Comments on: Lack of Male Role Models and the Rise of Pick-up Artists http://themodernsavage.com/2007/02/02/did-the-lack-of-male-role-models-give-rise-to-pick-up-artists/ the seductive life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:50:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DoesNotMatter http://themodernsavage.com/2007/02/02/did-the-lack-of-male-role-models-give-rise-to-pick-up-artists/#comment-12972 DoesNotMatter Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:26:55 +0000 http://themodernsavage.com/?p=45#comment-12972 Almost all Indian Kids in the United states grew up in families with both mum and dad (divorce being extremely rare in India) and they still suck when it comes to meeting women. You could have a dad while growing up but if he was 1. a mangina OR 2. a prude OR 3. A workaholic OR 4. A beta OR 5. clueless about meeting women himself you would still suck with women. Nuff said Almost all Indian Kids in the United states grew up in families with both mum and dad (divorce being extremely rare in India) and they still suck when it comes to meeting women. You could have a dad while growing up but if he was
1. a mangina OR
2. a prude OR
3. A workaholic OR
4. A beta OR
5. clueless about meeting women himself

you would still suck with women. Nuff said

]]> By: Joey http://themodernsavage.com/2007/02/02/did-the-lack-of-male-role-models-give-rise-to-pick-up-artists/#comment-10920 Joey Sat, 02 Jul 2011 05:08:25 +0000 http://themodernsavage.com/?p=45#comment-10920 Ross Jeffries (who is arguably the master and founder of the seduction community) has mentioned on his flagship set of cds done from a seminar of his in London that him, and other men did not have another man around to teach them about women while growing up. Ross said his Dad was a great man but, he was never around because he worked 3 jobs to feed Ross, his Mother, his 5 other siblings, and a cousin named Patty who lived with them for 7 years. Ross's dad had to be a strong man to handle all of that responsibility. That's pretty mind blowing that the guru of the whole game started out without any guidance when it comes to women. I definitely can relate, my Father never really taught me anything about women, or gave me guidance and coaching in what to do growing up. All he did was think about his own interests, and brag about his conquests. It depends on how you look at it all but, the need to mass fornicate could be a sign of emptiness. I think Rabbi Ariel Bar Zadok of KosherTorah.com has got it nailed by basically saying in his "Protection From Evil" book that sex is an exchange of energy, and the more people you sleep with the more bad energy you bring around you, and this inhibits finding your soul mate. He also explains soul mates in his book, and it's not the cheesy, gooey, Hollwood BS. It's about finding a partner you love through the good and bad times. My own personal goal with the whole game is be a better communicator (because communicating about psycho-babble as my youthful detractors growing up wouldv'e said was totally unacceptable-which is so damn ignorant for anyone to shun understanding both themselves and others) who knows how to captivate a woman's mind so I can have the best possible relationship with whoever I find that's truly worthy of my life and love. There are so many messed up people out here today (myself included). The whole system sucks, and smart people have to find ways to get around society's traps. Ross Jeffries (who is arguably the master and founder of the seduction community) has mentioned on his flagship set of cds done from a seminar of his in London that him, and other men did not have another man around to teach them about women while growing up. Ross said his Dad was a great man but, he was never around because he worked 3 jobs to feed Ross, his Mother, his 5 other siblings, and a cousin named Patty who lived with them for 7 years. Ross’s dad had to be a strong man to handle all of that responsibility. That’s pretty mind blowing that the guru of the whole game started out without any guidance when it comes to women.

I definitely can relate, my Father never really taught me anything about women, or gave me guidance and coaching in what to do growing up. All he did was think about his own interests, and brag about his conquests.

It depends on how you look at it all but, the need to mass fornicate could be a sign of emptiness. I think Rabbi Ariel Bar Zadok of KosherTorah.com has got it nailed by basically saying in his “Protection From Evil” book that sex is an exchange of energy, and the more people you sleep with the more bad energy you bring around you, and this inhibits finding your soul mate. He also explains soul mates in his book, and it’s not the cheesy, gooey, Hollwood BS. It’s about finding a partner you love through the good and bad times.

My own personal goal with the whole game is be a better communicator (because communicating about psycho-babble as my youthful detractors growing up wouldv’e said was totally unacceptable-which is so damn ignorant for anyone to shun understanding both themselves and others) who knows how to captivate a woman’s mind so I can have the best possible relationship with whoever I find that’s truly worthy of my life and love. There are so many messed up people out here today (myself included). The whole system sucks, and smart people have to find ways to get around society’s traps.

]]> By: know1 http://themodernsavage.com/2007/02/02/did-the-lack-of-male-role-models-give-rise-to-pick-up-artists/#comment-7814 know1 Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:31:22 +0000 http://themodernsavage.com/?p=45#comment-7814 I actually had a father that was always physically present. But he failed to give me the mentoring as a father that I needed. I now know that he couldn't teach me what he did not know. I discovered the PUA community after my divorce. I have always had trouble talking to women in a intimate way. I now know better. I actually had a father that was always physically present. But he failed to give me the mentoring as a father that I needed. I now know that he couldn’t teach me what he did not know.

I discovered the PUA community after my divorce. I have always had trouble talking to women in a intimate way. I now know better.

]]> By: hottie Mchottson http://themodernsavage.com/2007/02/02/did-the-lack-of-male-role-models-give-rise-to-pick-up-artists/#comment-7702 hottie Mchottson Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:36:44 +0000 http://themodernsavage.com/?p=45#comment-7702 I'm going to have to agree with this post though from a slightly different perspective. My parents are together still today and my dad was always very involved in my life growing up. He was, however, very passive whereas my mother was very dominant which led to lots of nice guy behavior for approval seeking. He also gave me plenty of birds and bees speeches but always from a very clinical viewpoint and never included anything about how to get a woman to the point where that information would be useful. I have three boys of my own, the oldest is 11 so he is getting a much broader education. :) I’m going to have to agree with this post though from a slightly different perspective. My parents are together still today and my dad was always very involved in my life growing up. He was, however, very passive whereas my mother was very dominant which led to lots of nice guy behavior for approval seeking. He also gave me plenty of birds and bees speeches but always from a very clinical viewpoint and never included anything about how to get a woman to the point where that information would be useful. I have three boys of my own, the oldest is 11 so he is getting a much broader education. :)

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