of take away, i cant explain it but i know women sense vibration and have had excellent people come into my life when i abstained awhile back, and now im convinced to make it through 30-90 days my ultimate goal to be 90

jerry July 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm

@John

That is very nicely said i highly agree with that 100 percent.

Sexual energy is creation energy. Hence the power to procreate and make another lifeform or use it to bring value to the marketplace, or through creative outlets.

The way i understand it through reading about eastern traditions, metaphysical, esoteric and scientific. I have come to understand that energy originates in the root chakra (groin) we have trained that, that is the place where its going to be released so alot of times it gets stuck there. It helps to do energy exercises or visualization or something to bring that energy up but i also understood it as when energy congregates there enough it will realize that that is no longer an avenue of release so it breaks away to other parts of the being.

Well regardless its interesting and the way i figure it is if you want to have sex just wait knowing that a higher quality partner will come around and when your ready you will have larger selection to choose from. Amazing things happened in the women department when i didnt masterbate. It’s definetely metaphysical and surreal to say the least.
When i was a chronic masterbator i got lucky from time to time but it was always with a lower quality of women even if a few of them were good looking.

jerry July 30, 2012 at 1:58 pm

@black abstainer

I reread my post i didnt mean to discourage the practice i have heard of some things like bringing semen up the spine or bringing it somewhere else. A lot of research ive come to find out it takes alot of practice and some of it can be harmful if your channels are not clear or doing it correctly. Too much convoluted information of different opinions and not enough info to be conclusive from what ive seen.

Your young so i can understand how its very tempting to go seek out girls since our primitive brains and our advanced thinking brain seem to always be in conflict, it took alot of sex, alot of masterbation a variety of women to come to this conclusion after getting alot of it out of my system.

I was even an asshole i wanted to cum inside a girl who wasnt on birth control because it excited me greatly. I had my chance a very pretty one in fact and she just lost her virginity so she was ignorant and she didnt know where i lived and we didnt have each others numbers. She got so excited from feeling each other that she agreed to let me go in raw since i didnt have any condoms on hand. When i was inside her i couldnt do it. I realized its not what i wanted its what i thought i wanted. I got it out of my system though perhaps i wanted revenge on women or an insecurity i had, i have no idea but its easier to abstain now then it was before i just had to experience different women, different women of all shapes and sizes and scenarios to gain a perspective to find out where i wanted to go. In this case not back to being a slave to my sexual desires

Black abstainer July 30, 2012 at 9:59 pm

@ No problem Jerry, I learned alot just now.

John July 30, 2012 at 10:33 pm

Why is it called “pent up sexual energy? “

John July 31, 2012 at 8:39 am

The sexual-emotional or “pent up sexual” energies flowing within and around us provide critical nourishment to our manifesting world. Energy, as it moves through human beings, becomes matter. Energy-in-motion serves as the raw material with which we participate in the cocreation of reality. Each of us succeeds or fails in life to the degree that we give form and direction to this creative force.

jerry July 31, 2012 at 11:45 am

The way i understand it. All creation/sexual energy originates in the groin area and since most dont know what to do with it people just use the reptilian portion of the brain to spill the seed and the energy that comes with it. Otherwise it just collects until it breaks into other areas of the body or until you consciously move it around. Sexual Energy is creation energy and everytime you ejaculate your directing it towards the creation of another lifeform which serves no purpose unless thats what you want, wasted potential.

James Gray July 31, 2012 at 6:24 pm

Man you guys I’m on day 11 aiming for two weeks I fell ok.

jerry August 1, 2012 at 12:03 am

@James Gray

what are you trying to accomplish? If your trying to reboot you have to go much longer then that.

James Gray August 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm

@jerry how long

JP August 2, 2012 at 5:43 am

Months ago, I had a conversation about sex and masturbation with my cousin. He had come to the conclusions that sex is great but if you overdo it it will drain your energy for life.

Also the big conclusion was his statement with conviction of “not masturbation is the key to life” It was an awesome conservation especially after hearing from pro masturbators who believe none of the “bs nonsense” we’re talking about. There seems to be a big divide among people similar to dentists/almagams or nonvaccinated (way healtheir) vs vaccination (health annihilator) people but one of the things he brought up was interesting. This is stuff I wish there was studies on. He said if you put yourself in a room with 10 ladies (let’s say they’re all fairly similar) and let’s say 9 of them were masturbators. His conclusion was that you would be most attracted to the non masturbator. That’s a very interesting thought. What do people here think?

warrior August 2, 2012 at 6:07 am
jerry August 2, 2012 at 1:05 pm

@James Gray

From countless hours of reading peoples testimonies and posts this has become quite an obsession for me. From what i can tell it seems 1-3 months is ideal i dont think its as simple as that but that seems to be a safety net. From reading im going 3 months no less, no O.

Theres research that says it takes 6 weeks for the addictive chemicals to leave your brain but im not leaving anything up for chance i will just become extremely productive and make sure my brain has changed.

@Jp
I would say that might be true for men women supposedly dont lose much essence from masterbation but this stuff is just really surfacing for men so im sure the ladies stuff will be out eventually but its still news for us and this stuff is clearly detrimental in all facets of life.

James Gray August 2, 2012 at 8:29 pm

@jerry that seems like a long time I think I could do it tho. What I did so far to stop was getting away from my home for two weeks. To really stay away from my computer I think it’s the devil. Lol I was fapping like crazy at home but now I only think about real women I see the difference and now I’m aiming to reboot <<<< Day13 today

Ed August 3, 2012 at 3:51 am

I am probably up to a month and it is true you start getting more attention from higher quality ladies. Today I was doing some work when a group of women one very hot were giggling, and I realised I was bending over right in front of them as I went past. It is little things like this that happen, which really compliment doing this. Plus the extra oomph it gives me in general.

Ed August 3, 2012 at 9:26 am

Awesome article, so this kind of goes with Adam and Eve and the forbidden fruit scenario. I am on my longest spell, and feel great. Deadlifted double my bodyweight for 3 sets of 5 plus did 4 on my last set. My Bench Press is around 5 sets of 9 with 80 kg, I probably weigh 72kg at the most at 5”7. I see no real advantage of gaining excessive mass as I am reasonably cut and have 15 inche arms. May have to take a day or two off gym as I hurt my hand after stacking it on my bike. Making consistant strength gains in gym, pushups can easily knockout 50-70, working up to 100 is not a big deal. Aiming to get my squat up to 100kg for some good reps. My cardio is good too and have good ab definition, not overly hungup on dieting although my nutrition is pretty spot on. Supps do help a lot. No fap is one of the best preworkouts known to man.

Mattias August 3, 2012 at 7:12 pm

I totally made a mockery of myself and got enchanted by the wonders of digital imagery… Been falling back for the last couple of weeks with 2-3 days between each pop. Some kind of depression I guess, as I’ve also become addicted to weird videos on Youtube again. (Escapism!) Once you give in to temptation you’re stuck again. The pleasure center of your brain is rewarded.
I am on day 4. Looked 5-10 years younger after the gym Tuesday, but succumbed to temptations that same night. My male aggressiveness is coming back. Gym tomorrow.

Jason Rocker August 3, 2012 at 7:18 pm

EVERYBODY READ THIS.

While I have been abstince for over 2 weeks, Ive been using daily.

60mg Zinc
B6 B12 Vitamins
E Vitamins
L-Arginine

These supplements help produce testosterone. Also I watch porn everyday while I massage my testicles for 30 minutes every morning right after I wake up, I don’t masturbate or touch my penis at all while at it. Testicle massage helps to keep the blood pumping and porn stimulates testosterone production.

2 weeks past and I feel like a Greek God, full of energy, full of confidence like I can punch a hole into anything, like a man should feel. This is not mind over matter, all this comes naturally to me, Ive been thinking of lifting wieghts to increase even more.

Women in work seems to be a lot more social to the point of flirting with me, without me even looking at them or saying hi or any of the basic communication, first week I was like.. WTF?

Guys, there is something behind this. Masturbation has a greater affect on our body more than we think, I used to do it daily couple of times and it was hard to stop but Ive made it far and I will never go back. The first days was painful, even in the 3th 4th day I was tired and grumpy, probably because all the juice was gathering up.

I can’t wait to find out how it will be in 2 months, I will probably feel heroic with full conviction, men all over the western world should be teached about this since Mastrubation is seen as a very healthy and good thing for mental and physical health, in my journey and expirence last 2 weeks, I say Bullshiiit. I wish I never learned to masturbate since it sunk me into laziness, killed my hunger for women and eventually put me into a more apathetic depressive state, not wanting to do anything but sit home and play video games.

Notice also, don’t drink much beer or eat stuff like grapefruits since it’s full of female hormons. If you can, lift weights.

I am very convinced you will feel diffrent and stronger, if not you should check your testosterone levels as it might be very low, but those suppliments can spice it up. Specially Zinc.

Majority of men don’t know the truth of mastrubation, that’s why men in the western world are becoming more feminine and so on, but that’s my theory.

I will keep following this forum.

Mattias August 3, 2012 at 7:38 pm

@ Jason Rocker… Great post. Are you taking the supplements in liquid form?
I massage my testicles but not frequently and definitely not for 30 min! I have read studies about that porn and testosterone thing. Seems legit. But by viewing porn, you are teaching your brain to release testosterone while looking at porn, not necessarily when being with a woman. Me, having an erection problem when with a woman (because 1. thinking too much and 2. need perversion to get rock hard cos of porn) want to teach my brain to signal to penis to get hard from just watching or touching a naked woman.

Ed August 3, 2012 at 9:25 pm

I am taking a few supplements, multi vitamins, glutamine, cod liver oil, d-aspartic acid which increases testosterone and luternizing hormone. In times gone by boys were punished for masterbation. While it may seem draconion today, there must have been some sense in why they did it.

Matt Savage August 5, 2012 at 8:52 pm

I’m strongly considering closing out the comments here. The discussion has really turned into a cesspool of stupid comments. It’s bad enough that most of the things talked about here falls into the “bro science” category, but now we got idiots throwing around racist bullshit and another idiot religious zealot… cut this shit out guys!

I’ve stated this before, but if you are going to post a comment, please make it insightful, useful or constructive. I’ve just deleted about 15 of the last comments that didn’t add anything to the conversation.

Priv August 5, 2012 at 9:16 pm

I hope that you keep it open Matt. For the most part this has been a terrific discussion and I have found it to be very helpful and supportive!
Lets keep it clean

James Gray August 5, 2012 at 9:33 pm

Matt plz keep it up it helped me out a lot

Trying To Be A Brahman August 5, 2012 at 9:41 pm

@matt savage
Hope we can all get down to reading some constructive post from some of the intelligent people on here like yourself.

Rave August 5, 2012 at 9:48 pm

Matt, since you have been experimenting with this topic for several years, have you experienced any change in personality, energy or confidence in general? And after finding that Your Brain On Porn website did you consider going through a whole 3 month reboot or did you stick with the 7 day theory? I would love to know your results and which method you use today as you are one of the pioneers of this whole theory.

Tanqueray August 6, 2012 at 12:05 am

I agree with the idea of abstaining from masturbating for a prolonged time, but at my age (19) I feel that the cycle should be shorter at say 5 days. For the college age group, your hormones are still raging and waiting a whole 7 days can be very hard with all the down time. I’ve also come to believe that masturbating without porn is a lot more rewarding and overall better for you. It may not be as fun but your nut will be twice as nice. Hope this insight is helpful!

Ed August 6, 2012 at 1:48 am

Thanks Matt for clarifying. For the most part this is a fairly constructive thread. Yesterday I went to a Sexpo in Brisbane, had an awesome time meet some great looking ladies. Have decided I want an iphone to pimp up my fb, I feel this is going to be very good for me to curb approach anxiety. I even had a chat with a few hot stripper girls, one I even told about this challenge. Occaisionally I tell girls about what I am doing and they don’t seem to respond adversely in anyway, keen to hear what other guys experiences have been from women when they told them about this experiment.

Tiger Tony August 6, 2012 at 4:02 am

Follow up my no fapping experience from my previous entry. NO fapping since Mid May.
I had to fab yesterday because over the week end I had sex with a wonderful girl but because of the circumstances I couldn’t come. It was 30 days since last time I had sex and I could feel I needed to, lets put it very crudely, “discharge”.
I did not use porn to FAP and thats a huge improvement. I thought about the girl.
In the 30 days I never had a wet dream, I assumed that my body would do that to release it self but it did not happen. What it did happen is that anytime I would hang out with a girl I liked and the more we flirted the more I got an erections and lost liquids real easily. Meaning not that I came but that I will loose liquids.
Anyway I had to FAP as I had what you call blue balls and I got worried about it.

For me I think I cannot stay for over a month without coming, somehow it hurts and I feel it ain’t healthy. Maybe after fapping all my life my body has lost the ability to have wet dreams.
FAPPING is not the answer, but having a relationship with a girl or more so you can take care regularly of your needs is the healthy answer.

Anon84 August 6, 2012 at 4:31 am

I am so glad i found this article.

I tried my abstinence a few ago, but only lasted 3 days, because I was still masturbating but trying to stop just before ejaculation. i went too far! lol

My next abstinence i went for 11 days! During those days, I still masturbated and like before stopped before ejaculation, but I over did it!

My current abstinence I only lasted a day. I am determined to get past 11 days, as the feeling I was feeling great. I was confident, could talk to women with ease and banter, stronger/more focused at the gym, interactions with women were much more positive and overall I felt awesome in my life.
From day 3 onwards my energy levels were up, i felt more relaxed and I also noticed I didn’t have morning glory as often.
Few side effects I had were that on one night I had insomnia and I also broke out with acne on my face. The spots are still recovering (I guess I’m prone to acne when test levels rise on day6/7).

I am pissed of with myself, that I let myself down on my current abstinence and only lasted one day. I need stronger willpower to cut the urge and to go again for more than 11 days.

For people who have abstained, did you find it better to stop masturbating altogether or still masturbate just not to the point of ejaculation?

I was doing the latter, because I thought that by masturbating I would signal my body to increase more hormones etc, but just don’t ejaculate, so the hormones re-circulate through my body. So far, I did the deed twice on saturday and twice today.

The feeling and postives of not masturbating that I have experienced, far outweigh to masturbate. I can’t believe I didn”t know about this sooner.

From today I am going to try not masturbate and see how this abstinence cycle goes. I will also go to the gym to get things kickstarted.
So from today, no porn and no masturbation, something which I did during my 11 days of abstinence. I am hoping this cycle goes better, because I am really missing the feeling I had!

JP August 6, 2012 at 4:38 am

Yeah, keep the thread open. Lots of great insights here. I will admit I did masturbate to some porn 3 days but I made sure not to orgasm. I was a little down at the time and I also kind of wanted to see how quickly it would take to get to an orgasm. There’s no way I’m breaking that streak.

The erection wasn’t as intesne as the visualisation wiht no masturbation about a week before that. No more porn ever again. I’d rather use my mind or a real life woman as a stimulator than a computer screen.

And to confirm what various people are saying — squats, deadlifts are definitely testesterone builders. You can actually feel it later on in the day in comparison to the days where you’re not doing those exercises. So is the sun. Feeding your testicles and the rest of your body with the sun is definitely a health boost.

Rave August 6, 2012 at 11:27 am

Has anyone experienced if you edge just a little bit to the point where precum comes out, you feel more wide awake and energized throughout the day? I believe someone mentioned it’s called a “stalin”.

Mattias August 6, 2012 at 3:43 pm

@ Rave. I’m sad to say it has the opposite effect on me. And even if it didn’t, I wouldn’t have the willpower to quit if I was excited to that degree.
Lesson: Don’t have a cyberchat friend on your messenger list. She will trigger you with her nasty talk… I found that out 2 days in a row. Starting over from scratch today, and going away on a trip Thursday and will have little opportunity to beat it then. On the other hand, since I’m saving up Monday-Wednesday, chances are good I will perform well if I happen to hook up on this vacation.

Ed August 7, 2012 at 2:25 am

This is clearly the longest I have gone without edging or watching porn. I have never been addicted to porn, so it hasn’t been an issue. Hopefully my hand has heeled and I can hit the gym this Thursday. Really looking forward to hitting the weights.

jerry August 7, 2012 at 12:38 pm

I shouldnt be judgemental but edging is playing with fire and in my opinion stupid if your on this path. I and others have said in length on this forum that edging leads to other things. You dont hear of anybody who comes off coke or heroin by supplementing with very small doses till they get “clean”

It’s so much easier going cold turkey because it leads to not having edging as an option. Ive done this with edging and without and back to edging again and now without and its a clear option to me not to seduce yourself back into the hands of the devil which in this case is your hands.

This is just like working out or any other thing that brings us out of our comfort zone. We go through some discomfort to reach a great reward in the end.

Ed August 7, 2012 at 5:15 pm

Edging makes it too difficult, you walk around horny as all hell. One of my posts describes how I had an emmission simply seeing a few girls at the gym while doing an exercise. It probably isn’t as bad as fap, as it isn’t draining.

jerry August 8, 2012 at 6:25 pm

It’s amazing how our bodies heal fast but still slow via the microwave mentality. I am a little over 2 weeks in and i had a fairly good day yesterday feeling great but then right back into anxiety, “doom thinking” and the fear of feeling trapped today. Thats the roller coaster everyone has been saying so im basing things more on time then how i feel from day to day until i know this storm has passed.

I still am flatlining (no libido) aka “dead penis” i can see some hot girls (went clubbing and got no action) normally i would wank it when i got home because i would have massive urges but no. I came home and just went straight to sleep no harm no foul. In AZ there are hot girls at every corner but this guy didnt care or stare.

Having no libido has its advantages for sure as theres less frustration and anxiety that is caused by sexual frustration itself but it dampers your motivation and creation comes from sexual energy and i dont feel like creating anything including my body that im in the process of sculpting.

Wolf August 8, 2012 at 9:06 pm

Jerry, look up and do Deer exercises. I stopped masturbating daily couple of months ago and now met a girl and I’m having regular awesome sex after an almost two-year drought. When I was a chronic masterbator, I wouldn’t have looked at this girl twice (she’s ok, but not my type), now I can’t wait to see her on the weekends and fuck her brains out. Last week I took her to an empty lot and fucked her in the back seat.
Even before I started having the real deal, the Deer exercises kept my fluids circulating through my organs and kept me sexually motivated. Give it a shot, and do them daily!

Anon84 August 9, 2012 at 3:38 pm

Day 4 update.

So far I am on on Day 4 and it’s going really well. I am not edging, no porn etc compared to last time.

I feel a lot better especially emotionally. I am looking for opportunities to talk with women and the motivation is definitely there. I am getting a better response from women and people in general. Looking forward to getting past Day 11 (previous record) and seeing the results.

I think it’s so much better not to edge etc. Better to channel the energy towards interactions with real women. I’ll keep my results posted …

Ed August 10, 2012 at 6:11 am

I really don’t think in anyway this is aimed at deadening one’s libido, far from it. It is simply an exercise in not becoming a slave to one’s libido. I can honestly say my relationships with women are far better, and they definetly pickup on that very fact. Most women gain an upperhand on a man’s weakness in controlling his libido, that is one of the single most powerful tools women have and a man’s most common weakness.

jerry August 10, 2012 at 5:04 pm

@Wolf

Thats awesome you found a partner you love having sex with continually. Are you able to last as long as you desire in bed with premature ejaculation?

Been looking at deer exercise its quite interesting. There is also a counterpoint that it actually does more harm then good since westerners tend to live sedentary lives and it further stresses the nerves etc.. in the anus which can be counter beneficial. Would love to hear your take on it and what has happened since you started doing it, input would be greatly appreciated.

@Ed

Not sure if your statements were directed at me. Low libido i find to be not good at all. Eastern medicine has many herbs which stimulate libido and keep the sexual organs functioning and thats a very important element from their beliefs in longevity and overall health. I was just saying its nice since im going through the withdrawals of having no libido that the frustration and desire to bed beautiful women and desire to get girls numbers has diminished so its like i have some clarity and focus when before i used to be a continually sexually frustrated guy who would bed a girl and get numbers but it was never enough i was never satisfied, it was a hunger that never got satiated.

Ed August 10, 2012 at 6:37 pm

No, not at all, I think PUA material may brainwash guys into chasing lots of notches. I think no fap, no porn increases libido in a subtle way, it can at first feel frustrating, once you can channel that energy it feels so much better. I am of the belief that quality is better than quantity.

jerry August 10, 2012 at 10:20 pm

I highly agree. I’ve had sex with a few good looking girls like double take head turners and i felt nothing for them except sex and got bored with them quickly but had sex with girls that wouldnt ego trip any guy and felt a great connection.

I am not at that stage yet i keep oscillating between quantity and quality and it depends on certain days how i feel but yeah I know in the end there will be a girl where sparks will fly.

i know my brain has lost this initial battle of getting me back on porn and masterbation. I know its now calling in its big guns as i felt some initial horny urges today it was just a shadow of whats to come and after reading so many posts i definetely have to prepare my fight and go in kicking and screaming.

This time around i have some preparations of transmutation and other things lined up for when the beast comes to laugh at my attempt and try to drag me back into the cave again.

Read so many posts from others in every arena of this porn addiction and testimonies, I have come across one that is pretty darn inspiring and i think will help keep you guys motivated, i think it will be good to read for when your having one of those downer days

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/age-23-metamorphosis-into-chick-magnet

Ed August 11, 2012 at 12:50 am

Very inspiring stuff, it would be awesome to make it to 90 days. If I can catch myself early it is a big help. I have been leaning towards getting an escort, not sure whether it would be a wise move now that I am getting near 40 days.

jerry August 11, 2012 at 4:59 pm

A girl at the drop of a hat. Last time i spent time with one it was an absolute blast. “girl friend experience” girls are the best i cannot do non GFE unless they have a great personality.

From a alot of reading it seems that if you get knocked into a pit of despair that that lasts for days then you havent cleared the addiction. If you just get some initial bad feelings and effects and then you settle back into your rebooted state then you have cleared the addiction that is the main distinction from what i can tell.

The best thing to do is not to ejaculate but that isnt always easy, new girl=more excitement.

Ed August 12, 2012 at 6:23 am

Day 40, aside from reading an erotic story on a forum and flirting on fb, no porn or fap. Approaching halfway through the challenge. I feel as though I have hit a small milestone, I really hope I can keep it up. Feel great. I will post and let you know how I go after tomorrow’s session at the gym.

Ed August 13, 2012 at 2:54 am

Had an awesome workout deadlifted 145kg 5×5, which is pretty much double my bodyweight and had a really good session at the gym, I feel incredible. It is a really good way to harness your energy on the big compound lifts.

Jason Rocker August 13, 2012 at 12:18 pm

Hello again guys.

Found another supplement that could sky rock the testo production.

D-Aspartate!

I have thrown Vitamin E out of my diet.

Now only.

Zinc 60mg ( The Best)

Vitamin B

D-Aspartate

Vitamin C

L Arginine

Been 3 weeks now, I feel like im going to explode but in damn good way! I don’t even dare to try out Horny Goat Weed.

Mattias August 13, 2012 at 3:03 pm

@ Jason Rocker! Thanks a bunch! I love short lists because you can totally waste your life micro-managing things.
My seventh day is coming up and I had several shining moments with women today. Mostly looks. I walked through a room like a boss effortlessly, as it just came natural.

My open question is, does anyone of you have experience from flatlining and beyond? What should I expect? My priority is not to “find myself” or have some “spiritual asexual awakening”. Instead, just to get rid of this perverted mind (that’s wearing off a bit) and get laid a lot before I freaking die! Knowing my sexdrive is there when I need it. This not-getting-it-up thing when I’m intimate is making me insecure, and that’s killing my performance even more.

jerry August 13, 2012 at 6:02 pm

@Ed Were you emotionally up and down through your transition ED and has it stopped yet since your on day 40. I’m feeling like dook and i keep roller coasting. Yesterday i felt amazing it lasted for awhile then i was dropped off the himalayan mountain into the pit of despair.

@Jason Rocker I went up and read a previous post of yours and I highly highly agree that men are becoming feminized and i truly believe its being done on purpose i get a little into the “underground” stuff. Feminizing men with all the xenoestrogens in virtually everything nowadays (environment, water, food, air) Testosterone boosters and estrogen blockers are almost going to be imperative at some point.

Many sitcoms potray the men as weak, the butt of the jokes and the woman the head of the household, smarter etc…
I saw that show the king of queens and i thought it was funny that “entitled” good looking woman is married to that fat, lazy dopey guy who has no money, ambitions and clearly annoys her.

It’s nice that your 3 weeks in im also 3 weeks in day 22
how have your moods been from the beginning till now.
I am still on the roller coaster ride but i get glimpses of what im capable of its pretty exciting.

@Mattias

Hey Mattias thats when i started this 22 days ago is when i brought a a good looking girl home she got sexual right away i was turned on but couldnt perform in bed. Zero activity downstairs it was fingering to completion so after i blew it by becoming a a little girl and getting emotional when i found out she was dating and there was another guy in the picture (we were apparently friends with benefits) and then writhing in endless crying fits i was like no more this is never going to happen again.

I’m day 22 and i am still flatlining. the last 2 days ive had little urges to look at women or fantasize it wasnt intense and i kept it under control for the most part, i feel sensations in my penis and get kinda erect but it seems shortlived and doesnt get max size.

In the beginning i was literally pushed into a blackhole of despair like i had no hope it was very dark and i had to go out in public and be around others for comfort.
Those urges are now under control but i still have no interest in women i can see a hot girl but i am not motivated like i was before to get her number or get a instadate. Before when i was masterbating i would approach virtually every hot girl i see but this flatline has really neutered me at the moment.

I’ve read from so many posts about flatlining it always goes away, the last post i read it took a month before he got mr winkie going again.

comeback August 13, 2012 at 7:21 pm

Anyone of you feel a burning sensation while you pee ?

I am on Day 11 ( personal best) of absolutely no masturbation/edging. I have experienced some amazing benefits ( which I will go into details in my next post) , but today for the first time, I felt discomfort. And not like blue ball discomfort ( which I felt on day 6-7) . This was more like frequent urination, burning sensation during peeing and it kept coming back every couple of hours like 2-3 times during the day.

I have gone 10 days before and never felt this way so was wondering if any of you guys had similar kind of discomfort.

Other things that could have possibly caused this –
1. I ate really spicy food last night
2.Had a really intense workout ( I finished off with an HIIT session)
3. Could you have been dehydration from the workout/humid weather ( although I drink a lot of water so I could easily rule this one out)

Any thoughts?

Ed August 14, 2012 at 6:19 am

Yeah I have experienced that sensation a few times, I attributed it to having dsparic acid and having a few more scoops than usual of a pre workout supplement. I have found I can feel aggressive at times. I am resisting the urge to get an escort as I am getting near Day 45 and have heard getting to Day 90 has some real benefit.

Anon84 August 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm

I am on day 8 at the moment and I have no urge to PMO.
I have had some days where I’ve had morning glories etc.

yesterday my emotions were really sky rocketing and I over reacted to certain situations! The effects of high test. I also had insomnia yesterday. I don’t feel tired yet though (8pm). I couldn’t sleep and emotions were high! I had the exact same thing in my last abstinence around the same time frame.

So far, i would say the 8 days have been easy compared to last time. I have not edged, looked at porn, masturbated etc. But have been channeling my energy and keeping busy with other activities. I have also noticed I am making more effort with the females.

Looking forward to at least reach Day 14

Mattias August 14, 2012 at 2:51 pm

Thanks for all the latest inputs. Man, I wish I were “simple” like guys on average seem to be. Sex seems to natural to everyone, and I feel I’m the only one missing out on the fun. I have no game! Cybering, internet hook-ups, infatuation. They’re all dead ends. I need the love connection but girls run scared if you look with wonder at their beauty. It’s just the way I am in the beginning. I totally fail at life. Last weekend I fell in love with an underage girl even though I know it’s another dead end. She is/was somewhat interested but a bit intimidated. Maybe I should just hand my life over to someone else and let them guide me. *sigh*
Day 8 is through. Lonely, horny, frustrated, aimless, despondent, brokenhearted. It’s not that I’m clingy but I want someone to come home to. Maybe going to the gym tomorrow will make me feel better.

Mattias August 14, 2012 at 2:54 pm

*sex seems to natural to everyone*

Mattias August 14, 2012 at 2:56 pm

sorry. got it wrong second time too…..

jerry August 14, 2012 at 7:19 pm

@Anon84- Mattias

The first week and a half for me was like being put on an island knowing i was going to be stranded with no more human contact for the rest of my life, no hope to escape, feeling deep down that happiness will never come to me. Horrible experience.

You and Me Mattias. I was there right where you are. The pain was so great i had to go out and talk to girls. It took me a pretty good amount of hours to get decent at it. One day your literally like “shit” im actually making some pretty good progress. Ive gotten lucky here and there it is alot of work, but when you have no outlet to release sexual tension i think its going to be awesome. Your going to become decent in conversation (your going to be pissed when failure happens and think what you could of said instead) so it naturally gets better and be prepared for alot of rejection which is okay. You will have the extra advantage of noFap which i didnt have when i was prowling the streets.

I would spend 2 hours everyday going out and literally finding opportunities to open random girls. It was a huge game and when i got sex from the girl i wouldnt be satisfied i would still be hungry. I would literally get sex be happy during the night then prowl the next day to see what i can get i think this is what the PUA’s go through a “hunting junkie”

Today after 3 weeks i decided to finally go out again this time a little more then several hours i wanted to see where the girls congregated, talked to about 6 girls and solidly number closed 2 with great conversations with very fun banter. (almost pulled 1 girl from the bookstore like before to my place)

Definetely noticed some new subtle but powerful details that never happened before when i was fapping.

jerry August 14, 2012 at 7:46 pm

@Mattias

Girls react differently depending on you mostly. If you come off like a nerd or other reject they are going to put you in that pile since our brains love to categorize you and they are going to respond based on programming. If you look at them like your hungry and you got it going on, then they are going to still give you at times the same look but this time you get to sort because some girls will react positively.

My problem in the beginning is that i couldnt think on the spot. I felt i needed scripts to memorize but always felt cheesy and weird not to mention the countless times where i forgot something in the script since i was nervous. You naturally get better in conversation by actively engaging in it. I used crutches like (palm reading, strawberry fields, fun psychic games,) added here and there to my arsenal find out what works what doesnt when to use what when and you learn. Have many broad topics and being able to think on your feet comes with experience. This noFap right here is your ticket to something amazing this alone is probably what you needed of course working on yourself (working out, learning skills, hobbies) is very good to do as well and will become quite essential when your not fapping and not getting sex all the time.

I swear i was retarded in conversation i have nothing in common with most men (dont know sports, no mechanics, dont know how to fix things, and didnt care to talk to them since they couldnt give me sex)
and women didnt look at me. It was quite mind numbing.

I wish i discovered this sooner ive read so many reports on 30 mostly 60 days up to 100 and its like a total metamorphosis, some being supposedly being “revenge of the nerds” looking or virgins

Ed August 14, 2012 at 10:30 pm

I kind of like the idea of using openers. I have only used one I could remember. Mystery Method seems a bit convuluted, I wish he would have a list of simple workable openners. I find if I have a good simple repertoire I can memorize it is so much more fun approaching.

jeremy August 15, 2012 at 10:09 pm

Situational openers are the best for me like i have a reason to talk to them comment on the environment act like im curious about everything. At bookstores i just ask the girl that im “drinking my water” “waiting for someone” and if we can chat. Mostly positive response.

Today i went out again probably spent 2 hours. Went to a outside mall and had mostly no luck the first time i pulled daytime was in the bookstore so i first went to the bookstore and then to the mall kind of walked back and forth (wasnt a big mall pretend im waiting for somebody keep looking at my phone so its not weird im just walking staring at things)

I was out specifically because i was waiting for a contractor to finish the job at the house so i can pay him, and he called me and said the work was finished, so i was like damn no solid numbers just flat conversation.
I decided to go to the bookstore again as it was on the way out and after walking around i saw in the corner of my eye a girl looking at housing stuff. I walked around and approached from the other side and pretended like i was interested in home improvement first talking saying “o there it is” so she didnt think i hung around for her (seen it alot where guys just hover around girls)
Commented on a book she was reading and to make a long story short she came home with me. This blew my world wide open i thought the first time was a fluke but pulling girls during the day is definetely possible and i embodied that finally today. What was less amazing but stil was good was i got this girls number and she agreed to hang out with me for me to call her she wasnt working so she says she just has to pick up her daughter and shes free. So those 2 and like 3 failed conversations this is definetely a good day and hopefully inspires ya’ll to whats possible.

The girl that i brought home i couldnt even have sex with. I had to throw it out there i had no condoms (even though i did) and she was like blah blah not doing it which was fine because she was dry humping me and i had so much sexual energy and tension down below i almost blew it. Not taking that chance. I actually enjoy kissing more and touching but more so now it seems without PMO. Girls definetely react differently.

Hunting is fun as hell but time consuming.

Rave August 16, 2012 at 1:51 am

@Jerry

Excellent posts Jerry. Can you further explain the detailed benefits you noticed by nofap in your pick up?

Ed August 16, 2012 at 5:08 am

I am getting near the halfway mark, I think I need some support guys. Tomorrow will be Day 45, while I haven’t looked at porn I have read a few stories. I am still holding strong, had probably my third nocturnal, which helps a bit. I am going to do some weights tonights, so that should help.

jerry August 16, 2012 at 12:02 pm

I have been out doing the same thing at least a dozen times.
I took a break so no approaching i was itching bad, and saw opportunities here and there and went strong till 3 weeks in which i posted above.

-I still have the nervousness in the beginning so that hasnt changed that i can tell to mention so the first ones are still the hardest, you feel fake weird etc…
- I noticed i still do stupid interactions where it just fizzles and dies, although i have had alot less where the girl was rude, pretended i didnt exist, etc… and i know this because i log everything for personal progress.
-I do feel more like the man and dominant (so i care a bit less during interactions, females before hardely ask me questions back which shows interest i have noticed greater frequency of questions and intrigue)
-Girls are more enthusiastic
-ALOT more intrigued looks, and i can sense alot of the times if the girl is interested or not.
-I have had ALOT more luck in shorter time i really believe my intuition is tuning up or something as i have my intentions and i have strong desire to pursue and a strong desire not to, and i have noticed alot of the times the girl is getting into her boyfriends car, going into a female store, or meets up with friends shortly after i see her walking alone when i get the desire not to. It’s like (approach this one, nah forget that one, okay this one you want to go for, etc)
-A strange thing too i noticed a lot of men i can tell were in a “lower frequency state” its like i can sense that these men masterbate, or have serious problems in their lives, it was so evident to me. I noticed another poster saying the same thing like you are the observer and your a part of the matrix like neo.

The girl that i brought to my place yesterday, she never did anything like this before, and i got her phone number in 10 minutes, called her in 40 minutes (contractor still wasnt off the property so i had to wait for him to leave) and we met up at target, i immediately got out of her car and sat in hers, then we quickly went to drive to a taco place in the drive thru (she wanted a soda) i think it was like 15 minutes we drove back to my car and i told her i give great massages (i do touching in various ways before so she gets used to touch touching palms, touching her arms if she has jewelry and asking questions, i saw something dangling from the keys that touched her leg so i asked about it while i grazed her leg with the back of my hand (oops!)

I have a routine down, its pretty easy when you get less in your head because you consciously have to think (okay i do this, now i do this) in the beginning

I led everything and my vibe was that this was completely natural.

I got inspired by a guy who did day game on a forum site. He was the only one that attempted it and did same day lays he averaged 1 out of 11 girls in liberal califonia. I’m in a very conservative state (i believe local mindset and openness helps alot) and i posted my results on there ( i really wish others did it as well, learn from each other o well) which for the most part wasnt that great and i never pulled a girl back to my place (almost pulled 2 but i fumbled)

so the progress ive made lately from no PMO in 3 weeks have been outstanding for game. I have also had interest in talking to men which i cant remember when i was actually interested in talking to guys, i had a few conversations (i know its alot!)

oh during the heated moments with her, i couldnt get it up even though i was horny in the moments i still have limp dick…

my libido is still gone as of this morning.

Some other effects ive noticed is random great insights,
and possibilities for my intentions like i have a money goal and ive had a ton of great ideas just pop into my head at random times truly inspired ideas which hardely ever came before before PMO and in greater frequency.

I have noticed other things as well but i want to make sure of them before i mention it here.

jerry August 16, 2012 at 12:44 pm

@ED

I meant to say ED in my above post not PE although i almost did bust, still getting it up is nearly impossible. Thanks ED for giving me that insight lol.

The 2 greatest motivators is pain from the past and what will happen if you fail, and the rewards that are just within grasp.

You would accomplish what few do on this journey and prove to yourself what is achievable in your life.

I went through the greatest hole in my heart anguish from that girl leaving me and felt like a weak failure cry baby and was tired of PE. It’s a huge motivator. Reading on success posts and then reading up on how you were in the beginning and seeing yourself in this new light of being able to become illuminated in every sense of your being should be a huge motivator.

It’s up to you whether 30 seconds of massive pleasure is worth weeks of pain, suffering and regret.

warrior August 16, 2012 at 3:06 pm

@ED

45 days is great result man and you shoud keep the momentum going and keep on you mind what the goal really is!Dont make your gole just 90 days try to transform yourself as a man,to become a man who dont need and dont miss porn and masterbating at all after 90 days and the rest of your lifetime!Tomorrow will be 170 days without any of that shit in my life and i dont miss it at all .My libido is great and energy that is at my disposal is really mind boggling.

Ed August 16, 2012 at 5:44 pm

Thanks guys, 170 days is incredible. I gather you are having more successful approaches and getting much better feedback as a result.

anon84 August 17, 2012 at 5:31 am

I’m on Day 11 at the moment and currently matching my personal record.
I have found that, giving up porn, no edging etc. has made a massive difference to this cycle of abstinence.
I have flat lined emotionally recently, I got really down, I got agitated and angry in class with my tutor and we sort of had an argument. I took something she said the wrong way and got angry. I later apologised to her and told her why (difficulty in the past) I took what she said the wrong way. In a way, I did hurt her, because I could see it in her eyes.
I’m really hating the emotional flat line side to this, can posters tell me, if this will get better with time? Because I think, in the past, I use to PO and the dopamine release use to mask my emotional baggage and now when certain emotions arise, I have to learn to handle them.
My approach to tackle the flatline (emotional) is to take a breather, step outside the situation and smile/laugh about it, depending on what it is. Sometimes I still think about the situation with my tutor and I’m not happy with the way I acted, and it only makes me more motivated to keep going till how many every days it takes me stop PMO, as long as it helps me tackle this emotional problem.

On the other side, I’ve been making better eye contact with women and I am not afraid to look around the room (when it’s full of people) initiate eye contact and most importantly SMILE. I feel confident enough to smile at people in general, not only just women.

I’m also feeling and lot more attracted to girls who don’t wear alot of make up etc. I always thought that a girl should resemble a porn star and then she’s super hot. But now, NO. I don’t feel much physical attraction to girls who wear lots of make up.
Also, I have started to talk to people more in general. My anxiety levels are going down little by little everyday. Yesterday, I was in the library and felt relaxed talking to the library assistant there. Normally, I would just get the help I want and then go, but this time, I felt more relaxed, not in a hurry or anything and she was super helpful and also helped me get a better membership discount.
While I was looking at the information she gave me, there was a girl who was sitting opposite me. I could feel it in myself, that I should open her and talk to her, I mean we were sharing the same table. I did sort of hesitate a little and thought what can i say? And then my NEW voice shinned through. I opened with ‘Excuse me’ Lol. After that saying that, I know there would be no turning back, I would have to follow it up with something and I did.
We chatted for a while. I didn’t get a number, name etc. But I’m happy that opened and talked with the girl. I wasn’t after anything from her, I just wanted to talk and it felt good. Because the old me, would have just sat there in awkwardness and then later regretted not saying anything.

Also I have got more energy levels and drive. I’m using this energy to get things done, study, talk with people and just being productive in general. Yesterday I was reading lots and lots of testimonials on reddit, and using the energy I have to motivate myself and remind me exactly why I am doing this.

At the moment, I can’t wait to keep on going, because the benefits so far are awesome and from reading what other people have gone through upto and past day 11, things will get better. The emotional/sexual flatline will come, and it’ll be up to me how I handle it. How I handle it, will only make me better in the future and become the man that I want to be.

I have also been doing meditation for the past two days, and that has helped get some bad emotions out of me that were masked by the dopamine release during MO, so all in all it’s getting better.
Also, yesterday I found out that I might have a bit of brain fog, when sometimes I can’t concentrate, wrong words come out when I speak and it’s affected me in my classes, a place where I want to succeed, and couldn’t believe how much it affected me. And since I’m really motivated to do well in class, I’m using this to help me get through the days and also make sure my performance and concentration in class improves dramatically. Because before I was giving 100% with brain for and now I will be giving even more effort than I currently give, I just don’t know how much, because I don’t know how much the brain fog has been holding me back from my potential.

@ ED – Don’t worry about relapsing etc. Think about your long term goals and read testimonials from people who have done more than 45 days and use them to inspire you to keep going forward and achieving your goal. I’m on Day 11 and wish the days could go by faster! I will post my next update after the weekend!

Keep it up guys!

Ed August 17, 2012 at 7:58 am

A couple of times I have been chatting to a women when she has had her legs spread, and have deliberately avoided looking at her. I think they have picked up on that.

Ed August 17, 2012 at 11:38 am

I hope that didn’t come out wrong, what I meant was they were incidentally doing this.

Tiger Tony August 20, 2012 at 9:45 am

ED > you should look at them and let them catch you doing that! thats called flirting and been attractive on both sides! nothing to be ashamed.

jerry August 20, 2012 at 11:35 am

@Ed

We are all men here and we love sex. I would look as well like tony said to build tension. If you look them up and down its sexual tension they “get it”

Thats one thing i havent noticed was spreading of legs, thats interesting though. I have definetely noticed hungry eyes or its like a message of understanding is transferring from her to me and vice versa and we both understand the message through our eyes.

I have had girls stare at me that was very unusual before PMO.
So many instances where our eyes would meet and it was like tension building but they werent scared i would purposely go by them for some reason other then them to see how they react.

Ed August 20, 2012 at 10:27 pm

Day 49, so heading closer, although I am aiming to keep no fapping for good. I would like to see some light at the end of the tunnel as far as dipping the wick goes. I am doing a bit of meditation from time to time which helps. There must be instances such as the military or in war time where guys go for a long dry spell. How would men in prison be managed in regards to this?

OneOfThoseDudes August 21, 2012 at 10:52 pm

Hey man, great writing and thanks for putting this info together. It’s something I’ve considered being true for some time now and have been searching for an article or some studies to back up my hunch. I’m currently on day 5. I totally agree with what you’ve said. With each day I feel an almost magical increasing wave of confidence come over me. I swear I seem more charming to people in general, men and women. Girls seem to hold eye contact just a second longer than they normally would. It makes me wonder if I’m giving off some kind of more potent pheromone or something. Also, and this sounds like bullshit, but I swear my muscles are even pumping up and holding bulk more than they normally do. I exercise regularly but since not jerkin’ it, it feels and looks in the mirror like I’ve been shooting roids or something. Long explanation to simply say that 1) I really do believe there is something to this, 2) I wish these damn scientists would study this more and 3) thanks man for putting this up and getting this discussion going. It really validates my suspicions.

Anon84 August 22, 2012 at 6:48 am

I’m currently on Day 16 of abstinence. No edging etc.

I’m generally feeling a lot better emotionally and physically. I haven’t had an emotional flat line the past few days although my mood can sometimes change. When I’ve gotten upset over the past few days, I am handling a lot better than last week, so I guess my emotions are balancing themselves out.

Libido has been so far, on and off. Although I have notice that the morning wood are much more fuller than before PMO, but still not 100% hard as they use to be. This will get better with time.

Everyday now, is a new record for me. I don’t ever want to go back and watch porn on my own accord. I’ve been reading ex-porn star testimonials and now I’ve been put off porn. Because it has been messing my brain up.

I haven’t had strong urges through out the day to masturbate, but the strongest urge comes first thing in the morning for me. All I need to do is get out of bed and then I’m fine. Like other people, I find myself to have a lot more time to do things and also I’m becoming a lot more productive. Overall energy has increased and I can’t see myself MO anymore. It’s not worth losing this drive and energy that I have at the moment over a 1 minute wank.

Eye contact with the girls is getting better, some girls are now smiling and I smile back and also I’m able to hold eye contact better without having the feeling that I was starring. Also my confidence is there when I talk to people, I beginning to like the way I talk now and also when I speak, I speak with less doubt in my mind, which has also help reduce the anxiety. If there is a girl by me, I feel an urge to talk to her and genuinely want to get to know her, not just sleep with her etc.
Before PMO I use to hesitate and get anxiety with how I can ‘open’ and talk to girls. By Day 16, now I use a simple ‘Excuse me’ to open girls and then take it from there. I don’t really think what to say, but I go with the flow of the conversation. I guess 1 minute is better than not opening at all etc.

After reading a few more blog entries and other forum sites etc. I guess without the PMO it helps bring out the real you and you’re not afraid to show it and offer yourself to the world. And for sure, my shyness is reducing as well.

Whatever day everybody is on at the moment, keep it going and don’t give in to the urges etc. Keep the reboot up

Ed August 23, 2012 at 7:20 am

Overall this is working out rather well, today I had killer eye contact with a girl at uni, amazing. Have notised myself getting random boners when a chick goes by a few times. One women at the tanning salon last week gave me wood just from talking to her. She is someone I talk to fairly often. I think once you get the addiction to porn or fapping out of your system, you develop an aura about you. Initially sexual frustration may set in, once you can control yourself, you develop a greater sense of self.

Ed August 26, 2012 at 3:14 am

Closing in on 60 days, day 55. Meet a Porn star in real life about a month ago and have been flirting on facebook. Not sure if we will meet up or not. I got my photo taken with her and felt like there was a bit of a connection there. Just a bit of playful flirting at the moment.

Ryan August 28, 2012 at 8:10 am

This blog is great. I’ve been reading it for months and I’ve been doing this experiment a couple of times. The farthest I got was 52 days but that was still with some degree of edging. Edging ruined most of my attempts. This time I’m way more serious about. Now for me no more edging whatsoever. Today is day 14. Yesterday I felt pretty powerful, so let’s see what today brings…

Geoffrey August 28, 2012 at 9:21 pm

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dee August 29, 2012 at 1:34 am

I have an incredibly hot girlfriend whom i have sex with 4 times a week. BUT, i need me some internet porn every night. normal?

Ed August 29, 2012 at 2:14 am

Day 58, closing in on 60 days, came very close a few minutes ago. Going to gym tommorrow night so that will help. Had a few nocturnals, one last night. The only porn I really watch is femdom kink type stuff, nothing really hardcore, no nudity involved. Been watching a bit lately not a great deal. So far resisted getting an escort although I maybe seeing someone soon.

Mattias August 30, 2012 at 4:22 am

Man, you guys can persevere! Unemployment has gotten me down and isolated. The lack of motivation to work out at the gym has resulted in me getting release through porn instead. Like, almost daily. It takes its toll in terms of a general weakness and outbreaks of acne. I had 7 zits in my face today when normally I have zero. Going for at least a week of abstinence now.

Ed August 30, 2012 at 7:20 am

Tomorrow is Day 60, have started to lapse a little, haven’t gone as far as edging. Once I am over the 60 day mark I should get a new lease of life. Have got so much to keep me busy, always something to keep me occuppied. Curious to know what are the benefits from Day 60-90, as I kind of need that extra incentive.

Rasko Eel August 30, 2012 at 8:18 am

Since I read this article, porn or any other relation that gets me to masturbate has quited for like 99% to me now! I feel a lot better about it. However there is a slight problem that sometimes occur to me… ”Nocturnal emission”, also known as wet dreams. This happens sometimes and it lightly irritates me. I sometimes can’t reach the 7 days abstinence because of it..

Once you get the hang of it to stay away from porn, it’s actually very easy. It is all in your own mind, nothing more. Funny though, there was this 1 time I reached like day 10 -14 (didn’t know exact) and there was this girl who just said to me I looked amazing and things. We even kissed! So staying abstinence maybe actually does help! I also feel a lot better the longer I do not release. However, it sounds obvious you release when you have a NE, but does it ”set the counter to 1” from abstinence?

Now are there more guys who have this? Does a NE even count as a ”release” for those 7 days? How do you guys think about it? And is there some kind of way to prevent them? Furthermore, in the time I stayed abstinence I never edged or something.

@Ed , 60 days is a pretty long time! Respect! I would like to achieve that to. You never had any NE?

Mattias August 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

@ Jerry. A late thanks for the replies. A girl in my apartment building gave me looks the other day so I talked for a few minutes about her dog. I was in a good, relaxed mood so I could easily have asked for her number, but odds are good that I will run into her again soon. There were features about her face I didn’t like but she’s a rung on the ladder, so to speak.

I’m cleaning up my act currently: doing big changes to the apartment, finally taking the driver’s license, taking guitar and singing lessons, maybe joining a band, applying for trainee jobs as an electrician. I’m a late bloomer. Still weighing options about what kind of girl to settle for: either someone vanilla here in Sweden, or the kinky one in USA. I’m planning on making a trip there by Christmas.

Day 2…

Mattias August 30, 2012 at 2:06 pm

@ Jerry. This –> “Commented on a book she was reading and to make a long story short she came home with me.” I have no trouble opening up conversations, but I pretty much suck on the follow up. There’s a short space of flow to the conversation, then it drops. How on earth did you go from commenting on a book to bringing her home? This is my biggest issue; reading her body language, keep her interested, knowing which steps to take. Should I just focus on getting her number and not on getting her home?

Ed August 30, 2012 at 5:33 pm

Have a good feeling I know which book, and it is not vanilla. All the forums on this conclude that NE is natural, so it doesn’t count. Kink seems to be something which is coming into the mainstream and one of the common themes is also male chastity.

Tiger Tony August 31, 2012 at 5:19 am

So guys I have not watch porn or fappen since end of may.
3 months. My sexual life has turned around completely. I can’t just help myself picking girls up. Your body or biology pushes you to it when you don’t fap. Fapping took one of the best part of life from me. I used to fap miserably everyday and that took care of my sexual needs in a sad and lonely way! Now I am getting so much action I am just having a blast. I lasted 1 months without sex or fapping on the first month then I learned real quick how to seduce girls and now I am getting together with girls at least twice a week. So much fun and way way better than fapping!!!!!!!!!

Ryan August 31, 2012 at 6:34 am

Tell us the secret, Tony!

Tiger Tony August 31, 2012 at 8:15 am

Ryan, no secret. Its just an urge to “come” and have “sex”. When you fap you repress it by taking care of it by yourself. If you can’t do that then you are driven to find someone else to do that for you. Fapping makes you tired and not active. Now I can hang around till very late at night with girls, were as before I’ll fap and go to bed tired!
Plus I became more fun and talkative because I realized that this makes me more attractive to girls and so on….my nature and urges are fixing by themselves some social awakwardness I had, all this out of the urge to “come”.

jerry August 31, 2012 at 11:10 pm

So good to hear from you guys and seeing where everybody is at. Ed amazing stuff man.

No Nocturnal emissions do not start you over ive read so much information on that including in the forums your brain on porn and some of the creators of the website responded saying there is nothing to fear.

@Mattias

I was a fan of this guy named dbot who did an experiment on the sosuave forums that he could bring home girls consistently during the day. He had a ratio of 1 out of every 11 after approaching 100 women who he said were 9′s and above. he had a script on there that he used which i used in the beginning then threw out later on. Nobody tried his experiment so i literally was going off what 1 person had claimed he had done on the INTERNET….. I tried to build a buzz with my failed attempts and trying to inspire others to try it with me but no one wanted to :/ I had my own experiment that i posted on there trying his exact thing i came close 2 times it didnt happen though.

One day it just happened and it blew my world apart its so much of a rise for a good looking girl to trust you fast and come home with you without much effort. (its alot of effort though to find that particular kind of girl)

One of the girls i brought home was reading a magazine. She was waiting for a guy who didnt show up. She met him online and they were supposed to go out but he never showed (she told me this later) i just started making jokes and commenting on what she was reading (pretending i was reading my mag right next to her to show i was interested but not fully invested in her) I asked her to move from the chairs right next to the magazine rack to the starbucks that is attached to barnes and nobles and she came. I just had some water and we talked and then i told her to come back to my place. She was already ready to come home with me a lot earlier but i was too scared to blow it too early so i built rapport for a little (i always ask if they drink and that i have drinks at my place and they should come over)

If a girl is coming over to your place the drinks is the excuse she knows she is coming over to have sex.

The girls that i notice that come home with me are either bored, jobless at the moment, highly sexed, nymphos, or just moved into the area. Some joke that im going to kill them or rape them etc.. i figured out since girls love sex like men in their brains its so fast whats happening that they bring out the fear it comes up so they release tension and steam, but the adrenaline high they are experiencing is a huge thrill to them.

The last girl that i brought home very quickly im actually dating now and she loves me so much it is awe inspiring on whats possible. It turns out we have so much in common and it happened like clockwork. It took awhile for me to get to this place after i was able to get the first girl home the subsequent ones were much easier my reality became it was possible i just gotta find the right one. Boldness is rewarded.

Oh just so you guys know too i was looking for the buzz and the high of being able to bring a girl home. I couldnt even get an erection from these girls i was physically attracted to them but i have ED issues. I ended up kissing alot, feeling them up and fingering them. What i never expected is one of the girls i took home im actually dating now and we have so much in common. Boldness is rewarded.

Ed September 1, 2012 at 4:57 am

Thanks Jerry awesome post, Day 61 and today I was so horny it was rediculous, I was ready to get an escort went out with that as my mission. Had no luck getting one on the payphones, tryed 3 times, it was like something or someone was trying to prevent me from doing it. It has happened to me before. Anyway had nice chat with a gorgeous female bodybuilder, she looked very femine and I told her and a cute girl from Hong Kong. Had an amazing workout tonight, squated 97kg 6 times. Yeah, I am still hanging in there, I would love to know that guy’s script.

Rave September 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm

@Ed

Have you edged at all during your 2 month streak? And if so, does the benefits of nofap still have the same effect? I’m currently at 2 weeks and accidentally edged last night so i’m wondering if I that should be considered a relapse.

Ed September 1, 2012 at 6:20 pm

No I haven’t edged, although got pretty close. No edging while not ideal is not lapsing. Emotionally I feel more determined and won’t put up with crap the same.

Ed September 3, 2012 at 6:44 am

Day 63 feeling as horny as hell. Went to the gym and the hot cleaner I flirted with was hanging off me while I worked out for a short time, the gym was full of bloke too. I was deep in concentration. Went to the supermarket and was about to approach this gorgeous thing in dark black stockings, she kind of went past almost sensing how I go nuts over women in stockings. Went to the self service and told the checkout girl who was wearing her hair out how sexy she looked. I could see her chatting to the other girl working there. I really enjoy flirting without worrying about the income, felt really spontaneous today.

Trying To Be A Brahman September 4, 2012 at 3:49 am

@Ed
Congratulation so far for keeping up the 63 days of abstinence.
Before you even think about escorts or giving into some sort of out let.
Ed please try and think why you were doing this in the first place,

Think of how far you’ve got from abstaining, and think of all the benifits you’ve received

I know its hard abstaining from sexual thoughts when you live in a world where sex is marketed. The moment you learn to protect and not squander your semen is the moment you can call yourself a free man from the negative side effects of self abuse Mastibation and you’ll find a peace of mind.

Have you notice your more of a babe magnet now, the girls all pay you way more attention than they ever did before
have you had any dates lately

And are your energy levels still high

How do you feel about your conentration, notice you can concentrate a lot more on your goals in my life / including studying for uni

Ed the real abstinence not for the sake of sex, is not thinking about it; that’s where the real “not-masturbating”is.

Ed did you know our worst times is when the mind isn’t engaged into doing anything, or just before getting out of the bed with a morning wood or getting ready for bed or laying down in bed unfocused, especially when the mind is at idle mode. I mostly sleep downstairs where its a little Unconfortable, and so what, I’d rather sacrifice my sleep In order to maintain or keep my MAN JUICE, good luck on this up hill battle, which I dread myself losing in having to restart all over again.

And check this out, I dear not even think about Nocturnal Emissions if I’m serious and conscious about what I’m doing in my dreams, so remember why you are carrying this abstinence, and as for me I’m not turning back I feel greater then I’ve ever been.

PS

Don’t forget, you must remenber the art of rechannelling that energy, and draw this energy back up inside your body. Don’t allow this energy to fall back down into the genital area through being turned on by the site of a Hot Chick, that’s if you want to last it out,, and the last thing you don’t want to do, is allow this energy to circulate around your genital area for long periods of time causing you fustration, and not realising that this energy, which is to be usefull for a creative mind or for helping you to solve a situation or problem when they arise. The thing is Ed this precious energy is only looking for somewhere to escape either through sex, Nocturnal Emission, or from jerking off.
Good luck and try and hang on, but believe you me you will see these results.

Ed September 4, 2012 at 7:10 am

Thanks I really appreciate your kind words of support. Have to admit I am feeling pretty awesome too. Physically I am feeling very strongs, looking pretty buff. Haven’t had any dates, I really haven’t had much opportunity other than making cold approaches. Not putting a great deal of emphasis on it, if I see someone I am attracted to, I will flirt like crazy, that is about it. I flirt a bit on facebook and have tonnes of hotwomen on my friends list, and consistantly there have been lots. I am fairly well known in my area and the ladies check me out a lot, even though most are much younger.

Ed September 7, 2012 at 7:16 am

Day 67, can’t believe I have made it this far. At times it can be a bit hard going I will admit that. Have been really busy, still about to go to escort, the strange thing is something gets in the way it is almost inexplicable. I do seem to have hotter women gravitating in my direction a lot of the time. It is kind of like they sense something. Have heard people say this releases a type of pheromone. I am continuing to get stronger with my workouts and feel this is sort of like a fountain of youth.

Mattias September 7, 2012 at 3:33 pm

If I ever reach 60 days it would be the first time post-puberty. My 6th day is coming to an end. Looked at a little xxx today so I’m somewhat disappointed in myself, but I blame it on being sick for a week (i.e. bored).

Someone somewhere had a theory that overdone masturbation might cause hair loss in men who are predisposed for that. While testosterone is low right after ejaculation there was this counter-chemical that was 10 times as potent as testosterone, releasing heat. After sex your sweat cools your body. After masturbation the heat goes to the head instead, killing the roots of your hairs. That’s the theory.

And I read a post here a while back. Some guy claiming his hair was growing back. I wonders if there can be some truth to the aforementioned theory.

comeback September 8, 2012 at 7:15 pm

@Mattias – I definitely believe excessive masturbation causes hairloss. It may not happen immediately but over a period of time when your body’s energy resources get depleted, you begin to lose hair. It’s hard to prove it, but when I go few days without masturbation, I feel my hair is stronger, like when I shower, I don’t see losing that many hair than say after a wanking a few times in a day. I also remember when I was in teens, my scalp used to feel itchy after frequent masturbation.

I am not sure if hair can be restored back from abstaining because some hair cells might already be dead but I believe it’s possible. It’s an interesting experiment to try because there’s no public info on masturbation addicts with hair loss problems who have abstained completely.

Personally I noticed something interesting once I started abstaining. I developed thicker chest hair, had nose hair for the first time and my pubes have started growing thicker and faster than before. And I am 31 so it’s a little late to be grow more hair in those areas now but it has happened. Havent seen much different in hair on my head so far but I am optimistic it could happen at some point of time.

Last but not the least – when I was growing up, baldness was associated with old people. But nowadays, I look around and it’s so common among the younger generation. Like the other when I was going to work, I noticed almost all the guys in the subway were in some stage of hairloss/baldness. I do believe it’s because of social acceptance ( and even encouragement) of excessive masturbation and porn that has led to this. Ofcourse unhealthy lifestyle and diet also has some role to play in this, but I believe it’s all linked together in some way.

Mattias September 9, 2012 at 3:51 am

Thanks for the comeback, comeback. I’m slim and a few gym sessions away from a visible sixpack. Recently I changed my diet from less than 50% raw veggy food to about 90% of that, and it does wonders on the complexion. I still worry too much but don’t stress a whole a lot. So I have the health covered.

I’m four years older than you, comeback, and my chest hair is starting to spread like wildfire. Not so much due to this no-masturbation experiment though. In periods when I am worriless, outgoing and fearless my chest and the back of my hands start itching and hair growth is activated. Hairy men (like Sean Connery) seem to get bald earlier, so I’m not sure this new growth is beneficial…

PS. Nose and ear hair is a sign of aging. DS.

Ed September 9, 2012 at 4:53 am

Day 69 a day shy of 70 days. Really learning to suck it in when I get strong urges. I really think I can make it to Day 90, if I have to go to an escort so be it, I still haven’t surcumbed, if I can go to Day 90 without all the better.

Trying to be a Brahman September 9, 2012 at 7:54 am

@ Ed don’t forget, we’re here to encourage one another and don’t forget to read my last post as for a reminder, rechannal that energy, get up early if you can in the morning and dont give your woody any chance to frustrate you whilst in bed, and stay occupied, stay strong Ed I’m struggling myself, but I will not sacrifice all those good Benifits I’ve been getting for a moments bit of pleasure I know sooner or later I might give in , but. It for now and I’m desperate to keep all my great good benifits. Ed I’m practically high on testosterone and a feeling of well being.

warrior September 9, 2012 at 11:05 am

@Mattias
About the hair loss,it is truth.I started lo lose hair in october last year and it was pretty bad.I am on day 193 today no porn and masturbation and i have much better hair now.Also i like i said before i had some pretty bad nose bleeds for last 2 years or so and they are gone to.Its no way i am going back to masterbating on porn ever again!

Ed September 9, 2012 at 6:48 pm

Had about 3 or 4 nocturnals in the last two months, this morning was one of them. Day 70, I think they make it easier. I would never go back to fap, that is for sure.

Mattias September 13, 2012 at 12:47 pm

@ Ed. You guys with nocturnals… I have had that once in my life and even then I wasn’t sure.

I’m on day 12. Day 8 I was cocky and energetic, then been pretty depressed mon-thurs for various reasons. No nocturnals, no morning wood. I have some sort of horniness but it could also be frustration over my life situation. I check girls out a lot but never get hard. I’m isolated and lonely right now so that’s bringing me down. Gymmed for 4 days straight. Gaining muscle mass, losing the little fat I had because of my new high veggy diet (sixpack is starting to show).

comeback September 13, 2012 at 8:28 pm

@Mattias – How do you gain muscle on a mostly veggie diet?

Brandon Lee September 14, 2012 at 3:35 am

Do you think diffrently if you try this theory? (For Example) Would the world around you change in a more confident way/ would your thinking ability improve/ or the world would simply be a better place (In a spiritual way- for religious people – no of fence )

comeback September 14, 2012 at 5:16 am

@Brandon – I do think differently. Although the max I have gone is only 17 days, my thinking was more confident and I was more in control of my goals.

The craziest part is that fitness has always been my no 1 goal for the last 15 years but I have nothing to show for it. For some reason, I could never be successful at that goal. I would go for a week and then lose focus. But during my most successful abstinence period last month, I went to the gym 26 days in a row getting up at 530AM ! It’s something that I was never able to do, even when I was in my teens. And I didn’t even feel like I had to push myself. I was just so positive,confident and full of energy that I used to wake up 10 minutes before my alarm went off.

So yes I do feel abstinence changes your thinking. I feel it give you more energy ( both mental and physical), makes you think practically towards your goals, makes you ACT towards your goals than just overanalyze.

It’s 6 AM now so I have to hit the gym :) But I will elaborate more on how this has changed my life and how I was a mess when I was a masturbation addict.

Mattias September 14, 2012 at 8:08 am

@ comeback. Nice testimony there. We need those!
Maybe I’m more positive than I give myself credit for. Someone else being friendless and unemployed might have caved in, maybe this abstinence keeps me going. This will be my 5th day in a row at the gym and yes I have gained a little weight this week while my muscles are more pronounced.
I eat about half the meat per day that I used to. Instead I eat a bunch of raw fruit, vegetables (esp. spinach) and nuts/seeds. The wishful thinking was to go 100% veggie but I read about loss of libido and the protein issue so I settled for 90%. Despite my depression I managed to apply for a handful of jobs yesterday. Psyched! Day 13.

Brandon Lee September 14, 2012 at 11:21 am

@Comeback Thanks for the insite.

Ed September 15, 2012 at 8:18 am

Day 76 and I feel phenominal, resisted a bit of temptation. Had the most incredible workout on a pre-workout called Craze, OMG. Made some quite spontaneous approaches, my only problem is not staying in set. Yeah the interest level is there. Getting on top of my study as I have a few weeks break. Never been a porn addict, I do on occaissions check some mild BDSM stuff out, which I have under control.

idontwannawackit September 16, 2012 at 9:26 am

Hello everyone.

Ed, bro you’re amazing and my hero for how long you’ve lasted!!!!!!!

Starting wednesday I lasted until Sunday. What can I say I edged too much like a jackass and gave in. But even during those THREE days I noticed an improvement in my desire to work out and be more positive!!! I started college friday and was only two days into it and I opened on two girls in my class. But who knows, that could’ve been simply because it was my first day (you know how first days go :P) Reading these posts have definitely made me more determined to give it all I have. In the past I have lasted 2 weeks but gave in.

Really, guys, we shouldn’t need to post on here everyday, WE ARE MEN!!!! That is my true motivator. If I ever get the urge that is my first thought “If I can’t commit to something as simple as this, well what CAN I commit too!?” It is our job as men to be dominant and accomplish our goals no matter what the cost.

I understand though some of us need this extra motivation (including myself) to commit to this. It is hard especially when you don’t have much to do. i moved to a different country so I rarely have many activities going on so it makes it THAT much harder. I occupy myself with guitar, music, lifting weights and reading (which is the most effective if you don’t wanna masturbate!!!) seriously I was a minute away from edging and I started reading and I forgot all about my boner!!!!

But today I plan on setting my plan into action! No masturbation for as long AS POSSIBLE. I feel like setting a date/days is exactly what I don’t need because I always divide it in half lol so I’m just gonna go for it free for all. I will keep you guys updated when I have internet.

Good luck to all

warrior September 16, 2012 at 12:14 pm

Day 200 and life is GOOD!
ED keep going i am sure you noticed by now that it just dont make sence to go back to old habbit anymore!
And Mattias you to,just take one day at a time and things will improve!
Good luck to everybody!

simon sez September 17, 2012 at 11:42 am

well, after many attempts of trying to stop masterbating. Im finally back to day 1, so far the longest I have gone was 9 days. Although, i probably consider myself somewhat of a porn addict, and being 22, i feel like a complete loser. Im gonna try to stick it out, and hopefully it will be the kick in the pants I need, to start living a new life, and not the same old masterbating/porn routine everymorning and night. Hope this will be worth it

JP2 September 17, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Doing a lot of PUA and inner game work lately and figured I’d give this a try. Decided to start last Monday and made it to sunday*. During those days I can honestly say there was an all aroun improvement in my life and my attractiveness to women. Whether if was just mental or not, I don’t really care.

Anyway, went to a bar Saturday night and pretty much got asked by a girl to take her home. I dont know if this is from no fapping or my self-improvement but this was too easy.

Definitely felt a difference on my ability to last, I’m usually a stallion but I did not last long at all. Definitely a drawback to
Consider but maybe I will just get used to this as I continue.

We had sex again in the morning and I came quickly again. I then fapped when I got home. I consider myself to be starting over again regardless, but where does that fap get categorized ?

Tiger Tony September 18, 2012 at 3:34 am

Almost 4 months no fapping. My sex life has turned around. I have sex at least once or twice a week. After 2 or 3 days the urge to have sex become very strong and before I would just fap and forget about it, but now I don’t think I need to fap, I think I need to get together with a girl and its way way way better. Its definetely more work and truly tiring at times! but also a lot more fun in every way.
Beyond the sex not faping just makes me more active, go out more, see more people, have more fun.
Faping took this out of my life making it boring and dull.

James Bond007 September 18, 2012 at 9:32 am

@Tiger Tony Did no fapping affect the size of your wood?

Tiger Tony September 19, 2012 at 2:47 am

@ James Bond007 – not that I noticed. However before I would FAP during reasonable hours, whereas I have sex now usually late in the evening or night that its the end of day and I am tired and maybe had a drink or 2 so I definetely notice that compared to fapping in the morning or after work my erection during the moddle of intercorse tends to be less “strong” than when I FAP. But also fapping takes me a few minutes, wereas sex I have to endure way longer so maybe that s why.

Tiger Tony September 19, 2012 at 7:54 am

JP2 > I used to fap also when I had regular sex, both after and before, all the time! And because of fapping I definetely would last longer, but come less.
So lately as I don’t FAP I really have to practice stamina not to come too quick. I don’t see any draw back anyway, infact sex is so much better with a strong desire and the orgasm its better for both.

Plus I am definetely more sexual and the girls I see appreciate that and the intense want for them even if maybe don’t want sex that day, which I did not have so much when I fapped.

Now they are the only way to release so I desire them intensely :)

Mattias September 20, 2012 at 12:05 pm

@ JP2… If you were a stallion before no-fap why go through this experiment? To bed more girls? I mean, if you’re a stallion and have a permanent girlfriend, what’s there to improve?

I notice when I’m falling back into the masturbation trap (after more than a week of abstincence) that at first I orgasm way too early, but then I successively start to last longer. I think it’s totally alright to have sex 3 times a week as long as there’s no fappage. I think our subconscious mind knows that masturbation is a wasteful act so it affects our self-esteem, whereas if you have sex your subconscious sees it as less of a selfish act (cos you please another person) and your instinct interprets the act as procreating (the natural goal of sex). Also, I think the smells and pheromones of a woman cause a benificial chemical reaction within the man.

Ed September 22, 2012 at 7:38 am

Day 83, hopefully when I hit 90 days I will loose count and continue in the same way. Feel amazing can’t stop checking out my muscles, I know I sound vain. Taking supps, my training is going insanely well. If I see a hot women in my vicinity I flirt and try to not force an outcome. This does not kill your sex drive, if anything it focuses and directs it. Nocturals take care of any blockages, and the release they give you is something else. I had a clear nocturnal about a women who works at the library, felt like I had a 5 minute orgasam it was that vivid and powerful. Funny thing she was kind of oldish and I chatted to her a week or two after, she wasn’t someone I initially had the hots for either.

RyanS September 25, 2012 at 10:15 am

Great post. I realize it has been up for quite some time but I just now found it. Interestingly enough, I have been pursuing the same ejaculation hypothesis as you, except I never did any formal research. Just experimentation. And I agree entirely that I feel quite depleted when you ejaculate regularly. I have less motivation to do things besides video games, eat, smoke and masturbate. Holding the ol’ seed is a great way to increase your discipline. And I have noticed it is very beneficial in the spiritual realm too…I reach far deeper states of meditation if I have not ejaculated in a while as compared to when I ejaculate regularly.

All in all, I am very happy to see I am not alone in this hypothesis. Thanks for the post.

shawn September 25, 2012 at 2:57 pm

Hi guys. I found the your brain on porn site in july and since july 19th i’ve probably edged 5 times. Not to porn though. I found a new high which is girls shaking their ass on youtube. It’s stupid i know but i figure it’s not porn and im not materbating to compleation with porn anymore so i’ve made SOME improvement. Right? What messed me up was after 3 whole weeks of no porn , no naked girl pictures, not even semi naked girls on TV, i edged to girls on youtube i was talking about. I was upset about being lonely and never having a girl. Where i work, all you see are couples and beautiful girls. That frustrated me and i went home that night and edged. Ever since i edge maby every week or 2. Which adddd to 5 since july i mentioned. But today while i was out i saw this very pretty young girl. She walked by me and she had the most beautiful eyes, lips and face. Her body was amazing too. So after i saw her i got frustrated again that i’ve never had girl like that. Im a 28YO virgin. So about 2 hours ago i edged to porn. It was a girl giving a blow job. Some semen came out too. I felt like shit afterwards but im feeling better now. I didn’t release all the semen i have built up me though. So thats good. Everytime i edged only a small amount of semen came out. So i think i still have a lot in me. But still, i shouldn’t be doing this anyway. I hope to pass the 3 weeks of no semen release that i left off at. But first i do plan on seeing an escort.

shawn September 25, 2012 at 3:09 pm

This is the first time i looked at porn fully since july. I know i progressed though because before finding the your brain on porn site i use to masterbate to porn 3 times a day or more. Now it’s so easy not to watch porn.

I feel better not watching it and releasing semen too. More energy and full of life. Im more motivated to look at girls and TRY to talk to them. I don’t know how to approach girls so talking never happens. I freeze up.

I hope i can stop edging.

Ed September 26, 2012 at 3:45 am

Day 87 and have also been practising some innergame meditation. Have edged just once, in that time. Deadlifted 147.5 kg 4 x 5, and am hitting some new pbs in the gym.

Ed September 29, 2012 at 9:47 pm

Made it to Day 90, feel great.

Rasko Eel September 30, 2012 at 5:25 am

It just seems that I can’t get to day 7 without having at least one nocturnal emission. I know they don’t count, so in fact I did make it past day 7. However, it doens’t feel like a complete abstinence. I really need to find a way to stop them if that is even possible.

Sadly, a few days ago I relapsed after abstaining for like 3 weeks (from pictures, not porn). And now I fully know I won’t go back to it again. It just wasn’t that exciting anymore. Abstaining gives me more self esteem and a more relaxed attitude when i’m with girls. Seeing the benefits of that, I think I will never go back to masturbation.

@Ed! Respect for the 90 days, man!! Keep it up!!

Ed October 1, 2012 at 1:55 am

Made it to Day 91 and lapsed. If I can resist in the next day or two I should be able to reboot. Next few days can test the willpower a bit.

Ed October 5, 2012 at 4:40 am

Fours days in and starting to get that good feeling again. The first day or so after lapsing I kind of felt like a train hit me. Maybe it was from being tired, I don’t know. Pretty satisfied with making it that long if I can do that consistantly, I will be fairly happy as it gives you a lot of useful engergy.

warrior October 6, 2012 at 2:33 am

@ED well done mate!I am curious though,what made you slip?Whatever it was learn from it and it will make you stronger.

Mattias October 6, 2012 at 7:27 am

@Ed, You lasted longer than most. You deserve a medal, man. After mere week of abstinence I went to a bar yesterday. Thanks to my new diet I feel much lighter and have no back pains. Anyway, as always when I get drunk this obnoxious but charming personality comes out, and a girl spontaneously gave me her number. The problem is that although my self-confidence was sky-high I felt zero attraction and actually I’ve been pretty asexual the last few days (in contrast to last week). Maybe sex has just become less important to me. Should I worry?

Ed October 6, 2012 at 9:44 am

It is not porn that made me slip, I have a fantasy of seeing a Domme and read stories on that sort of stuff, like Femdom. Straight porn does very little for me.

warrior October 6, 2012 at 11:37 am

Hmmm..Today is 220 clean days as i call them for me.
I have to admit that i had some thoughts about fapping for the old times sake..memories.

Mattias October 6, 2012 at 11:46 am

@warrior, way to go! 220 days is unreal. Any significant improvements in your life due to abstaining? I’m impressed by your perseverance but not inspired by it unless I hear about some AMAZING changes. My goal is not to do an abstaining marathon for the sake of proving something — I seek to re-sensitize myself to get aroused by little stimulation. It’s nice if you attract women and if you do, get some effing action! As for me, I’m monogamous and only need one woman, and she’d better put out when I’m inclined.

Ed October 6, 2012 at 7:56 pm

Amazing effort 220 days I am keen to hear some of the new distinctions and what s0rt of insights you have gained. It may inspire me to aim for that too. My most tangible gains have been in the gym, I find I can break through a plateau. The past 91 days saw a consistant improvement in the gym, especially doing squats, deadlifts, bench press, weighted dips and press ups.

warrior October 7, 2012 at 4:32 am

Well i should probably start at the point where i was when i first time read this post.
I was a mess.I mean literally every aspect of my life was fucked up.I did not have any friend,job,goals and what was most scary my health was fucked up to.
As i stated before i have been masturbating for atlest14 years regulary atleast once a day.So if i think about it now i am still not able to forgive myself that i wasted so many years of my life so much of my energy on something that gave me nothing but (pleasure)or atleast that was the only thing that gave me some kind of satisfaction.
So i took it from there and decided that i am gonna create new things that will give me satisfaction.
For now i must say that i am pretty pleased with results so far.It is pretty rewarding to respect yourself ,to wake up with plan and go to bed at night knowing that you made all that you posibly could to get closer to accomplish your long term goals.I have so much energy and drive that everybody who knows me are amazed by that.And ladys?I look at them like i own them,i mean its just funny to watch how hot girl with ok looking boyfriend cant get her eyes off me.Its aura,energy charisma you can call it however you want but the point remains the same.I never had it and last 3 month or so i am gaining it every day.ABout sex..i had sex 7 times in this period of time(once o month).I am practising dao techniques and hoping to master it.
And @ Mattias i was curious,where are you from?

ED October 7, 2012 at 8:58 am

Awesome stuff Warrior, you rock. I would say my approaches are top notche since doing this. Resisted the urge to have an escort tonight, even went to her motel room, and decided no. Was a test of willpower, it is just that I have this belief that I can do better and get something I really like. It is a strong feeling, I just can’t put my finger on it.

warrior October 7, 2012 at 12:34 pm

@ED you where smart enough to listen your inner voice thats good!Do it more often and you will develop a habbit to avoid doing things that dont Feel right to you.Things that will make you feel not so grat after you done them.

Tiger Tony October 7, 2012 at 1:33 pm

Crap I relapsed 2 weeks ago. I have been dating this girl that, for one reason or the other, kept me sexless for 2 weeks before leaving even thought we where seeing each other everyday and kissing and cuddling and all. She drove me nuts. After a week of this I had to fap since I was too insistent about going and getting laid I could feel I was driving her away and thats why she started witholding. I relapsed 3 times now even if I had sex with another girls.
This has resulted in me not going out so much this week and staying home watching tv and eating. Also reading which is the only good side.

I fapped like twice in a week just pretty much like I have been having sex but the difference in feeling it gives you after its opposite.

After sex I feel GREAT and happy and energetic.
After fapping I am like drained of life energy and I just calm down and slow down and so on.

Lets make this day one, again.

Mattias October 8, 2012 at 1:33 am

@ warrior, I’m a Swede who feels stuck in a rut and tired of my country. Been thinking about moving to USA for years and right now that it seems to be the only way out of this trap I’m in. Maybe I’m just trying to run from my problems.

warrior October 8, 2012 at 3:15 am

@ Mattias i feel your pain i live in shit hole called Estonia maybe you heard about it.
The winters are really depressing in this climate zone,we must get the fuck out of here!
You should get pissed at you current life and find motivation to change it by starting changing yourself!

Ed October 9, 2012 at 6:29 pm

I heard Estonia had a lot of hot women, must be very hard to do no fap in a place like that. I am on my 9th Day, edging slightly, started taking Zinc at bedtime, which I believe is supposed to be very beneficial for male health.

warrior October 10, 2012 at 1:44 am

@Ed what you heard is absolutely true!If you go to old town in the summer time where all the hot spots are it will be pretty difficult to man to think about anything else then sex.
But again you have a choice and if you will choose to fap every time you feel sexually aroused you will end up with dick in your hand jerking off on some kinky shit instead of working on your game!
I changed my sleeping routine about 30 days ago i wake up 5 a.m every day now.And it kind of helps to control thoughts and focus on stuff that is important to me.There is no such thing as tomorrow all i have is now and i will act now!
Fuck..I feel so amazing today!!
@Ed stop that edging shit!I am sure you got something that needs your attention more than craving on fantasies!
And @Mattias you need to decide what is that you really want?Its your fucking life so decide if you want to have control over it or are you comfortable with doing stuff according to the mood that you have..
Have a great day everybody !

comeback October 10, 2012 at 7:05 am

An interesting quote in this article caught my eye . If you followed 80s music, you have probably heard a song “Jesse’s girl”. It’s interesting how Rick Springfield says that sexual angst motivated him to write that song. If it was me , I would have just gone home and fapped.

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/rick-springfield-eternal-search-jessie-girl-160848224.html

Ed October 13, 2012 at 7:58 am

He must have been very horny when he wrote that song. Man’s motivation for many things.

campus October 15, 2012 at 3:48 pm

i want to stop really bad because the advantages u get once u stop wanking are innumerable. i’ve been trying but it’s really hard . i fall every 4 days , and i want to stop for good. any tips for making things easier? for stopping the urge to do so?

comeback October 15, 2012 at 6:22 pm

It’s all in the head and success is gradual, not overnight. Once you accept that, things will be a lot easier. As an example, I started abstaining from last year. Initially, I could barely go 2-3 days, then I improved to a week, then 10 days …3 weeks and so on. I still haven’t reached my goal which is zero masturbation, but I have seen major improvement. So just hang in there and dont give up, it will get better.

Remember, there is no long term goal in life which is successful at the first attempt. There will always be setbacks on the way to success and instead of fighting them, accept and learn from them to improve next time.

e.g. I used to get emotional and tend to relapse on days 3-4 or 7-8. Usually it used to be the same fantasy about a girl I am really infatuated with. So I started being extra cautious when I got closer to those days and I avoided thinking about her.

Last but not the least, one thing that really helps me relax and calm down is that I gently fondle my balls when I am in bed. Note – this is not edging. I do not stroke till I am erect, this is just gentle touch like you are petting a dog.

Ed October 16, 2012 at 6:55 am

Day 15, starting to get that drive back. I think 3-4 days is when you get that test boost. That for some guys seems to be the toughest time when you really have to harness your willpower.

campus October 16, 2012 at 11:05 pm

, i have read through this article that lots of people stop fapping and they get benefits such as being more productive, more positive, being luckier at girls, etc. and the more the time goes by, the better. so it’s kinda like a magic spell that we get. i cant wait to see a month or two happen without fapping. all these comments have kept me pretty motivated. i am really bad at girls, i’m kinda depressed, and whenever somebody lists negative things that happen when fapping, i feel identified. but when i see positive results after abstination, i cant help smiling and picturing myself having success with girls, and having all those positive changes. i started at 14 and now i’m 20. i thought i was depressed because of any reason, any but wanking. now i’ve realised it all starts from wanking. i wish i could fast forward the days after 3 months.all what some of u guys write makes me so happy. now , i have a question , : i know that , because of the fact that most people think of nothing but sex after stopping, its really probable to have a wet dream. i stopped 9 days lots of time ago and couldnt help having a wet dream. do we break the discipline or the abstinence when having wet dreams